Markworth - Serious Shoulder Injury
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Re: Markworth - Serious Shoulder Injury
Unfortunately for Daniel, he has become Menzel, Morabito like. Don't like his chances of making it now. He will be 24 at the start of the next AFL season and still hasn't shown whether he is even up to AFL standard yet. It's a pity he hasn't at least had the opportunity. He will need to be resilient.
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Re: Markworth - Serious Shoulder Injury
If this true and he only has a contract for this year then his career is done unfortunately. Very sad because we didn't really see him play.
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Great kid but just doesnt have the body to sustain the rigours of the game....
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Re: Markworth - Serious Shoulder Injury
I'd be very suprised if he do doesnt play footy again this year even after a full shoulder reco.
The shoulder usually comes back tighter after a reco so requires a massive amount of physio to get the flexibility and strength back.
He can still keep a fitness base on the bike and walking initially , then running after a couple of months.
With swimming and weights after that.
Sure it takes about a year for it to feel 100% again but if he has the op now I think he ll play his first game in about 4 months .
Even 5 months is round 16.
Hammil didn't actually say his season was over.
We got him basically for Tom Walsh so I really want him to succeed.
The shoulder usually comes back tighter after a reco so requires a massive amount of physio to get the flexibility and strength back.
He can still keep a fitness base on the bike and walking initially , then running after a couple of months.
With swimming and weights after that.
Sure it takes about a year for it to feel 100% again but if he has the op now I think he ll play his first game in about 4 months .
Even 5 months is round 16.
Hammil didn't actually say his season was over.
We got him basically for Tom Walsh so I really want him to succeed.
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Re: Markworth - Serious Shoulder Injury
Terrible news.
I guess you can have all the height, skills & pace in the world but if your body can't handle the rigours of AFL football it's all for nil.
At least he has a bright future outside of the game.
I guess you can have all the height, skills & pace in the world but if your body can't handle the rigours of AFL football it's all for nil.
At least he has a bright future outside of the game.
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Re: Markworth - Serious Shoulder Injury
Gee that sucks - hopefully they offer him a rookie spot next year
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Re: Markworth - Serious Shoulder Injury
Hope you’re right 70s sainter.70s sainter wrote:I'd be very suprised if he do doesnt play footy again this year even after a full shoulder reco.
The shoulder usually comes back tighter after a reco so requires a massive amount of physio to get the flexibility and strength back.
He can still keep a fitness base on the bike and walking initially , then running after a couple of months.
With swimming and weights after that.
Sure it takes about a year for it to feel 100% again but if he has the op now I think he ll play his first game in about 4 months .
Even 5 months is round 16.
Hammil didn't actually say his season was over.
We got him basically for Tom Walsh so I really want him to succeed.
While it doesn’t look great for either Markworth or the other shoulder injury sufferer Siposs, I’m one of those people who doesn’t see much point in being negative or calling things early.
Don’t really see any point is saying this bloke’s cooked due to injury any more than saying Lee will be in the WAFL in 2 years time due to having insufficient ability.
It does make it very hard for these boys, but I hope like hell they can overcome the odds and prove the naysayers wrong
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Re: Markworth - Serious Shoulder Injury
I agree completely Doctor. Well said!Dr Spaceman wrote:Hope you’re right 70s sainter.70s sainter wrote:I'd be very suprised if he do doesnt play footy again this year even after a full shoulder reco.
The shoulder usually comes back tighter after a reco so requires a massive amount of physio to get the flexibility and strength back.
He can still keep a fitness base on the bike and walking initially , then running after a couple of months.
With swimming and weights after that.
Sure it takes about a year for it to feel 100% again but if he has the op now I think he ll play his first game in about 4 months .
Even 5 months is round 16.
Hammil didn't actually say his season was over.
We got him basically for Tom Walsh so I really want him to succeed.
While it doesn’t look great for either Markworth or the other shoulder injury sufferer Siposs, I’m one of those people who doesn’t see much point in being negative or calling things early.
Don’t really see any point is saying this bloke’s cooked due to injury any more than saying Lee will be in the WAFL in 2 years time due to having insufficient ability.
It does make it very hard for these boys, but I hope like hell they can overcome the odds and prove the naysayers wrong
Good luck Daniel with your recovery.
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Re: Markworth - Serious Shoulder Injury
#standbydan
Get around him.
Get it trending.
Get around him.
Get it trending.
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+1 here too.karnaby wrote:I agree completely Doctor. Well said!Dr Spaceman wrote:Hope you’re right 70s sainter.70s sainter wrote:I'd be very suprised if he do doesnt play footy again this year even after a full shoulder reco.
