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Dal in The Age

Post: # 1364511Post SemperFidelis »

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/n ... 2qfwl.html

Good on him. I hope he stays. I know many bag him now but I think we need him for the Rebuild We Had to Have.


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Keep the Dal.
Just needs some support around him in the mids.
Mids are the last thing we can afford to lose.


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Re: Dal in The Age

Post: # 1364519Post Stephen Theodore »

Good read. Came from the heart.


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Stephen Theodore wrote:Good read. Came from the heart.
+1......all the talk about trading dal really pisses me off...bit like trying to sell or swap one of your kids to me......

...glad to hear his views and am truly sorry to hear that all the bullsh!t talk has actually affected him.....


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if i remember corectly in 2009 people were saying WCE shouldd trade Kerr cause they were in rebuild and he still had value to other clubs and the WCE wont be contesting ... blah blah blah ... they kept him and i dont think they regret it ... same should be said for Dal ... at this stage he is worth more to us


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st_Trav_ofWA wrote:if i remember corectly in 2009 people were saying WCE shouldd trade Kerr cause they were in rebuild and he still had value to other clubs and the WCE wont be contesting ... blah blah blah ... they kept him and i dont think they regret it ... same should be said for Dal ... at this stage he is worth more to us

Good comparison Trav - I have thought the exact same thing - and thats what i was sort of referring to above when I said he just needs some support.
Chuck another two good mids in there and Dal will thrive.

Slight change of topic - but the Eagles are interesting - I reckon they tanked in 2011 and then rose fast in 2012.
But it now looks like that was a bit of a false/short-lived rise because I expect them to go back down again next year.
Was like Worsfold's 'last roll of the dice try and sneak a flag in 2012 with Kerr and Glass and Cox' - wasnt a bad effort really.


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He's not untouchable when it comes to trading..... But we should be in a win/win situation

We are not desperate to offload him, so it would have to be an attractive offer.... Which we will win out long term


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BigMart wrote:He's not untouchable when it comes to trading..... But we should be in a win/win situation

We are not desperate to offload him, so it would have to be an attractive offer.... Which we will win out long term
One does not just trade good players because we can.

We have to find reasons and they need to want out.


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The reason to trade a player is

If they want out, yes....

If they have currency and are surplus

If we get an offer on them, which will lead to improvemt to the team, club.

Players... As we've seen, will do what's best in their interest.... So MUST the club.....


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Post: # 1364724Post Greg T »

Wouldn't want to trade him nor do we need too.
A great club man who actually wants to stay and will be invaluable in the building
of our newer players who respect him greatly.
We have more chances of attracting good players with these quality players at the club.


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Greg T wrote:Wouldn't want to trade him nor do we need too.
A great club man who actually wants to stay and will be invaluable in the building
of our newer players who respect him greatly.
We have more chances of attracting good players with these quality players at the club.
+1. Would make a good asset post-career as well.


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Post: # 1364732Post ralphsmith »

i would never in a million years trade dal santo

he is the most skillful stkilda player ive ever seen, anyone disagree?


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Post: # 1364740Post linmarnic »

Even in the cold hard world of commerce there are intangibles. Intangibles are the most difficult assets to place a value on. Dal, Roo, Lenny, Monty are intangible assets we can never afford to lose because they are invaluable to the club. if we trade them we will lose something that you just cant place a dollar value on.


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ralphsmith wrote:i would never in a million years trade dal santo

he is the most skillful stkilda player ive ever seen, anyone disagree?
Second behind Winmar, I'd suggest. When Winmar had the pill you sighed with relief, because you knew he'd do something constructive with it. Much as followers of Judd and Ablett must do.


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st_Trav_ofWA wrote:if i remember corectly in 2009 people were saying WCE shouldd trade Kerr cause they were in rebuild and he still had value to other clubs and the WCE wont be contesting ... blah blah blah ... they kept him and i dont think they regret it ... same should be said for Dal ... at this stage he is worth more to us

Kerr's done nothing for year because of injury.

Probably a bad example for the argument, although these types of things you can't predict expect that age is on the side of cutting our losses.

I'd prefer to keep Dal but who knows what the club will do....


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BigMart wrote:The reason to trade a player is

If they want out, yes....

If they have currency and are surplus

If we get an offer on them, which will lead to improvemt to the team, club.

Players... As we've seen, will do what's best in their interest.... So MUST the club.....
Agree.

Roo is an untouchable, but if we get a massively good offer for Dal you'd consider it. I reiterate massively good and over odds.


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am i the only one who read that and thought he is gone, if the right trade comes up and both partys are happy and saints can improve out of it no big deal. In same sense a win if he plays out at our club, a saints legend .


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BigMart wrote:The reason to trade a player is

If they want out, yes....

If they have currency and are surplus

If we get an offer on them, which will lead to improvemt to the team, club.

Players... As we've seen, will do what's best in their interest.... So MUST the club.....
What happened to: "great clubs don't lose great people"?


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Dal is a true champion of the club and one of the best blokes going around, the club would not even consider moving him !


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Post: # 1364824Post dragit »

bergholt wrote:
BigMart wrote:The reason to trade a player is

If they want out, yes....

If they have currency and are surplus

If we get an offer on them, which will lead to improvemt to the team, club.

Players... As we've seen, will do what's best in their interest.... So MUST the club.....
What happened to: "great clubs don't lose great people"?
We're not a great club remember?


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saintspremiers wrote:
BigMart wrote:The reason to trade a player is

If they want out, yes....

If they have currency and are surplus

If we get an offer on them, which will lead to improvemt to the team, club.

Players... As we've seen, will do what's best in their interest.... So MUST the club.....
Agree.

Roo is an untouchable, but if we get a massively good offer for Dal you'd consider it. I reiterate massively good and over odds.
I agree that in real life there is a balance.

If Dal wants to stay (which it sounds like he does) then only a straight top 20 pick would persuade me otherwise. I can't see any club offering this so why bother? From a purely practical point of view he is worth far more to the club than a minor upgrade of a pick like the Dogs did for Brian Lake for instance.

Also he'd have to be looking at getting more $$ if he stayed with us than if he went elsewhere. (Again similar to Lake). Dal will also be looking at his career post-footy. Not sure what his go is but I doubt that he'd be returning to Bendigo. He's a smart bloke and I can imagine him doing something professional - possibly going into sports admin (he has a Bach of commerce in that). My guess would be that staying with the Saints as a one-club player would most benefit him post-career.


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Lake took a significant pay cut to chase a flag apparently…


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Post: # 1364864Post skeptic »

Roo's not untouchable

If a club came to me and offered me two top 5 picks and a player, I'd trade

obviously that scenario is absurd but my point is everyone has their price


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Re: Dal in The Age

Post: # 1364865Post gringo »

dragit wrote:Lake took a significant pay cut to chase a flag apparently…

There have been rumours at the Dogs for years that he was one of the least popular people at the club. He is a notoriously prickly customer apparently with a healthy ego and will make every one pay his way despite being one of the best paid at the kennel. Not too many were upset to see the back of him I would think.

Dal is always out and about with Joey and the boys in St Kilda having coffee and hanging out- he's obviously not from the Brian Lake school of lone wolf deeds.


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