Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
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Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
should have a look at Essendon. They traded Jenkins, who is now at Adelaide, because they had Bellchambers and Ryder, and now they don't have jack.
And although the second half wasn't stellar, I thought we saw enough today to give us some evidence that the club is heading in the right direction.
And although the second half wasn't stellar, I thought we saw enough today to give us some evidence that the club is heading in the right direction.
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
We won't be trading either Hickey or Longer.
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
Goldstein's probably the standout ruckman in the competition - he's 27. Didn't play more than 13 games in a season until he was 22.Freebird wrote:Goldstein 39 hit outs - Hickey & Longer 21 hit outs
These 2 have a long way to go before they're more than competitive.
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
On another thread I said we needed three AFL capable ruckmen.
Holmes hopefully makes three.
I think it's developing into a solid ruck squad.
Holmes hopefully makes three.
I think it's developing into a solid ruck squad.
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
This is where I believe Holmes will eventually be the number one Ruckman. Hes got the leap to compete.(TM)Freebird wrote:Goldstein 39 hit outs - Hickey & Longer1 hit outs
have a long way to go before they're more than competitive.
He's killing it in tbe VFL and will eventually be more than able to compete around the ground. Hickey is going to be a weapon for us in a few years. Longer may be too 1 dimensional.After the last few games I've got say my whole view on Longer and Hickey have changed.
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
Trading a ruckman out is fine... Just needs to be the right ones.
Carlton got rid of Jacobs to keep warnock, kruezer & Hampson.
McEvoy & Stanley were pretty bold moves, hopefully we get it right if we trade out any more.
Carlton got rid of Jacobs to keep warnock, kruezer & Hampson.
McEvoy & Stanley were pretty bold moves, hopefully we get it right if we trade out any more.
Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
third year in the system for Longer, or 2nd?The Fireman wrote:Longer is taking longer than I thought.
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
Third. Second with us. I see him as our conventional ruckman. With Hickey the third marking option up forward who can give him a chop out, so that we don't have to play Bruce in the ruck. It also means that we can play Bruce in the backline as a swingman when necessary or required.
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
Toy Saint wrote:Has McEvoy become a better player since he left us?
He's playing alright tonight.
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
yes and he's improved that lowly teams skill level he went to....Toy Saint wrote:Has McEvoy become a better player since he left us?
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
This is Longers fourth year in the system not third.
The bloke is only 22. Show me a better, younger ruckman.
Grundy? Probably. Lycett? Maybe.
Longer is coming along well and Hickey showed he can do some flashy stuff and can develop consistency
The bloke is only 22. Show me a better, younger ruckman.
Grundy? Probably. Lycett? Maybe.
Longer is coming along well and Hickey showed he can do some flashy stuff and can develop consistency
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
4th. 2011 draft.Saint_J wrote:third year in the system for Longer, or 2nd?The Fireman wrote:Longer is taking longer than I thought.
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
I don't think McEvoy is playing particularly better
It's just that his weaknesses are better covered
It's just that his weaknesses are better covered
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
Mcevoy was a gun and still is a gun. Think he was very underrated by a lot of fans.
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
Why cant we trade a ruckman? One in a side is fine but as someone suggested you need to have the right one.
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
I reckon Sydney would like Mumford back also They went in a direction and traded out now the experts say they want a ruckman.
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
Hickey plays as a forward, gives Longer a chop out - you do mean we keep both, don't you?plugger66 wrote:Why cant we trade a ruckman? One in a side is fine but as someone suggested you need to have the right one.
The club will be flat out just replacing the guys who haven't made it, plus retirees. Some of the recruiting really has been poor, not just under Ross, but under Scott as well. Looks like Lee and White won't make it now, and we can probably add Markworth to that list as well, which is sad for the guy, but what can you do?
Then we have a few with massive question marks next to their name as well.
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
samuraisaint wrote:Hickey plays as a forward, gives Longer a chop out - you do mean we keep both, don't you?plugger66 wrote:Why cant we trade a ruckman? One in a side is fine but as someone suggested you need to have the right one.
The club will be flat out just replacing the guys who haven't made it, plus retirees. Some of the recruiting really has been poor, not just under Ross, but under Scott as well. Looks like Lee and White won't make it now, and we can probably add Markworth to that list as well, which is sad for the guy, but what can you do?
Then we have a few with massive question marks next to their name as well.
Hickey played well yesterday apparently but I don't think it works most times having him as a forward and Longer rucking. The problem we have is Longer can only play ruck. I think having Hickey as mainly a forward limits out ability to play Membery or McCartin. If it was me I would play Hickey in the ruck and he would be our lone ruckman. It isn't going to happen though.
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
How many goals did Goldstein kick? 'Cause Hickey kicked 2.Freebird wrote:Goldstein 39 hit outs - Hickey & Longer 21 hit outs
These 2 have a long way to go before they're more than competitive.
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
We need to keep them both in my opinion. McCartin is going to take years, and Membery may or may not be the forward we all hope he will be.plugger66 wrote:samuraisaint wrote:Hickey plays as a forward, gives Longer a chop out - you do mean we keep both, don't you?plugger66 wrote:Why cant we trade a ruckman? One in a side is fine but as someone suggested you need to have the right one.
The club will be flat out just replacing the guys who haven't made it, plus retirees. Some of the recruiting really has been poor, not just under Ross, but under Scott as well. Looks like Lee and White won't make it now, and we can probably add Markworth to that list as well, which is sad for the guy, but what can you do?
Then we have a few with massive question marks next to their name as well.
Hickey played well yesterday apparently but I don't think it works most times having him as a forward and Longer rucking. The problem we have is Longer can only play ruck. I think having Hickey as mainly a forward limits out ability to play Membery or McCartin. If it was me I would play Hickey in the ruck and he would be our lone ruckman.
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Re: Those who are suggesting we trade one of our ruckmen
samuraisaint wrote:We need to keep them both in my opinion. McCartin is going to take years, and Membery may or may not be the forward we all hope he will be.plugger66 wrote:samuraisaint wrote:Hickey plays as a forward, gives Longer a chop out - you do mean we keep both, don't you?plugger66 wrote:Why cant we trade a ruckman? One in a side is fine but as someone suggested you need to have the right one.
The club will be flat out just replacing the guys who haven't made it, plus retirees. Some of the recruiting really has been poor, not just under Ross, but under Scott as well. Looks like Lee and White won't make it now, and we can probably add Markworth to that list as well, which is sad for the guy, but what can you do?
Then we have a few with massive question marks next to their name as well.
Hickey played well yesterday apparently but I don't think it works most times having him as a forward and Longer rucking. The problem we have is Longer can only play ruck. I think having Hickey as mainly a forward limits out ability to play Membery or McCartin. If it was me I would play Hickey in the ruck and he would be our lone ruckman.
We need to get mids and if trading a tall gets good pick we need to take it. Hickey isn't going to work up forward to often.