A Good Trade Period
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A Good Trade Period
We started with what after the free agency compensation was
Nick Dal Santo
Ben McEvoy
Pick 3
Pick 24
Pick 41
Pick 59
Pick 77
Pick 3 in Pre Season Draft
Now we have
Shane Savage
Billy Longer
Josh Bruce
Luke Delaney
Pick 3
Pick 18
Pick 19
Pick 3 in Pre Season Draft
We also have picks 95, 113 etc for any rookie upgrades.
Nick Dal Santo
Ben McEvoy
Pick 3
Pick 24
Pick 41
Pick 59
Pick 77
Pick 3 in Pre Season Draft
Now we have
Shane Savage
Billy Longer
Josh Bruce
Luke Delaney
Pick 3
Pick 18
Pick 19
Pick 3 in Pre Season Draft
We also have picks 95, 113 etc for any rookie upgrades.
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Re: A Good Trade Period
Yeah congrats Saints excellent work !
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Re: A Good Trade Period
maxdis 42 wrote:The pelican has weaved his magic..
He has done very well but there is no magic until at least 2 of those guys become A grade or very close to it.
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Re: A Good Trade Period
We presently have only 2 National Draft picks activated.
That means 1 player must be cut to accommodate National Draft pick No 19.
Another player will need to be cut to accommodate Pre Season Draft pick No 3.
Then if any permanent rookie upgrades are to be made additional cuts are necessary.
That means 1 player must be cut to accommodate National Draft pick No 19.
Another player will need to be cut to accommodate Pre Season Draft pick No 3.
Then if any permanent rookie upgrades are to be made additional cuts are necessary.
The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
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Re: A Good Trade Period
We won't have many spots on our list unless we do some culling.
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Re: A Good Trade Period
This has been the first genuinely successful trade period for us in a long time. It's a bit rough saying goodbye to McEvoy and Dal, but we're going to be a much stronger team in 4-5 years time thanks to the moves made over the past three weeks
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Re: A Good Trade Period
We definitely need to get Curren on our list so there will be at least two further delistings.ace wrote:We presently have only 2 National Draft picks activated.
That means 1 player must be cut to accommodate National Draft pick No 19.
Another player will need to be cut to accommodate Pre Season Draft pick No 3.
Then if any permanent rookie upgrades are to be made additional cuts are necessary.
"...If there has been one recurring theme through this whole shocking mess, it has been the misguided, inflated egos and their ill-judged determination to cling to long-standing old boy friendships. The bad advice that has guided the selfish and culpable James Hird has not only punctuated this saga but symbolised it..."
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Re: A Good Trade Period
Still think last year was ok when you consider the total number of players gained.mad saint guy wrote:This has been the first genuinely successful trade period for us in a long time. It's a bit rough saying goodbye to McEvoy and Dal, but we're going to be a much stronger team in 4-5 years time thanks to the moves made over the past three weeks
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Re: A Good Trade Period
Add billingsto the list on top of another mid?.
Plus next years high draft pick......maybe we will be the juggernaut! Scotty talked about
Plus next years high draft pick......maybe we will be the juggernaut! Scotty talked about
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Re: A Good Trade Period
Great effort by Pelchen and Co.
I would still have preferred a young mid rather than Longer (as my preference is you grab a good ruckman once you are in the Premiership Window, as opposed to highly rated kids who have 5 years to go and may never make it - plus a lot of good ruckman come from lowly or rookie backgrounds anyway). however there are big raps on Longer.
However leaving that aside we have gained 2 more picks inside the top 20 where there is still some real quality young picks, plus with Savage, Longer, Bruce and Delaney have made our list a lot better balanced overall.
One has to commend Pelchen on his ability to do very good deals, and to clear have a solid long term recruiting strategy, rather than the overly simplistic "best available" that some favour. Instead we have a good mix of targeting and recruiting for needs, and can then go best available with 3 well positioned picks.
I would still have preferred a young mid rather than Longer (as my preference is you grab a good ruckman once you are in the Premiership Window, as opposed to highly rated kids who have 5 years to go and may never make it - plus a lot of good ruckman come from lowly or rookie backgrounds anyway). however there are big raps on Longer.
However leaving that aside we have gained 2 more picks inside the top 20 where there is still some real quality young picks, plus with Savage, Longer, Bruce and Delaney have made our list a lot better balanced overall.
One has to commend Pelchen on his ability to do very good deals, and to clear have a solid long term recruiting strategy, rather than the overly simplistic "best available" that some favour. Instead we have a good mix of targeting and recruiting for needs, and can then go best available with 3 well positioned picks.
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Re: A Good Trade Period
Im pretty impressed.
He said we would be 'aggressive'
He said there would be two bombshells
He said we would target 3 top 20 picks.
Everything came true. Well done. I dont think trade time is easy on anyone.
Now we need Tony Elshaugh to shine with his 3 picks!
CMON!
He said we would be 'aggressive'
He said there would be two bombshells
He said we would target 3 top 20 picks.
Everything came true. Well done. I dont think trade time is easy on anyone.
Now we need Tony Elshaugh to shine with his 3 picks!
CMON!
Re: A Good Trade Period
I think we have to look at the trade period as 9 weeks over three years.saintsRrising wrote:Still think last year was ok when you consider the total number of players gained.mad saint guy wrote:This has been the first genuinely successful trade period for us in a long time. It's a bit rough saying goodbye to McEvoy and Dal, but we're going to be a much stronger team in 4-5 years time thanks to the moves made over the past three weeks
Then it looks like
Hickey
Wright
White
Lee
Bruce
Delany
Longer
Savage
+ high draft picks 2013/14
+ big free agent signing 2015
Any doubts over Pelchans ability to attract talent and manage a list should be squashed......let jump on board this juggernaut train.
