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In the previous month, Champion Data ranked Lee a clear No.1 in the AFL for retaining inside 50s directed at him, keeping the ball 81 per cent of the time. That he leads the Saints over the past five games for inside 50 targets (27) and marks inside 50 (14) would hearten Ameet Bains and his recruiting team, who saw in Lee an alternative target and eventual heir to Nick Riewoldt.
''The boys would be stupid not to look for Rooey, he gives us such a great contest, [but] if they're using me just as a much as him I'm obviously very flattered and honoured,'' Lee says.
Playing alongside an all-time great was unfathomable three years ago, when Lee was an Adelaide Crows reject in the Claremont seconds, kicking three or four goals perhaps once a month, never dominating like he now realises he should have been, carrying puppy fat and failing to run out games.
Seems to have his head screwed on, looks a very very likely future key forward. Did not realize his stats for retaining the ball in the forward line were number one in the league.
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I too hadn't realized his defensive pressure was so good.
I must admit I've warmed to the idea he may well make it from the form he's shown over the past few games.
I reckon he'll become a better version of Maister (and I don't discard Maister as a worthwhile contributor).
In other breaking news, it was revealed that paid professional club coaches and staff may have actually has a better idea of what they were doing than a bunch of anonymous keyboard heroes on fan forum. This is yet to be verified, but sources have indicated that the success of the St Kilda Football club list rebuild will be monitored very closely over the course of the next two seasons in order to confirm or deny the competence of the highly paid professionals.
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I always saw his potential after the foxtel cup series last year and watching a tape of him at WAFL level with a mate who's dad was on Freo's board for a long time. He also told me how good Roberton was so has has some good judgement. Lee looked like his defensive game was a grade and also played a great variety of roles- he could play as a small forward with clean hands crumbing and snapping or as a lead up tall and even the odd hanger. He' was super evasive and ran ring around defenders. Lots to like in Lee. I can see him being Jack Riewoldt like with a bit of bulk on his frame.
gringo wrote:I always saw his potential after the foxtel cup series last year and watching a tape of him at WAFL level with a mate who's dad was on Freo's board for a long time. He also told me how good Roberton was so has has some good judgement. Lee looked like his defensive game was a grade and also played a great variety of roles- he could play as a small forward with clean hands crumbing and snapping or as a lead up tall and even the odd hanger. He' was super evasive and ran ring around defenders. Lots to like in Lee. I can see him being Jack Riewoldt like with a bit of bulk on his frame.
Got to say i see him as nothing like a Jack Riewoldt. They weigh pretty much the same anyway. jack has no real defensive pressure and Lee is more of a lead up forward than Jack and works harder. Jack is a better pack mark and very smart.
True Believer wrote:In other breaking news, it was revealed that paid professional club coaches and staff may have actually has a better idea of what they were doing than a bunch of anonymous keyboard heroes on fan forum. This is yet to be verified, but sources have indicated that the success of the St Kilda Football club list rebuild will be monitored very closely over the course of the next two seasons in order to confirm or deny the competence of the highly paid professionals.
gringo wrote:I always saw his potential after the foxtel cup series last year and watching a tape of him at WAFL level with a mate who's dad was on Freo's board for a long time. He also told me how good Roberton was so has has some good judgement. Lee looked like his defensive game was a grade and also played a great variety of roles- he could play as a small forward with clean hands crumbing and snapping or as a lead up tall and even the odd hanger. He' was super evasive and ran ring around defenders. Lots to like in Lee. I can see him being Jack Riewoldt like with a bit of bulk on his frame.
Got to say i see him as nothing like a Jack Riewoldt. They weigh pretty much the same anyway. jack has no real defensive pressure and Lee is more of a lead up forward than Jack and works harder. Jack is a better pack mark and very smart.
Lee can do the pack marking and if he builds up will lose the evasive and ground level ability somewhat. True Jack doesn't have that defensive side but Lee is a smart footy player. He will just softly nudge out from behind like Jack and be the guy over the back who pinches the mark. He has a few party tricks I guess is why I compare them and just am wondering how the bulking up will effect the way he plays. He will surprise a few in the future I reckon, could be anything from a thirty goal third tall to a coleman medalist- he has the talent. just depends on the drive to be the best he can be.
The last 5 games Tommy's been very consistent, kicking never less than 2 goals, and never more than 3 goals in a game.
If this form were to go for 17 or 18 games this season then he would have kicked over 40 goals which would put him in the top 10 goal kickers in the league.
