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Would anyone care
If one of our players were gay?
Do you think it would have an impact on the locker room at all?
Find it surprising that the league hasn't had any openly gay players as of it.
Do you think it would have an impact on the locker room at all?
Find it surprising that the league hasn't had any openly gay players as of it.
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Re: Would anyone care
It's 2017 so not at all. Players don't come out because some supporters don't know what year it is, plus players sex lives are none of our business anyway.
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Re: Would anyone care
Wouldn't give a stuff.
I'm sure the Saints have already had gay players in the past.
I'm sure the Saints have already had gay players in the past.
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Re: Would anyone care
What if someone came out as openly asexual?
They just said, "look everyone. I haven't had any action in five years and I simply don't care."
Would anyone care about that?
Just not sure why sexual preference or activity is a big part of a person's make-up. For many people it is nothing anyway.
They just said, "look everyone. I haven't had any action in five years and I simply don't care."
Would anyone care about that?
Just not sure why sexual preference or activity is a big part of a person's make-up. For many people it is nothing anyway.
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Re: Would anyone care
We do now and so does the league in general.Con Gorozidis wrote:Wouldn't give a stuff.
I'm sure the Saints have already had gay players in the past.
Why don't you think the players feel comfortable with coming out?
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Re: Would anyone care
I don't care.
Not a problem.
The AFL is a microcosm of society, and reflects this society,
so it's not just likely, but it's probable that a percentage of AFL players are gay.
I worked in the Dept of Defence several years ago, for a long time,
and when Defence took an initiative to recognize same-sex relationships,
there were 2 officers- both majors- who applied for co-habitation allowances etc
within about a week of the announcement.
I say the gay footy players will keep under the radar for the forseeable future
because although there's strong support in the public domain, these guys (indeed maybe AFLW ladies)
still may not be sure about coming out.
Not a problem.
The AFL is a microcosm of society, and reflects this society,
so it's not just likely, but it's probable that a percentage of AFL players are gay.
I worked in the Dept of Defence several years ago, for a long time,
and when Defence took an initiative to recognize same-sex relationships,
there were 2 officers- both majors- who applied for co-habitation allowances etc
within about a week of the announcement.
I say the gay footy players will keep under the radar for the forseeable future
because although there's strong support in the public domain, these guys (indeed maybe AFLW ladies)
still may not be sure about coming out.
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Re: Would anyone care
95% of the AFLW are openly gayWellardSaint wrote:I don't care.
Not a problem.
The AFL is a microcosm of society, and reflects this society,
so it's not just likely, but it's probable that a percentage of AFL players are gay.
I worked in the Dept of Defence several years ago, for a long time,
and when Defence took an initiative to recognize same-sex relationships,
there were 2 officers- both majors- who applied for co-habitation allowances etc
within about a week of the announcement.
I say the gay footy players will keep under the radar for the forseeable future
because although there's strong support in the public domain, these guys (indeed maybe AFLW ladies)
still may not be sure about coming out.
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Re: Would anyone care
I would only care if it was someone that I wanted to have sex with.
*Allegedly.
Bring back Lucky Burgers, and nobody gets hurt.
You can't un-fry things.
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Re: Would anyone care
What is a co-habitation allowance?WellardSaint wrote:I don't care.
Not a problem.
The AFL is a microcosm of society, and reflects this society,
so it's not just likely, but it's probable that a percentage of AFL players are gay.
I worked in the Dept of Defence several years ago, for a long time,
and when Defence took an initiative to recognize same-sex relationships,
there were 2 officers- both majors- who applied for co-habitation allowances etc
within about a week of the announcement.
I say the gay footy players will keep under the radar for the forseeable future
because although there's strong support in the public domain, these guys (indeed maybe AFLW ladies)
still may not be sure about coming out.
Genuine question.
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Re: Would anyone care
<edited by mods> was a gay AFL footballer.
<even if he is gay, he has not stated so publicly and this forum has no right to continue the publication of this post>
<even if he is gay, he has not stated so publicly and this forum has no right to continue the publication of this post>
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Re: Would anyone care
Good question. I'm not sure of the answer.The_President wrote:We do now and so does the league in general.Con Gorozidis wrote:Wouldn't give a stuff.
I'm sure the Saints have already had gay players in the past.
Why don't you think the players feel comfortable with coming out?
Some insights here maybe
http://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-lif ... 9952647cc1
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I am speculating here. I think being the first openly gay player carries with it quite a lot of pressure and media attention. Most players wouldn't care for the amount of attention they would get. That's just off the field. Then you throw in the idiots over the fence yelling garbage at them, at least short term.Con Gorozidis wrote:Good question. I'm not sure of the answer.The_President wrote:We do now and so does the league in general.Con Gorozidis wrote:Wouldn't give a stuff.
I'm sure the Saints have already had gay players in the past.
Why don't you think the players feel comfortable with coming out?
There is some positive impact to having openly gay sports stars - sadly it is still stigmatised, and the more common it becomes, the less of a news story it is, and no one will worry about what is a normal occurrence. But would be pretty hard work for that first lad. I think if a small number, even one player, came out as gay that a number would follow with less on their shoulders to worry about.
