Forward line needs a bit of work
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Forward line needs a bit of work
Watched some of the replay of the NZ game, and although the whole team was lethargic in the first half (me thinks they thought an easy win was coming up), and the second half we had the ability to shift up a gear which is a good sign in a team which is a few goals down, similar to the win against Essendon. But.. we have a problem with the forward line above all- there seems to be no system once Roo hasn't got the ball in his hands. Stanley is a stop-gap forward/ ruck at best, but we really need a specialist full forward presence down there and bit more finishing skill in general. I think we need Milera down there along with Schneider to add the polish around the flanks.
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Re: Forward line needs a bit of work
I think Schneider is vital. He directs guys like Saunders and billings , he delivers the ball well to roo and Rhys and he finishes with goals. Would have won if he played vs Brisbane .
Re: Forward line needs a bit of work
I want to see Fisher come back and play out of the goal square.
Before people throw up arguments, I know he has been our best defender for years, but he has hardly played in a year.
He is old and our backline is looking okay.
Bruce and Delaney at the moment are the future and to drop one of them for a bloke in his last season is stupid.
Before people throw up arguments, I know he has been our best defender for years, but he has hardly played in a year.
He is old and our backline is looking okay.
Bruce and Delaney at the moment are the future and to drop one of them for a bloke in his last season is stupid.
Re: Forward line needs a bit of work
The best thing we can do for a forward line is to not win anymore games for the year so we can get the number 1 draft pick. Apparently there is a player that will be in the draft this year who they are saying is better than Daniher at the same age.....sorry I can't remember his name but he is about 200 cm's tall. If we win 1 or 2 more games and we end up with pick 2 then we should get Hugh Goddard.
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Re: Forward line needs a bit of work
Careful, some will tell you we don't want to actually win games this year.spert wrote:Watched some of the replay of the NZ game, and although the whole team was lethargic in the first half (me thinks they thought an easy win was coming up), and the second half we had the ability to shift up a gear which is a good sign in a team which is a few goals down, similar to the win against Essendon. But.. we have a problem with the forward line above all- there seems to be no system once Roo hasn't got the ball in his hands. Stanley is a stop-gap forward/ ruck at best, but we really need a specialist full forward presence down there and bit more finishing skill in general. I think we need Milera down there along with Schneider to add the polish around the flanks.
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You are right of course.
Schneider would have iced the game for us nicely on Friday and should come in.
Ultimately, though, we are going to need another marking target. Stanley, improved player as he is, doesn't seem to impact on the scoreboard as often as he might and is a ruck/forward rather than a natural goal-kicker.
Let's hope Lee comes on.
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Re: Forward line needs a bit of work
Great idea, i had a similar thought before the NZ game thinking where would he play if he were selected. He's got good game sense and good hands. Would also prolong his career by a year or two as he would'nt be taking the second forward and getting belted in times of need. You also gain the flexibility of throwing him back as spare if the game is at a critical stage.saintjake wrote:I want to see Fisher come back and play out of the goal square.
Before people throw up arguments, I know he has been our best defender for years, but he has hardly played in a year.
He is old and our backline is looking okay.
Bruce and Delaney at the moment are the future and to drop one of them for a bloke in his last season is stupid.
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Fisher is a natural defender.... Has been an all time great as one?
Why would he be put into an unfamiliar role at 32yo we need composure in defence and need to get rid of Gwilt
I think the two tall fwds worked against Ess... But it won't work every week
Why would he be put into an unfamiliar role at 32yo we need composure in defence and need to get rid of Gwilt
I think the two tall fwds worked against Ess... But it won't work every week
Re: Forward line needs a bit of work
I actually see it starting to come together a bit. We are still hugely reliant of Roo of course. But if (its a big IF) Stanley can keep improving I see him doing the Rooey role of pushing up on the wings and the middle to be that link/hold up player out of the back while we spread forward. Rooey has been hunting closer to goal this year. Billings is a key addition to the fwd line. He'll kick a lot of goals and set up other players with his long, precision kicking and vision. We need a crash packing forward. We need a lead up forward - TDL or Lee possibly. We will miss Eli energy and pressure on the fwd line but this is a chance for someone like TDL or Milleara to step up.
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If Lee has another good game today I think it would be about time to give him a go doing the job we recruited him to do.
Not at the expense of Roo or Stanley either. I think another marking target will straighten us up a bit more.
Not at the expense of Roo or Stanley either. I think another marking target will straighten us up a bit more.
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TDL and Milera are not good enough to play AFL and will always struggle at the highest level. The 2 of them will be gone before the 2016 season.
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Re: Forward line needs a bit of work
Schneider deserves a boot in the a#s for getting rubbed out after all the footy he has missed. He is the missing piece of the forward puzzle at the moment. He helps Roo, takes pressure of Stanley, as the defenders need to watch the more danderous Schneider, and coaches the newbies. Since the loss of Milne and Saad, and Kosi, plus Walsh not making it and leaving, Schneider is vital for the development of our younger players. Without him in that current side we will struggle to kick 10 goals in any game.
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Re: Forward line needs a bit of work
failing getting permanently banned from SS, the best thing you could do is start trolling a different website not ours.citywest wrote:The best thing we can do for a forward line is to not win anymore games for the year so we can get the number 1 draft pick. Apparently there is a player that will be in the draft this year who they are saying is better than Daniher at the same age.....sorry I can't remember his name but he is about 200 cm's tall. If we win 1 or 2 more games and we end up with pick 2 then we should get Hugh Goddard.
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Re: Forward line needs a bit of work
saintspremiers - do you have any evidence that citywest is an essendon supporter and therefore trolling by offering the opinion that we should lose in order to get a high draft pick?saintspremiers wrote:failing getting permanently banned from SS, the best thing you could do is start trolling a different website not ours.citywest wrote:The best thing we can do for a forward line is to not win anymore games for the year so we can get the number 1 draft pick. Apparently there is a player that will be in the draft this year who they are saying is better than Daniher at the same age.....sorry I can't remember his name but he is about 200 cm's tall. If we win 1 or 2 more games and we end up with pick 2 then we should get Hugh Goddard.
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without proof ... there is nothing i can do as a moderator.
and on that basis he is entitled to that opinion (I have Saints supporting friend who has the same opinion even though I totally disagree) ...
the question then becomes do you (by calling him a troll and an essendon supporter) breach rules by baiting a fellow St. kilda supporter?
if you and others want citywest banned for trolling ... then PROVE he is not a St. Kilda supporter rather than a St. Kilda supporter with an unpopular point of view
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Re: Forward line needs a bit of work
Agree completely, get rid of GwiltBigMart wrote:Fisher is a natural defender.... Has been an all time great as one?
Why would he be put into an unfamiliar role at 32yo we need composure in defence and need to get rid of Gwilt
I think the two tall fwds worked against Ess... But it won't work every week