Forward line needs a bit of work

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
spert
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 9100
Joined: Wed 29 Jun 2005 10:39pm
Location: A distant beach
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 434 times

Forward line needs a bit of work

Post: # 1455054Post spert »

Watched some of the replay of the NZ game, and although the whole team was lethargic in the first half (me thinks they thought an easy win was coming up), and the second half we had the ability to shift up a gear which is a good sign in a team which is a few goals down, similar to the win against Essendon. But.. we have a problem with the forward line above all- there seems to be no system once Roo hasn't got the ball in his hands. Stanley is a stop-gap forward/ ruck at best, but we really need a specialist full forward presence down there and bit more finishing skill in general. I think we need Milera down there along with Schneider to add the polish around the flanks.


Terrance80
Club Player
Posts: 36
Joined: Mon 23 Jul 2012 7:20pm

Re: Forward line needs a bit of work

Post: # 1455059Post Terrance80 »

I think Schneider is vital. He directs guys like Saunders and billings , he delivers the ball well to roo and Rhys and he finishes with goals. Would have won if he played vs Brisbane .


saintjake
Club Player
Posts: 1511
Joined: Sat 09 Feb 2008 1:49pm
Contact:

Re: Forward line needs a bit of work

Post: # 1455061Post saintjake »

I want to see Fisher come back and play out of the goal square.
Before people throw up arguments, I know he has been our best defender for years, but he has hardly played in a year.
He is old and our backline is looking okay.
Bruce and Delaney at the moment are the future and to drop one of them for a bloke in his last season is stupid.


citywest

Re: Forward line needs a bit of work

Post: # 1455068Post citywest »

The best thing we can do for a forward line is to not win anymore games for the year so we can get the number 1 draft pick. Apparently there is a player that will be in the draft this year who they are saying is better than Daniher at the same age.....sorry I can't remember his name but he is about 200 cm's tall. If we win 1 or 2 more games and we end up with pick 2 then we should get Hugh Goddard.


bigcarl
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 18599
Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 1:36am
Has thanked: 1924 times
Been thanked: 852 times

Re: Forward line needs a bit of work

Post: # 1455075Post bigcarl »

spert wrote:Watched some of the replay of the NZ game, and although the whole team was lethargic in the first half (me thinks they thought an easy win was coming up), and the second half we had the ability to shift up a gear which is a good sign in a team which is a few goals down, similar to the win against Essendon. But.. we have a problem with the forward line above all- there seems to be no system once Roo hasn't got the ball in his hands. Stanley is a stop-gap forward/ ruck at best, but we really need a specialist full forward presence down there and bit more finishing skill in general. I think we need Milera down there along with Schneider to add the polish around the flanks.
Careful, some will tell you we don't want to actually win games this year. :wink:

You are right of course.

Schneider would have iced the game for us nicely on Friday and should come in.

Ultimately, though, we are going to need another marking target. Stanley, improved player as he is, doesn't seem to impact on the scoreboard as often as he might and is a ruck/forward rather than a natural goal-kicker.

Let's hope Lee comes on.


oldie60
Club Player
Posts: 312
Joined: Wed 21 Sep 2011 6:06pm
Has thanked: 91 times
Been thanked: 32 times

Re: Forward line needs a bit of work

Post: # 1455078Post oldie60 »

saintjake wrote:I want to see Fisher come back and play out of the goal square.
Before people throw up arguments, I know he has been our best defender for years, but he has hardly played in a year.
He is old and our backline is looking okay.
Bruce and Delaney at the moment are the future and to drop one of them for a bloke in his last season is stupid.
Great idea, i had a similar thought before the NZ game thinking where would he play if he were selected. He's got good game sense and good hands. Would also prolong his career by a year or two as he would'nt be taking the second forward and getting belted in times of need. You also gain the flexibility of throwing him back as spare if the game is at a critical stage.


BigMart
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 13622
Joined: Sat 22 Mar 2008 6:06pm
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Forward line needs a bit of work

Post: # 1455081Post BigMart »

Fisher is a natural defender.... Has been an all time great as one?

Why would he be put into an unfamiliar role at 32yo we need composure in defence and need to get rid of Gwilt

I think the two tall fwds worked against Ess... But it won't work every week


Bluthy
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4068
Joined: Wed 29 May 2013 8:05pm

Re: Forward line needs a bit of work

Post: # 1455088Post Bluthy »

I actually see it starting to come together a bit. We are still hugely reliant of Roo of course. But if (its a big IF) Stanley can keep improving I see him doing the Rooey role of pushing up on the wings and the middle to be that link/hold up player out of the back while we spread forward. Rooey has been hunting closer to goal this year. Billings is a key addition to the fwd line. He'll kick a lot of goals and set up other players with his long, precision kicking and vision. We need a crash packing forward. We need a lead up forward - TDL or Lee possibly. We will miss Eli energy and pressure on the fwd line but this is a chance for someone like TDL or Milleara to step up.


