Fortius Quo Fidelius Strength through Loyalty
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 50
- Joined: Tue 28 Mar 2017 1:21pm
- Been thanked: 25 times
Fortius Quo Fidelius Strength through Loyalty
As a 3rd year member I can sense if not yet feel the deep pain that life long Saints supporters are currently feeling.
As an aging kiwi I have followed the All Blacks all my life and I believe that our club could learn from their experience. Despite dominating between world cups we kept choking in the important games and it was after the 2007 World Cup that our coaching team made a significant change to their approach. They started to actively involve players in the game plan and other decisions that affected them. As a result players rediscovered their love of rugby and the joy of playing rather than being weighed down by the fear of losing. As a result their skills became more instinctive, their game plan more intuitive, resulting in back to back World Cups.
Despite our horrendous form I admire the effort and fight within our team but we seem incapable of executing basic skills under pressure. It appears to me that our players are scared to make a mistake and as a result their minds are scrambled meaning they are unable to fully focus on the skill they are executing.
I have not given up on Richo but feel he needs to make changes to his coaching style before it is too late. I would like to see a simpler, more intuitive game plan that frees the players minds and helps them execute their skills when it is most needed. An AFL example of this type of coaching transformation is Damian Hardwick.
I commit to the clubs motto of strength through loyalty by promising to renew my Saints membership for the rest of my life. I believe it is now more than ever that our club needs the support and loyalty of its members.
As an aging kiwi I have followed the All Blacks all my life and I believe that our club could learn from their experience. Despite dominating between world cups we kept choking in the important games and it was after the 2007 World Cup that our coaching team made a significant change to their approach. They started to actively involve players in the game plan and other decisions that affected them. As a result players rediscovered their love of rugby and the joy of playing rather than being weighed down by the fear of losing. As a result their skills became more instinctive, their game plan more intuitive, resulting in back to back World Cups.
Despite our horrendous form I admire the effort and fight within our team but we seem incapable of executing basic skills under pressure. It appears to me that our players are scared to make a mistake and as a result their minds are scrambled meaning they are unable to fully focus on the skill they are executing.
I have not given up on Richo but feel he needs to make changes to his coaching style before it is too late. I would like to see a simpler, more intuitive game plan that frees the players minds and helps them execute their skills when it is most needed. An AFL example of this type of coaching transformation is Damian Hardwick.
I commit to the clubs motto of strength through loyalty by promising to renew my Saints membership for the rest of my life. I believe it is now more than ever that our club needs the support and loyalty of its members.
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3950
- Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2015 3:12pm
- Has thanked: 372 times
- Been thanked: 214 times
Re: Fortius Quo Fidelius Strength through Loyalty
Good on ya mate, very well said, nice to have a genuinely loyal supporter on board, not enough of your type on this forum, that's for sure!!!!!The Rhyming Saints wrote:As a 3rd year member I can sense if not yet feel the deep pain that life long Saints supporters are currently feeling.
As an aging kiwi I have followed the All Blacks all my life and I believe that our club could learn from their experience. Despite dominating between world cups we kept choking in the important games and it was after the 2007 World Cup that our coaching team made a significant change to their approach. They started to actively involve players in the game plan and other decisions that affected them. As a result players rediscovered their love of rugby and the joy of playing rather than being weighed down by the fear of losing. As a result their skills became more instinctive, their game plan more intuitive, resulting in back to back World Cups.
Despite our horrendous form I admire the effort and fight within our team but we seem incapable of executing basic skills under pressure. It appears to me that our players are scared to make a mistake and as a result their minds are scrambled meaning they are unable to fully focus on the skill they are executing.
I have not given up on Richo but feel he needs to make changes to his coaching style before it is too late. I would like to see a simpler, more intuitive game plan that frees the players minds and helps them execute their skills when it is most needed. An AFL example of this type of coaching transformation is Damian Hardwick.
I commit to the clubs motto of strength through loyalty by promising to renew my Saints membership for the rest of my life. I believe it is now more than ever that our club needs the support and loyalty of its members.
Go well and enjoy being a True Sainter!!!!!
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
The 'Last Post', it's the gift that keeps giving![📯](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f4ef.svg)
![📯](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f4ef.svg)
![📯](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f4ef.svg)
![📯](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f4ef.svg)
![📯](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f4ef.svg)
We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
The 'Last Post', it's the gift that keeps giving
- parkeysainter
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 2696
- Joined: Thu 20 Jul 2017 2:59am
- Location: Brighton Beach Mansion
- Has thanked: 84 times
- Been thanked: 177 times
Re: Fortius Quo Fidelius Strength through Loyalty
One of the best posts I have ever seen on here.