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Nah, I don't think anyone cares. And if they do, no one needs folks like that! But, I think what's stopping someone is that thought of being 'The first openly gay player'... No longer defined simply by your footy career but your sexuality ... plus you'd have the parasitic footy media lobbing up at your door step trying to write a story about how people need to just let you live your life... so let us write a double page spread on it. But who knows... when one player finally does, 10 other players might stick their hand up too the next day.
Think of it this way... no one gave a flying F&$K what so ever about Ian Thorpe coming out and he's one of Australia's greatest ever Olympians.
Think of it this way... no one gave a flying F&$K what so ever about Ian Thorpe coming out and he's one of Australia's greatest ever Olympians.
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Re: Would anyone care
I wouldn't care. As long as they don't make it compulsory. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Re: Would anyone care
Not at all "stick it right up em" as Teddy would say....The_President wrote:If one of our players were gay?
Do you think it would have an impact on the locker room at all?
Find it surprising that the league hasn't had any openly gay players as of it.
“Yeah….nah””
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Glad to hear that you still have your teddy!Teflon wrote:Not at all "stick it right up em" as Teddy would say....The_President wrote:If one of our players were gay?
Do you think it would have an impact on the locker room at all?
Find it surprising that the league hasn't had any openly gay players as of it.
*Allegedly.
Bring back Lucky Burgers, and nobody gets hurt.
You can't un-fry things.
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Bring back Lucky Burgers, and nobody gets hurt.
You can't un-fry things.
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Yep with leather teddy pants and all!!satchmo wrote:Glad to hear that you still have your teddy!Teflon wrote:Not at all "stick it right up em" as Teddy would say....The_President wrote:If one of our players were gay?
Do you think it would have an impact on the locker room at all?
Find it surprising that the league hasn't had any openly gay players as of it.
“Yeah….nah””
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As an old ss buddy would say...."Moist!"Teflon wrote:Yep with leather teddy pants and all!!satchmo wrote:Glad to hear that you still have your teddy!Teflon wrote:Not at all "stick it right up em" as Teddy would say....The_President wrote:If one of our players were gay?
Do you think it would have an impact on the locker room at all?
Find it surprising that the league hasn't had any openly gay players as of it.
*Allegedly.
Bring back Lucky Burgers, and nobody gets hurt.
You can't un-fry things.
Last Post
Bring back Lucky Burgers, and nobody gets hurt.
You can't un-fry things.
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Yep. Good sensible response. I think it is probably along those lines. Would be s*** for the first few players unless they are incredibly mentally tough and have thick skins.shrodes wrote:I am speculating here. I think being the first openly gay player carries with it quite a lot of pressure and media attention. Most players wouldn't care for the amount of attention they would get. That's just off the field. Then you throw in the idiots over the fence yelling garbage at them, at least short term.Con Gorozidis wrote:Good question. I'm not sure of the answer.The_President wrote:We do now and so does the league in general.Con Gorozidis wrote:Wouldn't give a stuff.
I'm sure the Saints have already had gay players in the past.
Why don't you think the players feel comfortable with coming out?
There is some positive impact to having openly gay sports stars - sadly it is still stigmatised, and the more common it becomes, the less of a news story it is, and no one will worry about what is a normal occurrence. But would be pretty hard work for that first lad. I think if a small number, even one player, came out as gay that a number would follow with less on their shoulders to worry about.
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Did Dawn come out? I honestly cant even remember.prwilkinson wrote:Nah, I don't think anyone cares. And if they do, no one needs folks like that! But, I think what's stopping someone is that thought of being 'The first openly gay player'... No longer defined simply by your footy career but your sexuality ... plus you'd have the parasitic footy media lobbing up at your door step trying to write a story about how people need to just let you live your life... so let us write a double page spread on it. But who knows... when one player finally does, 10 other players might stick their hand up too the next day.
Think of it this way... no one gave a flying F&$K what so ever about Ian Thorpe coming out and he's one of Australia's greatest ever Olympians.
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Re: Would anyone care
The Saints lead the way.
We had a cross dresser back in the 60s.
We had a cross dresser back in the 60s.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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It's hard enough to build a career in the AFL without another distraction and unwanted attention from media and idiots. If someone did want to come out and promote pride and equality, I wonder if it might be easier to do after retiring?
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Do not care. We have one. Would hope it would have no impact.
It's bloody hard for for people to reach out - consider this story-
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victor ... 981e493fe7
It's bloody hard for for people to reach out - consider this story-
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victor ... 981e493fe7
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Re: Would anyone care
Last year we hosted the pride match. The crowd seemed lower than expected. I reckon our supporter base is probably not ideal for this message it seems
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The Barometer wrote:Do not care. We have one. Would hope it would have no impact.
It's bloody hard for for people to reach out - consider this story-
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victor ... 981e493fe7
Yes I'm aware, just wondered if it would impact the locker room culture at all?
Doesn't seem too. He seem's a popular lad