jon anderson's top 20 draft picks..and now emma's
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"IN an AFL draft rated the most open in a decade, one performance over the coming weeks could determine which way recruiters go at the very top.
Maybe that performance took place last Friday, June 20, on the hallowed fields of Geelong Grammar where their full forward in Patrick McCartin booted five goals against Xavier College.
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Those who witnessed the display said it had all the hallmarks of a budding AFL key forward, even if schoolboy football is rarely used as a strong guideline. But McCartin was opposed at times by a promising young Xavier College defender named Jack Whitehead.
McCartin will get the opportunity to further impress tomorrow when the U18 division 1 games are played at Simmonds Stadium in Geelong. As a Type 2 diabetic he requires five to six injections a day and must come to the bench during games to check his blood."
"IN an AFL draft rated the most open in a decade, one performance over the coming weeks could determine which way recruiters go at the very top.
Maybe that performance took place last Friday, June 20, on the hallowed fields of Geelong Grammar where their full forward in Patrick McCartin booted five goals against Xavier College.
RE-LIVE LIVE CHAT WITH CHAMPION DATA’S U18s EXPERT DANIEL HOYNE ...
Those who witnessed the display said it had all the hallmarks of a budding AFL key forward, even if schoolboy football is rarely used as a strong guideline. But McCartin was opposed at times by a promising young Xavier College defender named Jack Whitehead.
McCartin will get the opportunity to further impress tomorrow when the U18 division 1 games are played at Simmonds Stadium in Geelong. As a Type 2 diabetic he requires five to six injections a day and must come to the bench during games to check his blood."
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Re: jon anderson's top 20 draft picks
Not a great time to have the number one pick!stinger wrote:"IN an AFL draft rated the most open in a decade...
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Re: jon anderson's top 20 draft picks
Have been thinking that for a while. But...we may not finish last. I know, I know....we've been rubbish, but signs were better last week. Picks 1-3 a lottery.bergholt wrote:Not a great time to have the number one pick!stinger wrote:"IN an AFL draft rated the most open in a decade...
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Ill say it again, pick one is worth more on the trade market than the draft this year. A Tyson type deal is the way to go
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Re: jon anderson's top 20 draft picks
Bergs and Sting, I also agree with both your assessments. And if those assessments still hold true by draft time, then this is where the Pelican comes in.bergholt wrote:Not a great time to have the number one pick!stinger wrote:"IN an AFL draft rated the most open in a decade...
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We try to wrangle a top three pick into two top 10-ish picks,
or maybe one top ten plus a top player,
or maybe we grab one of the Wogans best and brightest with said pick... and other pick exchanges (either way) to balance out said deal...
So ultimately, IMHO it doesn't have to matter if there's no absolute standout choice for us come draft time.
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Re: jon anderson's top 20 draft picks
Dave McNamara wrote:Bergs and Sting, I also agree with both your assessments. And if those assessments still hold true by draft time, then this is where the Pelican comes in.bergholt wrote:Not a great time to have the number one pick!stinger wrote:"IN an AFL draft rated the most open in a decade...![]()
We try to wrangle a top three pick into two top 10-ish picks,
or maybe one top ten plus a top player,
or maybe we grab one of the Wogans best and brightest with said pick... and other pick exchanges (either way) to balance out said deal...
So ultimately, IMHO it doesn't have to matter if there's no absolute standout choice for us come draft time.
Who the hell are the wogans?
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I'd love that to be the case, but why would another team rate the pick so much higher than us?St Ick wrote:Ill say it again, pick one is worth more on the trade market than the draft this year. A Tyson type deal is the way to go
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I am over trying to decipher his comedy. Just assume it not the saints.plugger66 wrote:Dave McNamara wrote:Bergs and Sting, I also agree with both your assessments. And if those assessments still hold true by draft time, then this is where the Pelican comes in.bergholt wrote:Not a great time to have the number one pick!stinger wrote:"IN an AFL draft rated the most open in a decade...![]()
We try to wrangle a top three pick into two top 10-ish picks,
or maybe one top ten plus a top player,
or maybe we grab one of the Wogans best and brightest with said pick... and other pick exchanges (either way) to balance out said deal...
So ultimately, IMHO it doesn't have to matter if there's no absolute standout choice for us come draft time.
Who the hell are the wogans?
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My thoughts exactly. Other teams will likely value the pick similarly to us. It is worth less in the trade market than last years #1.bergholt wrote:I'd love that to be the case, but why would another team rate the pick so much higher than us?St Ick wrote:Ill say it again, pick one is worth more on the trade market than the draft this year. A Tyson type deal is the way to go
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thats right. It defies logicbergholt wrote:I'd love that to be the case, but why would another team rate the pick so much higher than us?St Ick wrote:Ill say it again, pick one is worth more on the trade market than the draft this year. A Tyson type deal is the way to go
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Well, pick one is usually no go. A team might rate someone as a clear standout still and they may rate him a heap more than we do, plus if you are going to lose a player why not let it be for the pick of the bunch. IMO, GWS may see McCartin as a better fit for Boyd and Cameron than they do Patton.magnifisaint wrote:thats right. It defies logicbergholt wrote:I'd love that to be the case, but why would another team rate the pick so much higher than us?St Ick wrote:Ill say it again, pick one is worth more on the trade market than the draft this year. A Tyson type deal is the way to go
Either way, we should dangle the carrot
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St Ick wrote:Well, pick one is usually no go. A team might rate someone as a clear standout still and they may rate him a heap more than we do, plus if you are going to lose a player why not let it be for the pick of the bunch. IMO, GWS may see McCartin as a better fit for Boyd and Cameron than they do Patton.magnifisaint wrote:thats right. It defies logicbergholt wrote:I'd love that to be the case, but why would another team rate the pick so much higher than us?St Ick wrote:Ill say it again, pick one is worth more on the trade market than the draft this year. A Tyson type deal is the way to go
Either way, we should dangle the carrot
But we may do the same as well. Why do people suggest our club or the supporters know more than other clubs?