Common sense, hope and sound arguments all rolled into one for the OP. You are a true Sainter mate.
Common sense, hope and sound arguments all rolled into one for the OP. You are a true Sainter mate.
Try to be a rainbow in someone's cloud
In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death, taxes and the St Kilda FC
In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death, taxes and the St Kilda FC
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4891
- Joined: Tue 13 Jun 2017 1:16pm
- Has thanked: 1410 times
- Been thanked: 1426 times
Re: Fortius Quo Fidelius Strength through Loyalty
I'm in it for the long haul, of course. Richo, are you capable of positive/pleasing change ?
Re: Fortius Quo Fidelius Strength through Loyalty
I agree with the motto and the op.
Everyday I go for a walk wearing my Saints cap.
Cop the usual crap comments, you're game wearing that, can't you find a decent team to follow, etc. etc.
Makes me more determined to wear it,
Stuff them.
Everyday I go for a walk wearing my Saints cap.
Cop the usual crap comments, you're game wearing that, can't you find a decent team to follow, etc. etc.
Makes me more determined to wear it,
Stuff them.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 493
- Joined: Sat 10 Jun 2017 2:01pm
- Has thanked: 35 times
- Been thanked: 41 times
Re: Fortius Quo Fidelius Strength through Loyalty
The problem is the loyalty is one sided.
We were told the club was going to do something. They did not.
They didn't come to us and say, hey, we stuffed up, sorry. Nope.
Actually rewarded one of the problems ( extending AR contract).
Then extend their loyal promises to bring the club a flag out another several years.
The club continues to treat the loyal Saints like fools. Absolute fools who can't see the disarray, debt, failures and collapse of an entire football club.
The media, commentators and game analysts all say we have failed miserably and gone backwards at an alarming pace.
.
But the club continues to lie to us and promise what they dont possess.
That's loyalty.
We were told the club was going to do something. They did not.
They didn't come to us and say, hey, we stuffed up, sorry. Nope.
Actually rewarded one of the problems ( extending AR contract).
Then extend their loyal promises to bring the club a flag out another several years.
The club continues to treat the loyal Saints like fools. Absolute fools who can't see the disarray, debt, failures and collapse of an entire football club.
The media, commentators and game analysts all say we have failed miserably and gone backwards at an alarming pace.
.
But the club continues to lie to us and promise what they dont possess.
That's loyalty.
- The Fireman
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 13239
- Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:54pm
- Has thanked: 643 times
- Been thanked: 1907 times
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6582
- Joined: Sat 11 Jun 2011 4:52pm
- Location: Here
- Has thanked: 1274 times
- Been thanked: 463 times
Re: Fortius Quo Fidelius Strength through Loyalty
Fortius Quo Fideliusshrodes wrote:Can you sum this up with a rhyme please?
The Rhyming Saints tells us
Follow the Damian Hardwick and All Blacks precedent
Make our players and club more confident
Strength through loyalty, come one Saintas
As ex-president Peter Summers said:
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
Re: Fortius Quo Fidelius Strength through Loyalty
This clown works for Richo. Heard it all before. Some solutions would help instead of budget rhetoric
"For when I am powerless, then I am strong."
- parkeysainter
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 2696
- Joined: Thu 20 Jul 2017 2:59am
- Location: Brighton Beach Mansion
- Has thanked: 84 times
- Been thanked: 177 times
Re: Fortius Quo Fidelius Strength through Loyalty
Good work mate. Another real and true Sainter. Its a roller coaster ride but its a fun one nonetheless.Skinny wrote:I agree with the motto and the op.
Everyday I go for a walk wearing my Saints cap.
Cop the usual crap comments, you're game wearing that, can't you find a decent team to follow, etc. etc.
Makes me more determined to wear it,
Stuff them.
Try to be a rainbow in someone's cloud
In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death, taxes and the St Kilda FC
In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death, taxes and the St Kilda FC
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3950
- Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2015 3:12pm
- Has thanked: 372 times
- Been thanked: 214 times
Re: Fortius Quo Fidelius Strength through Loyalty
St. Paul wrote:This clown works for Richo. Heard it all before. Some solutions would help instead of budget rhetoric
Whatever Drakeo!!!!!