I can't help thinking that this consistency has to be part of having Nick Riewoldt as a mentor in the forward line. Nickj is both a role model and takes the opposition number 1 defender.
Hopefully next year Tommy can keep injury free, play 20+ games and have a few stellar games where he kicks bags of 5+. Then we'd know we have a potential A grader on our hands.
Hird... The unflushable one is now... just a turd...
Yeah Tommy is coming along nicely. Love to see him tear new arseholes on the Dawks defenders tonite. Gibson could be in for a tough night on Roo or Tommy
Pretty bloody pleased with his year. I think Id call it a win.
Had his knockers early but it seemed he was dealing with a shoulder early and then an achilles.
I get the feeling he is a guy who needs a bit of confidence and is building over time. Should only improve from here. Good get. Hes quite nimble and agile and turns well and seems to always try and do the team things as well. I really have no idea who I would compare him too at this stage. I remember one poster here from WA likened him to a 'tall Milney'. He is certainly not a typical tall fwd. So will be interesting to watch him develop. This may sound crazy but from the little I have seen of old games of Peter Hudson he reminds me of him. Not a hulk by any stretch but more of a wiry rubber man.
I think many of us felt he had to hit the weights room harder and many commented he looked bigger when he came back. Some people go through the motions in the gym and just 'do the program' they are set without taking them seriously and some blokes really focus on it. The results on field are significant - just ask the Bombers or Port Power. Anyone who doubts what you can do in the gym knows nothing about sports.
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I bloody hope the coach sends TDL and Milera in there and locks the friggin door for 6 months.
I think many of us felt he had to hit the weights room harder and many commented he looked bigger when he came back. Some people go through the motions in the gym and just 'do the program' they are set without taking them seriously and some blokes really focus on it. The results on field are significant - just ask the Bombers or Port Power. Anyone who doubts what you can do in the gym knows nothing about sports.
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I bloody hope the coach sends TDL and Milera in there and locks the friggin door for 6 months.
Their size doesnt matter at all. Its their attack on the ball that matters.
2 - fitness - just getting up to AFL standard takes time - not just one preseason
3- AFL game time - I dont think we can overlook the huge jump in class from WAFL / VFL level to AFL. He had a few runs early , but now he is settled, fitter and playing some regular AFL standard game time.
All points to him delivering in the future - certainly as a very solid palyer - and maybe as elite.
I think many of us felt he had to hit the weights room harder and many commented he looked bigger when he came back. Some people go through the motions in the gym and just 'do the program' they are set without taking them seriously and some blokes really focus on it. The results on field are significant - just ask the Bombers or Port Power. Anyone who doubts what you can do in the gym knows nothing about sports.
p.s
I bloody hope the coach sends TDL and Milera in there and locks the friggin door for 6 months.
Their size doesnt matter at all. Its their attack on the ball that matters.
ok Scrappy Doo. have you ever played the game?
Its not 'size' that matters - but strength does and working hard in the gym isnt about being bigger but it makes you a heck of a lot stronger if you work at it properly.
if you can get stronger without putting on weight all the better. Its strength to weight ratio. but when you constantly get brushed out out a contest or knocked off the ball when you are running for it or people break your tackles easily - you need to get stronger. And you get stronger in the gym.
just "attacking the ball" isnt enough. If that were the case why bother training at all? If some feather attacked the ball like a kamikaze it wouldnt matter because a professionally trained hardened afl player would just knock them over.
Anyway - lets just do away with gyms entirely then and train players to "attack the ball" - lets see how your team performs.
I think many of us felt he had to hit the weights room harder and many commented he looked bigger when he came back. Some people go through the motions in the gym and just 'do the program' they are set without taking them seriously and some blokes really focus on it. The results on field are significant - just ask the Bombers or Port Power. Anyone who doubts what you can do in the gym knows nothing about sports.
p.s
I bloody hope the coach sends TDL and Milera in there and locks the friggin door for 6 months.
Their size doesnt matter at all. Its their attack on the ball that matters.
I always thought that Tommy has attacked the ball well, even in the earlier part of the year, but he got knocked off it too easily. We are not seeing that now. He holds his own in the marking contests much better now. That is the part that is relevant regarding his strength.
Hird... The unflushable one is now... just a turd...
Their size doesnt matter at all. Its their attack on the ball that matters.
I always thought that Tommy has attacked the ball well, even in the earlier part of the year, but he got knocked off it too easily. We are not seeing that now. He holds his own in the marking contests much better now. That is the part that is relevant regarding his strength.