FQF
SS Life Member
Posts: 2595
Joined: Fri 03 Jul 2009 1:24am

Re: Forward line needs a bit of work

Post: # 1455090Post FQF »

If Lee has another good game today I think it would be about time to give him a go doing the job we recruited him to do.

Not at the expense of Roo or Stanley either. I think another marking target will straighten us up a bit more.


citywest

Re: Forward line needs a bit of work

Post: # 1455123Post citywest »

TDL and Milera are not good enough to play AFL and will always struggle at the highest level. The 2 of them will be gone before the 2016 season.


User avatar
samuraisaint
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5910
Joined: Sun 25 Sep 2011 3:23pm
Location: M32
Has thanked: 855 times
Been thanked: 797 times

Re: Forward line needs a bit of work

Post: # 1455124Post samuraisaint »

Schneider deserves a boot in the a#s for getting rubbed out after all the footy he has missed. He is the missing piece of the forward puzzle at the moment. He helps Roo, takes pressure of Stanley, as the defenders need to watch the more danderous Schneider, and coaches the newbies. Since the loss of Milne and Saad, and Kosi, plus Walsh not making it and leaving, Schneider is vital for the development of our younger players. Without him in that current side we will struggle to kick 10 goals in any game.


Your friendly neighbourhood samurai.
saintspremiers
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 25303
Joined: Tue 01 Feb 2005 4:25pm
Location: Trump Tower
Has thanked: 142 times
Been thanked: 284 times

Re: Forward line needs a bit of work

Post: # 1455126Post saintspremiers »

citywest wrote:The best thing we can do for a forward line is to not win anymore games for the year so we can get the number 1 draft pick. Apparently there is a player that will be in the draft this year who they are saying is better than Daniher at the same age.....sorry I can't remember his name but he is about 200 cm's tall. If we win 1 or 2 more games and we end up with pick 2 then we should get Hugh Goddard.
failing getting permanently banned from SS, the best thing you could do is start trolling a different website not ours.

Try bomberblitz.com.au


i am Melbourne Skies - sometimes Blue Skies, Grey Skies, even Partly Cloudy Skies.
User avatar
BackFromUSA
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4640
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 12:38am
Has thanked: 51 times
Been thanked: 507 times

Re: Forward line needs a bit of work

Post: # 1455133Post BackFromUSA »

saintspremiers wrote:
citywest wrote:The best thing we can do for a forward line is to not win anymore games for the year so we can get the number 1 draft pick. Apparently there is a player that will be in the draft this year who they are saying is better than Daniher at the same age.....sorry I can't remember his name but he is about 200 cm's tall. If we win 1 or 2 more games and we end up with pick 2 then we should get Hugh Goddard.
failing getting permanently banned from SS, the best thing you could do is start trolling a different website not ours.

Try bomberblitz.com.au
saintspremiers - do you have any evidence that citywest is an essendon supporter and therefore trolling by offering the opinion that we should lose in order to get a high draft pick?

without proof ... there is nothing i can do as a moderator.

and on that basis he is entitled to that opinion (I have Saints supporting friend who has the same opinion even though I totally disagree) ...

the question then becomes do you (by calling him a troll and an essendon supporter) breach rules by baiting a fellow St. kilda supporter?

if you and others want citywest banned for trolling ... then PROVE he is not a St. Kilda supporter rather than a St. Kilda supporter with an unpopular point of view


AwayInUSA no longer ... have based myself back in Melbourne for a decade of Saintsational Success (with regular trips back to the USA)

"Saintsational Player Sponsor 2007 - 2018"
maverick
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5017
Joined: Sun 14 Mar 2004 10:42am
Location: Bayside
Has thanked: 9 times
Been thanked: 91 times

Re: Forward line needs a bit of work

Post: # 1455214Post maverick »

BigMart wrote:Fisher is a natural defender.... Has been an all time great as one?

Why would he be put into an unfamiliar role at 32yo we need composure in defence and need to get rid of Gwilt

I think the two tall fwds worked against Ess... But it won't work every week
Agree completely, get rid of Gwilt


Post Reply