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
The 'Last Post', it's the gift that keeps giving![📯](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f4ef.svg)
![📯](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f4ef.svg)
![📯](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f4ef.svg)
![📯](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f4ef.svg)
![📯](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f4ef.svg)
We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!
The 'Last Post', it's the gift that keeps giving
- SydneySainter
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2416
- Joined: Sat 26 May 2007 6:59pm
- Has thanked: 54 times
- Been thanked: 153 times
Re: Fortius Quo Fidelius Strength through Loyalty
Exactly!David-Lee wrote:The problem is the loyalty is one sided.
We were told the club was going to do something. They did not.
They didn't come to us and say, hey, we stuffed up, sorry. Nope.
Actually rewarded one of the problems ( extending AR contract).
Then extend their loyal promises to bring the club a flag out another several years.
The club continues to treat the loyal Saints like fools. Absolute fools who can't see the disarray, debt, failures and collapse of an entire football club.
The media, commentators and game analysts all say we have failed miserably and gone backwards at an alarming pace.
.
But the club continues to lie to us and promise what they dont possess.
That's loyalty.
While we’re all and will all be passionate Saints supporters, if the club is quick to beat its chest and promise greatness but only delivers a lemon, then we have every right to be critical.
You don’t have to look too deep to see the cracks at the club’s administration - the debt, the mediocre recruiting, contractually handcuffing themselves to a struggling coach, our crappy draft position despite a likely bottom four finish, the superstar FA that’s yet to arrive and of course, the so called grand plan for the club to be contending right about now. The club has been talking a lot of talk, but still yet to do any walking, but when us (and the entire footy community) calls them on it, we just hear that the plan is still sound and that it’s only a flesh wound.
I’m sick of the bulls**t hypocrisy that unless we support our club through rose-tinted glass that we’re automatically a “bad” supporter. If I tell my boss that they’re running a shabby operation, does it by default make me a “bad” employee? Or, if I say that I think the prime minister is a clown, does it make me a “bad” Australian?
That attitude that being a club supporter requires unconditional optimism is absolute BS.
Last edited by SydneySainter on Fri 04 May 2018 11:08am, edited 1 time in total.
Bad management is bad management
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 9367
- Joined: Wed 03 Aug 2005 10:01pm
- Has thanked: 655 times
- Been thanked: 498 times
Re: Fortius Quo Fidelius Strength through Loyalty
Constructive criticism definitely has its place. But some of the stuff being posted goes WAY beyond that. Me? I’m with the sentiments expressed so eloquently in the OP! ( by the way , the Saints WILL win this week!)
St Kilda forever ![🔴](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f534.svg)
![⚪️](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/26aa.svg)
( God help me)
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 50
- Joined: Tue 28 Mar 2017 1:21pm
- Been thanked: 25 times
Re: Fortius Quo Fidelius Strength through Loyalty
A united club is how we Sainters win
A culture of success is built from within
If we stick together and be our best
We raise our club up above the rest
If our players know that we really care
Confidence will rise and they'll play with dare
Strength through unity is the Sainter way
I'll cheer for the Saints each time we play
And now I'm committed I am all in
I'll share a poem every game we win
A culture of success is built from within
If we stick together and be our best
We raise our club up above the rest
If our players know that we really care
Confidence will rise and they'll play with dare
Strength through unity is the Sainter way
I'll cheer for the Saints each time we play
And now I'm committed I am all in
I'll share a poem every game we win
- desertsaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10404
- Joined: Sun 27 Apr 2008 2:02pm
- Location: out there
- Has thanked: 186 times
- Been thanked: 701 times
Re: Fortius Quo Fidelius Strength through Loyalty
good. you'll have a lot of time to improve.The Rhyming Saints wrote:A united club is how we Sainters win
A culture of success is built from within
If we stick together and be our best
We raise our club up above the rest
If our players know that we really care
Confidence will rise and they'll play with dare
Strength through unity is the Sainter way
I'll cheer for the Saints each time we play
And now I'm committed I am all in
I'll share a poem every game we win
"The starting point of all achievement is desire. "
- asiu
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10313
- Joined: Thu 08 Apr 2010 8:11pm
- Has thanked: 1327 times
- Been thanked: 932 times
Re: Fortius Quo Fidelius Strength through Loyalty
lmao
cruel
cruel
![Image](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_iUpoNBZyaBc/R0zVk-1LCZI/AAAAAAAAAg0/9eeT7D6cnaA/s320/compass-blu-265x220.gif)
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
.tipara waranta kani nina-tu.