J. Roughead free agent
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J. Roughead free agent
Heard Saints are taking a look. Be crazy not to.
Ex-premiership Dog that is currently out of flavour at the kennel. Only 27 and fits something we might need. A couple of clubs are circling atm as he hasn't resigned. He started as ruck in the '16 flag so he couldn't be too bad.
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
I think Preuss from North would be a better choice.
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
Please explain?
I do not see why he would be an upgrade on what we already have.
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
If we want him to improve our forward line- no thanks ( Bruce, Battle, Membrey is a good combo going forward imo)
If we want him for his Hawthorn ip- no thanks ( Get Sam Mitchell or Brett Ratten )
If we want him for his Hawthorn ip- no thanks ( Get Sam Mitchell or Brett Ratten )
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
No need for a tall GOP who fills in instead of Marshall/Austin. Not going to be best 22 in our next finals side
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
Can I ask where you heard the club are "taking a look"?parkeysainter wrote: ↑Thu 12 Jul 2018 11:49pm Heard Saints are taking a look. Be crazy not to.
Ex-premiership Dog that is currently out of flavour at the kennel. Only 27 and fits something we might need. A couple of clubs are circling atm as he hasn't resigned. He started as ruck in the '16 flag so he couldn't be too bad.
I haven't seen any media reporting our interest and I'm curious as to why the club would be interested in a high risk, high value proposition.
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
Ummm ... the OP is referring to the Dogs' Roughead; not the Dawks' one.
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
A bit of click bait.
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
Yes, that is correct thank you.
The "Dogs" Roughead can play ruck and key back.
Is he a better ruckman than Billy and Hickey? Probably yes. He is quite versatile and can take a good grab. I think our list is in need of some decent over 25 players. We are too young. If we delist Pearce, we need another ruck anyway. He is worth a look and I've been told we are looking. He started as ruck in the GF side for example. He's a very good player.
Someone mentioned Preust from Nth Melb too. We should throw some big $ at him as he can bloody ruck and is a massive unit. Goldstein has been ahead of him this year which is understandable and why he hasn't been seen alot.
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
Asked this earlier PS but asking again,parkeysainter wrote: ↑Fri 13 Jul 2018 11:49amYes, that is correct thank you.
The "Dogs" Roughead can play ruck and key back.
Is he a better ruckman than Billy and Hickey? Probably yes. He is quite versatile and can take a good grab. I think our list is in need of some decent over 25 players. We are too young. If we delist Pearce, we need another ruck anyway. He is worth a look and I've been told we are looking. He started as ruck in the GF side for example. He's a very good player.
Someone mentioned Preust from Nth Melb too. We should throw some big $ at him as he can bloody ruck and is a massive unit. Goldstein has been ahead of him this year which is understandable and why he hasn't been seen alot.
Can I ask where you heard the club are "taking a look"?
I haven't seen any media reporting our interest and I'm curious as to why the club would be interested in a high risk, high value proposition.
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
Don't be surprised if it pops up in the media before season's end. Just heard this one on the grapevine Cairnsman.Cairnsman wrote: ↑Fri 13 Jul 2018 11:57amAsked this earlier PS but asking again,parkeysainter wrote: ↑Fri 13 Jul 2018 11:49amYes, that is correct thank you.
The "Dogs" Roughead can play ruck and key back.
Is he a better ruckman than Billy and Hickey? Probably yes. He is quite versatile and can take a good grab. I think our list is in need of some decent over 25 players. We are too young. If we delist Pearce, we need another ruck anyway. He is worth a look and I've been told we are looking. He started as ruck in the GF side for example. He's a very good player.
Someone mentioned Preust from Nth Melb too. We should throw some big $ at him as he can bloody ruck and is a massive unit. Goldstein has been ahead of him this year which is understandable and why he hasn't been seen alot.
Can I ask where you heard the club are "taking a look"?
I haven't seen any media reporting our interest and I'm curious as to why the club would be interested in a high risk, high value proposition.
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
That's not a bad guess and would be mine, or any other club that can afford to take the risk.
Richo and others at the club are on the record as saying we need some high end talent so the bloodletting brigade would be well within thier rights to feel confused if the club recruited an average ruckman at a time when ruck stocks are not the priority.
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
But perhaps maybe our rucks are a main issue. Roughead is a good player and not average at all.Cairnsman wrote: ↑Fri 13 Jul 2018 12:14pmThat's not a bad guess and would be mine, or any other club that can afford to take the risk.
Richo and others at the club are on the record as saying we need some high end talent so the bloodletting brigade would be well within thier rights to feel confused if the club recruited an average ruckman at a time when ruck stocks are not the priority.
I do think Preust is someone we should target though. Not sure if the Saints are interested or he is gettable though.
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Is Roughhead one of the Dogs premiership players that was an average player before and after the flag but, just like the team had a purple patch and may be a one hit wonder. More questions than answers and why he could be a speculative investment and why I agree clubs like the Swans or maybe GWS could take the risk.parkeysainter wrote: ↑Fri 13 Jul 2018 12:31pmBut perhaps maybe our rucks are a main issue. Roughead is a good player and not average at all.Cairnsman wrote: ↑Fri 13 Jul 2018 12:14pmThat's not a bad guess and would be mine, or any other club that can afford to take the risk.
Richo and others at the club are on the record as saying we need some high end talent so the bloodletting brigade would be well within thier rights to feel confused if the club recruited an average ruckman at a time when ruck stocks are not the priority.