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plugger66, it's not about our club knowing more than other clubs. Fact. Clubs rate draft talent differently. GWS rated Kelly higher than a contracted former pick 2 in Dom Tyson and also gave some change. Paul Roos has gone on record stating he doesn't rate high draft picks and prefers to trade them for establish players even if not as highly rated as the draft talent.
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Old Mate wrote:plugger66, it's not about our club knowing more than other clubs. Fact. Clubs rate draft talent differently. GWS rated Kelly higher than a contracted former pick 2 in Dom Tyson and also gave some change. Paul Roos has gone on record stating he doesn't rate high draft picks and prefers to trade them for establish players even if not as highly rated as the draft talent.
Yes they do and our club may want to keep our pick because we reckon its a great draft.
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True. However I feel clubs see an opportunity to recruit second-third year talent from GWS and that increases the chances of high picks being traded.plugger66 wrote:Old Mate wrote:plugger66, it's not about our club knowing more than other clubs. Fact. Clubs rate draft talent differently. GWS rated Kelly higher than a contracted former pick 2 in Dom Tyson and also gave some change. Paul Roos has gone on record stating he doesn't rate high draft picks and prefers to trade them for establish players even if not as highly rated as the draft talent.
Yes they do and our club may want to keep our pick because we reckon its a great draft.
I know you disagree as we've had this discussion before but if we had pick 1 in this draft I would trade it for Jon Patton and pick 20, if GWS were that way inclined and I were the Pelican. I would probably trade pick 1 for Patton alone TBH.
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Yeah, but not sure Patton is on the table, and if he is, the question would have to be: why?
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As we've seen with GWS's recruiting strategy they move on talented players to secure further talent from the draft and spread their age demographic which in turn should lengthen their 'premiership window'. And Patton has been rumoured to want out of GWS. But yes, largely only a hypothetical.
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They have been lengthening the window, but they won't keep doing it forever. Reckon Patton is looking pretty good, and good bigs are hard to find. Not sure why they'd give him up for #1 in a draft with no clear #1 prospect.
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Obviously a few dominos would have to fall such as he requesting a trade. Like a said, largely a hypothetical
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Hard to work out isn't it Pluggs(?) Western Sydney bogans = Wogans. (I like it, wish it was my creation, but sadly no. And my apologies to the fellow Saintsationalist who first used that term, for my not being able to credit you.)plugger66 wrote:Dave McNamara wrote:Bergs and Sting, I also agree with both your assessments. And if those assessments still hold true by draft time, then this is where the Pelican comes in.bergholt wrote:Not a great time to have the number one pick!stinger wrote:"IN an AFL draft rated the most open in a decade...![]()
We try to wrangle a top three pick into two top 10-ish picks,
or maybe one top ten plus a top player,
or maybe we grab one of the Wogans best and brightest with said pick... and other pick exchanges (either way) to balance out said deal...
So ultimately, IMHO it doesn't have to matter if there's no absolute standout choice for us come draft time.
Who the hell are the wogans?
Oh, and Pluggs. A little respect please. Being a proper noun, 'Wogans' deserves to have a capital 'W' too.
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Re: jon anderson's top 20 draft picks
If he's having multiple injections every day, that would be Type 1 diabetes not type 2
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Five to six injections a day? Would that make him number one priority for Essendon?
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Re: jon anderson's top 20 draft picks
Dave McNamara wrote:Hard to work out isn't it Pluggs(?) Western Sydney bogans = Wogans. (I like it, wish it was my creation, but sadly no. And my apologies to the fellow Saintsationalist who first used that term, for my not being able to credit you.)plugger66 wrote:Dave McNamara wrote:Bergs and Sting, I also agree with both your assessments. And if those assessments still hold true by draft time, then this is where the Pelican comes in.bergholt wrote:Not a great time to have the number one pick!stinger wrote:"IN an AFL draft rated the most open in a decade...![]()
We try to wrangle a top three pick into two top 10-ish picks,
or maybe one top ten plus a top player,
or maybe we grab one of the Wogans best and brightest with said pick... and other pick exchanges (either way) to balance out said deal...
So ultimately, IMHO it doesn't have to matter if there's no absolute standout choice for us come draft time.
Who the hell are the wogans?
Oh, and Pluggs. A little respect please. Being a proper noun, 'Wogans' deserves to have a capital 'W' too.
You can speak how you like Dave but it makes it easier reading if use real names for clubs. GWS isnt that hard to write.