(I refuse to add TDL to list due to his inability yo play AFL football properly)
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Re: A Good Trade Period
ace wrote:We presently have only 2 National Draft picks activated.
That means 1 player must be cut to accommodate National Draft pick No 19.
Another player will need to be cut to accommodate Pre Season Draft pick No 3.
Then if any permanent rookie upgrades are to be made additional cuts are necessary.
Oops miscount, but it is OK, the team score is not reduced to zero.
We have one less player.
We presently have all 3 National Draft picks 3, 18 & 19 activated.
That means 0 players must be cut to accommodate all our National Draft picks.
Another player will need to be cut to accommodate Pre Season Draft pick No 3.
Possibly Ahmed Saad being dropped and then added to the rookie list while he serves his time.
Then if any permanent rookie upgrades are to be made with National draft picks 95, 113 etc additional cuts are necessary.
The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
Re: A Good Trade Period
ace wrote:ace wrote:We presently have only 2 National Draft picks activated.
That means 1 player must be cut to accommodate National Draft pick No 19.
Another player will need to be cut to accommodate Pre Season Draft pick No 3.
Then if any permanent rookie upgrades are to be made additional cuts are necessary.
Oops miscount, but it is OK, the team score is not reduced to zero.
We have one less player.
We presently have all 3 National Draft picks 3, 18 & 19 activated.
That means 0 players must be cut to accommodate all our National Draft picks.
Another player will need to be cut to accommodate Pre Season Draft pick No 3.
Possibly Ahmed Saad being dropped and then added to the rookie list while he serves his time.
Then if any permanent rookie upgrades are to be made with National draft picks 95, 113 etc additional cuts are necessary.
Well Curran has to be ungraded so we need to delist one player or make them a rookie. Saad will be delisted i would think.
Re: A Good Trade Period
A very impressive performance by the Pelican and co. Bold, intelligent, strategic: words I have rarely associated with our management in the past.
I was initially upset to lose Dal - one of my all time favourite Saints - but, viewing the entirety of the trading shows the move was perfect for the club and he won't be taking up game time from Seb Ross, Nate Wright or Billy Hartung (I watched the video and was immediately taken by him: looks like Jason Gram at his peak, except he can actually hit a target! I hope we can we get him at pick 19...).
For once we will be reading about St Kilda as the winners in the trade period after the Ball and Lovett debacles in recent years. Though, as an aside, I think Collingwood slightly shaded us by snaring Adams, 6 and 10, setting themselves up to be top 4 for the next 5 years in the process.
Now we just need to nail these picks. No Brad Howard smokies please. Happy to be conservative and pick the consensus best at each point, so ignore my musings on Billy Hartung above.
I was initially upset to lose Dal - one of my all time favourite Saints - but, viewing the entirety of the trading shows the move was perfect for the club and he won't be taking up game time from Seb Ross, Nate Wright or Billy Hartung (I watched the video and was immediately taken by him: looks like Jason Gram at his peak, except he can actually hit a target! I hope we can we get him at pick 19...).
For once we will be reading about St Kilda as the winners in the trade period after the Ball and Lovett debacles in recent years. Though, as an aside, I think Collingwood slightly shaded us by snaring Adams, 6 and 10, setting themselves up to be top 4 for the next 5 years in the process.
Now we just need to nail these picks. No Brad Howard smokies please. Happy to be conservative and pick the consensus best at each point, so ignore my musings on Billy Hartung above.
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Re: A Good Trade Period
Are we waiting for a saviour?
I'm so sick of waiting!
I've been waiting my whole life!
This is a new day!
I'm so sick of waiting!
I've been waiting my whole life!
This is a new day!
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Re: A Good Trade Period
Curren has been signed for 1 or 2 years so they will have to find him a spot on the list.
I've lost track on who has been culled and who has been recruited and how many more spots we need on the list to make
all the planned changes. Can anyone give us a summary of the post season action so far, including Curren and picks 3, 18 and 19.
I've lost track on who has been culled and who has been recruited and how many more spots we need on the list to make
all the planned changes. Can anyone give us a summary of the post season action so far, including Curren and picks 3, 18 and 19.
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
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Re: A Good Trade Period
The ones that count:
Nick Dal Santo
Ben McEvoy
Pick 3
Pick 24
Pick 41
turned in to:
Shane Savage
Billy Longer
Josh Bruce
Luke Delaney
Pick 3
Pick 18
Pick 19
Out goes two players, pick 24 and 41. In comes four players, pick 18 and 19.
How the hell does he do it?![Mr. Green :mrgreen:](./images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
Nick Dal Santo
Ben McEvoy
Pick 3
Pick 24
Pick 41
turned in to:
Shane Savage
Billy Longer
Josh Bruce
Luke Delaney
Pick 3
Pick 18
Pick 19
Out goes two players, pick 24 and 41. In comes four players, pick 18 and 19.
How the hell does he do it?
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Re: A Good Trade Period
Anyone else looking forward to a savage Bruce Lee hickey?
I bought a shirt from Target once.
It had a hard tag on it too.
I know how Dal feels.
It had a hard tag on it too.
I know how Dal feels.
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Re: A Good Trade Period
Very good questionMunga wrote:The ones that count:
Nick Dal Santo
Ben McEvoy
Pick 3
Pick 24
Pick 41
turned in to:
Shane Savage
Billy Longer
Josh Bruce
Luke Delaney
Pick 3
Pick 18
Pick 19
Out goes two players, pick 24 and 41. In comes four players, pick 18 and 19.
How the hell does he do it?
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Re: A Good Trade Period
you just caused me to spit out my coffee ... well doneduckduckduckgoose wrote:Anyone else looking forward to a savage Bruce Lee hickey?
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