I do think Preust is someone we should target though. Not sure if the Saints are interested or he is gettable though.
Could our club afford to take the risk of bringing in a project player for a positon that is not necessarily our greatest need. I'm aware of the perpetual ruck debate on this site but that's more about 'slap and tickle' as most of the key contributors to that debate might even conscede that ruck recruits are lower down on the priorty to the higher need for high end talent...Roughead is not high end talent.
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
Agree with your post mostly but we need age over 25 expierence on our list. Desperately. Yes, Roughead is not high end talent but still a good player that can play FB, CHB and Ruck.Cairnsman wrote: ↑Fri 13 Jul 2018 12:45pmIs Roughhead one of the Dogs premiership players that was an average player before and after the flag but, just like the team had a purple patch and may be a one hit wonder. More questions than answers and why he could be a speculative investment and why I suggest clubs like the Swans or maybe GWS could take the risk.parkeysainter wrote: ↑Fri 13 Jul 2018 12:31pmBut perhaps maybe our rucks are a main issue. Roughead is a good player and not average at all.Cairnsman wrote: ↑Fri 13 Jul 2018 12:14pmThat's not a bad guess and would be mine, or any other club that can afford to take the risk.
Richo and others at the club are on the record as saying we need some high end talent so the bloodletting brigade would be well within thier rights to feel confused if the club recruited an average ruckman at a time when ruck stocks are not the priority.
I do think Preust is someone we should target though. Not sure if the Saints are interested or he is gettable though.
Could our club afford to take the risk of bringing in a project player for a positon that is not necessarily our greatest need. I'm aware of the perpetual ruck debate on this site but that's more about 'slap and tickle' as most of the key contributors to that debate might even conscede that ruck recruits are lower down on the priorty to the higher need for high end talent...Roughead is not high end talent.
Same as a Dalhouse and Polec, they are not high end but would add good expierence and are the kind of players we need.
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
Roughead's record against Hickey and Longer (when playing ruck)parkeysainter wrote: ↑Fri 13 Jul 2018 11:49am The "Dogs" Roughead can play ruck and key back.
Is he a better ruckman than Billy and Hickey? Probably yes. He is quite versatile and can take a good grab. I think our list is in need of some decent over 25 players.
Round 10, 2017
Roughead 14 disposals, 2 marks, 17 hitouts
Longer 18 disposals, 4 marks, 55 hitouts
Round 2, 2016
Roughead 10 disposals, 3 marks, 26 hitouts
Hickey 9 disposals, 1 mark, 22 hitouts
Round 18, 2016
Roughead 16 disposals, 7 marks, 15 hitouts
Hickey 18 disposals, 6 marks, 34 hitouts
Round 13, 2015
Roughead 10 disposals, 8 marks, 14 hitouts
Longer 11 disposals, 2 marks, 30 hitouts
What's the point? Hickey and Longer are both over 25 and are both at least as good as Roughead
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Except for the rare freaks that debut and put in high end peformances for the remainder of thier career, I would say the high end talent we need is probably going to be around the 25yo mark anyway.parkeysainter wrote: ↑Fri 13 Jul 2018 12:55pmAgree with your post mostly but we need age over 25 expierence on our list. Desperately. Yes, Roughead is not high end talent but still a good player that can play FB, CHB and Ruck.Cairnsman wrote: ↑Fri 13 Jul 2018 12:45pmIs Roughhead one of the Dogs premiership players that was an average player before and after the flag but, just like the team had a purple patch and may be a one hit wonder. More questions than answers and why he could be a speculative investment and why I suggest clubs like the Swans or maybe GWS could take the risk.parkeysainter wrote: ↑Fri 13 Jul 2018 12:31pmBut perhaps maybe our rucks are a main issue. Roughead is a good player and not average at all.Cairnsman wrote: ↑Fri 13 Jul 2018 12:14pmThat's not a bad guess and would be mine, or any other club that can afford to take the risk.
Richo and others at the club are on the record as saying we need some high end talent so the bloodletting brigade would be well within thier rights to feel confused if the club recruited an average ruckman at a time when ruck stocks are not the priority.
I do think Preust is someone we should target though. Not sure if the Saints are interested or he is gettable though.
Could our club afford to take the risk of bringing in a project player for a positon that is not necessarily our greatest need. I'm aware of the perpetual ruck debate on this site but that's more about 'slap and tickle' as most of the key contributors to that debate might even conscede that ruck recruits are lower down on the priorty to the higher need for high end talent...Roughead is not high end talent.
Same as a Dalhouse and Polec, they are not high end but would add good expierence and are the kind of players we need.
If it is true that we have $2 million spare in our cap then IMO we should be targeting 2 to 3 players in the $500k to $700k price bracket as that salary bracket generally equals high end talent.
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He is 27 and has played 130 games.
A bit more than a project player.
Probably ripe for the picking to head to NSW if he wants to go north.
A bit more than a project player.
Probably ripe for the picking to head to NSW if he wants to go north.
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
We will jag a couple of players, who they are at this stage is anyone's guess.
I would be looking closer to home.
Sandringham for example.
I would be looking closer to home.
Sandringham for example.
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
Good call Saynta. I think Seccull and Lamb from Sandy are worth a look. Plus the teenage kid that plays ruck and forward whose name I can't remember right now.
Sometimes these mature age recruits are good for a couple of years or look the potential goods then they go completely missing. E.g Saad, Lee, Milera. It can be a bit of risk.
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Re: J. Roughead free agent
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