The shoulder usually comes back tighter after a reco so requires a massive amount of physio to get the flexibility and strength back.
He can still keep a fitness base on the bike and walking initially , then running after a couple of months.
With swimming and weights after that.
Sure it takes about a year for it to feel 100% again but if he has the op now I think he ll play his first game in about 4 months .
Even 5 months is round 16.
Hammil didn't actually say his season was over.
We got him basically for Tom Walsh so I really want him to succeed.
While it doesn’t look great for either Markworth or the other shoulder injury sufferer Siposs, I’m one of those people who doesn’t see much point in being negative or calling things early.
Don’t really see any point is saying this bloke’s cooked due to injury any more than saying Lee will be in the WAFL in 2 years time due to having insufficient ability.
It does make it very hard for these boys, but I hope like hell they can overcome the odds and prove the naysayers wrong
Good luck Daniel with your recovery.
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plugger66 wrote:If this true and he only has a contract for this year then his career is done unfortunately. Very sad because we didn't really see him play.
I'd say he will be a rookie at worst.
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plugger66 wrote:If this true and he only has a contract for this year then his career is done unfortunately. Very sad because we didn't really see him play.
I'd say he will be a rookie at worst.
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Re: Markworth - Serious Shoulder Injury
What a disaster. Thats just devastating for the kid, the club, the coaches and the fans.
Here is the link
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-06/y ... eason-shot
Will take a miracle to come back from here. 23yo on zero AFL games. Guys who come into the AFL at 22-23 (e.g Barlow) have already been dominating at the lower level for a couple of years. Pretty cruel. I think he could come back but mentally he must be shot to pieces.
So Saad comes on to the list now?
Here is the link
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-06/y ... eason-shot
Will take a miracle to come back from here. 23yo on zero AFL games. Guys who come into the AFL at 22-23 (e.g Barlow) have already been dominating at the lower level for a couple of years. Pretty cruel. I think he could come back but mentally he must be shot to pieces.
So Saad comes on to the list now?
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I don't think pluggs was wishing any ill on Daniel at all, just facing the facts of a debut-less player spending their fourth year on the list injured. His chances of going on would have to be low.
Not sure if Richo is a fan which makes it hard, Daniel wasn't selected for this weeks match even prior to dislocating his shoulder. I don't quite understand why they wouldn't be looking to try him out, particularly with Ray, Savage & Billings missing through injury. When would they give him a game if it isn't in pre-season?
If Richo has no intention of playing him, I'm not sure why they bothered to give an extra year… pretty sure he would have clocked up quite a few games had Watters continued as coach. Maybe he just isn't good enough.
Not sure if Richo is a fan which makes it hard, Daniel wasn't selected for this weeks match even prior to dislocating his shoulder. I don't quite understand why they wouldn't be looking to try him out, particularly with Ray, Savage & Billings missing through injury. When would they give him a game if it isn't in pre-season?
If Richo has no intention of playing him, I'm not sure why they bothered to give an extra year… pretty sure he would have clocked up quite a few games had Watters continued as coach. Maybe he just isn't good enough.
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Bloody hell, how unlucky can a bloke get. I really feel for Dan at this point in time, just can't seem to get a good go at it!!
This will be a great test of his mental strength to see if he can overcome yet another long term injury.
Good luck Dan, don't give up!!
This will be a great test of his mental strength to see if he can overcome yet another long term injury.
Good luck Dan, don't give up!!
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And just to confirm that I was not referring to any particular poster in my post.dragit wrote:I don't think pluggs was wishing any ill on Daniel at all, just facing the facts of a debut-less player spending their fourth year on the list injured. His chances of going on would have to be low.
Not sure if Richo is a fan which makes it hard, Daniel wasn't selected for this weeks match even prior to dislocating his shoulder. I don't quite understand why they wouldn't be looking to try him out, particularly with Ray, Savage & Billings missing through injury. When would they give him a game if it isn't in pre-season?
If Richo has no intention of playing him, I'm not sure why they bothered to give an extra year… pretty sure he would have clocked up quite a few games had Watters continued as coach. Maybe he just isn't good enough.
I read comments about Siposs and now about Markworth. On here, but also on other forums and also in real life discussions (yes, they actually do still exist
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Who can be the first to say Lee is no good, or Schneider is past it, or whatever?
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This is bad news for one of our players and I do wish, against the odds, that Daniel (and Arryn) can come back and still have a successful career.
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Re: Markworth - Serious Shoulder Injury
Arryn is 22yo and has already played 28 AFL games.
Daniel is 23yo on zero.
Daniel will be 24 when the 2016 AFL season starts and on zero games.
Would take a miracle from here sadly.
Daniel is 23yo on zero.
Daniel will be 24 when the 2016 AFL season starts and on zero games.
Would take a miracle from here sadly.
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Re: Markworth - Serious Shoulder Injury
Tony said in another thread they were being cautious with him this week but he was earmarked for the Hawks game.dragit wrote:I don't think pluggs was wishing any ill on Daniel at all, just facing the facts of a debut-less player spending their fourth year on the list injured. His chances of going on would have to be low.
Not sure if Richo is a fan which makes it hard, Daniel wasn't selected for this weeks match even prior to dislocating his shoulder. I don't quite understand why they wouldn't be looking to try him out, particularly with Ray, Savage & Billings missing through injury. When would they give him a game if it isn't in pre-season?
If Richo has no intention of playing him, I'm not sure why they bothered to give an extra year… pretty sure he would have clocked up quite a few games had Watters continued as coach. Maybe he just isn't good enough.
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dragit wrote:I don't think pluggs was wishing any ill on Daniel at all, just facing the facts of a debut-less player spending their fourth year on the list injured. His chances of going on would have to be low.
Not sure if Richo is a fan which makes it hard, Daniel wasn't selected for this weeks match even prior to dislocating his shoulder. I don't quite understand why they wouldn't be looking to try him out, particularly with Ray, Savage & Billings missing through injury. When would they give him a game if it isn't in pre-season?
If Richo has no intention of playing him, I'm not sure why they bothered to give an extra year… pretty sure he would have clocked up quite a few games had Watters continued as coach. Maybe he just isn't good enough.
Certainly not wishing the worst for Daniel. I cant wish bad upon any real saints players and if anything I stick for them maybe too often. Hope he gets back later this year so he can show something. And unless you are going to show an old post I don't think there is any point in being first to say a player will be delisted. I don't make a habit of showing posts when im right because there are far to many when im wrong. I think that would apply to most posters.
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Re: Markworth - Serious Shoulder Injury
He wasn't picked this week because he hurt the shoulder two weeks ago in the intraclub, not because Richo doesn't want to play him.dragit wrote:I don't think pluggs was wishing any ill on Daniel at all, just facing the facts of a debut-less player spending their fourth year on the list injured. His chances of going on would have to be low.
Not sure if Richo is a fan which makes it hard, Daniel wasn't selected for this weeks match even prior to dislocating his shoulder. I don't quite understand why they wouldn't be looking to try him out, particularly with Ray, Savage & Billings missing through injury. When would they give him a game if it isn't in pre-season?
If Richo has no intention of playing him, I'm not sure why they bothered to give an extra year… pretty sure he would have clocked up quite a few games had Watters continued as coach. Maybe he just isn't good enough.
Very bad luck for the shoulder to pop out at training yesterday.
All the best for the future Daniel! Hope you make your debut later this year.
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Re: Markworth - Serious Shoulder Injury
Regardless of how careful and diligent the club have been, shoulders don't generally just pop out unless there is damage there already, and ligaments and tendons have already been stretched. Can't just be a coincidence imo. Obviously there was more damage to his shoulder than the club realised from his knock the other week. I don't believe he was just unlucky.
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Re: Markworth - Serious Shoulder Injury
8856brother wrote:Regardless of how careful and diligent the club have been, shoulders don't generally just pop out unless there is damage there already, and ligaments and tendons have already been stretched. Can't just be a coincidence imo. Obviously there was more damage to his shoulder than the club realised from his knock the other week. I don't believe he was just unlucky.
So you don't think they had it xrayed? I will bet they did. They get xrays for more minor things than that and considering he had previous trouble with it I would say it was certain they did.
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Do x-rays show if a ligament, or ligaments have been stretched? I don't know the answer to that. I have had a shoulder reco, and when your shoulder is not dislocated it feels ok. But once your ligaments are stretched your shoulder tends to pop out quite easily. Mine used to pop out sometimes closing a door. Not sure of the circumstances behind Markworth's injury this week. Once there's damage, it only gets worse.plugger66 wrote:8856brother wrote:Regardless of how careful and diligent the club have been, shoulders don't generally just pop out unless there is damage there already, and ligaments and tendons have already been stretched. Can't just be a coincidence imo. Obviously there was more damage to his shoulder than the club realised from his knock the other week. I don't believe he was just unlucky.
So you don't think they had it xrayed? I will bet they did. They get xrays for more minor things than that and considering he had previous trouble with it I would say it was certain they did.
You will be right though.
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