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Post: # 1301937Post saint6709 »

Will we get some answers to the great Stanley to full back or full forward debate this weekend??


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Post: # 1302003Post Con Gorozidis »

saint6709 wrote:Will we get some answers to the great Stanley to full back or full forward debate this weekend??
no idea but im interested!


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
saint6709 wrote:Will we get some answers to the great Stanley to full back or full forward debate this weekend??
no idea but im interested!
looks like its just you and me that are Con :?


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Lets hope sanity prevails


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Post: # 1302052Post Con Gorozidis »

BigMart wrote:Lets hope sanity prevails
Which is?


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A fullback, he ain't.


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Junction Oval wrote:A fullback, he ain't.
Not yet as he hasn't played a single game there.

Not sure why people are so deadset against trying it, I would prefer him forward too, but we have nothing to lose in trialling him down back, could give him some education for playing forward.

Injuries, he already gets them, so no greater risk there.


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Post: # 1302064Post matrix »

Yeah the guys massive.
Shouldn't have a prob one on one back there where his two biggest assets, speed and marking should come into play.


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U never know
That might want to waste that ability


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Post: # 1302086Post Con Gorozidis »

well at least andy demetriou will be happy the fans seem to take the nab cup so seriously .


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dragit wrote:
Junction Oval wrote:A fullback, he ain't.
Not yet as he hasn't played a single game there.

Not sure why people are so deadset against trying it, I would prefer him forward too, but we have nothing to lose in trialling him down back, could give him some education for playing forward.

Injuries, he already gets them, so no greater risk there.
Surely if you take a forward (particularly one who ended the season in form and has had a huge preseason) and put him in the back line, you do have something to lose - a forward.

Do you ever think before you speak or type?


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The Linton Street Flash wrote:
dragit wrote:
Junction Oval wrote:A fullback, he ain't.
Not yet as he hasn't played a single game there.

Not sure why people are so deadset against trying it, I would prefer him forward too, but we have nothing to lose in trialling him down back, could give him some education for playing forward.

Injuries, he already gets them, so no greater risk there.
Surely if you take a forward (particularly one who ended the season in form and has had a huge preseason) and put him in the back line, you do have something to lose - a forward.

Do you ever think before you speak or type?

I honestly think Stanley will struggle down back but im unsure you could say Rhys finished the year in form. He kicked 2 goals in his last 5 games he played for the season. Im pretty sure he will play forward tomorrow but if he is down back it wont really hurt as they practice games.


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Post: # 1302097Post saint6709 »

I am not sure stanley has ever really been in great form for the saints - he has been massive potential to this point - maybe the forward line doesn't actually suit him - a trial run in the backline in a practice series seems like a no brainer to me


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The Linton Street Flash wrote:
dragit wrote:
Junction Oval wrote:A fullback, he ain't.
Not yet as he hasn't played a single game there.

Not sure why people are so deadset against trying it, I would prefer him forward too, but we have nothing to lose in trialling him down back, could give him some education for playing forward.

Injuries, he already gets them, so no greater risk there.
Surely if you take a forward (particularly one who ended the season in form and has had a huge preseason) and put him in the back line, you do have something to lose - a forward.

Do you ever think before you speak or type?
Not sure what could be considered so thoughtless with my suggestion that it could be worth a try… I did say that I preferred him forward. Riewoldt, Koschitzke, Gehrig all spent plenty of time playing as defenders, which I am sure they would have learnt something from the experience.
As far as I am aware it is only rumour at this stage linking Stanley to FB, but as we appear to have about 5-6 tall forward options and no genuine tall backs I can see why it might be considered.


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NAB cup is the time to try things, not sure what the fuss is all about...


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SainterK wrote:NAB cup is the time to try things, not sure what the fuss is all about...
Personally, I just think it's unlikely to work - I'm not certain he has the footy smarts to be an A-grade fullback. The best he could be is as good as Zac, which is to say physically reasonable but caught out of position at times. That would be ok for us, but if there's a chance of him being a dominant forward then I'd rather we focus on that.

But you're right, a couple of preseason games isn't going to hurt much, except the kid's confidence.


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Am I the only one who thinks that Stanley just isn't likely to be up to it?


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Post: # 1302155Post wally »

I'm not sold on Staneley but there's been a few inconsistant forwards being good key position backs.Merritt,Croad,Tarrant


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Post: # 1302183Post BigMart »

Has Rhys even had a good run at it, after being considered old enough as a KPP??

He's what?? 22/3
200cm

Not sure he was supposed to dominate games as a fwd even by this stage??

Fraser played FB out of necessity at StK initially (2001), the ball was in the backline most of the time..... But judging by his career, it was 95%fwd, same with Nick who played 15 games at CHB before going to his rightful position at CHF.

Merritt is a Defender, turned fwd
Croad and tarrant were under achieving fwds who went back nearly ten years into their careers....

Stanley is a fwd Ruckman, like Petrie, Kosi, Tippett, Ryder, Vickery and co


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BigMart wrote:Has Rhys even had a good run at it, after being considered old enough as a KPP??

He's what?? 22/3
200cm

Not sure he was supposed to dominate games as a fwd even by this stage??

Fraser played FB out of necessity at StK initially (2001), the ball was in the backline most of the time..... But judging by his career, it was 95%fwd, same with Nick who played 15 games at CHB before going to his rightful position at CHF.

Merritt is a Defender, turned fwd
Croad and tarrant were under achieving fwds who went back nearly ten years into their careers....

Stanley is a fwd Ruckman, like Petrie, Kosi, Tippett, Ryder, Vickery and co
That may well be so big mart - but the problem is you can't fit 3 fwd ruckman into a team no matter how you do the maths and and key defender is hole in our list that needs to be filled


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BigMart wrote: Fraser played FB out of necessity
bingo… & so may rhys

b.t.w why is it again that you don't click that little quote button when you are directly answering them?
Not having a go, just curious as it can make things more difficult.


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I hate quoting! Don't see the need?!

It makes replies ridiculously long and scrolling through pages of crap to see short responses is absurd. I think it's unnecessary and should be eliminated. Just MO....

People IMO are smart enough to work out when a reply or comment is in relation to there question or post...

P66 pulls me up on this one a bit, he's not smart enough to work much out I suppose.... And that also is a reason I continue to refuse to quote (particularly replying to his commentary)


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dragit wrote:
BigMart wrote: Fraser played FB out of necessity
bingo… & so may rhys

b.t.w why is it again that you don't click that little quote button when you are directly answering them?
Not having a go, just curious as it can make things more difficult.
I'm with you. I find it annoying.


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Post: # 1302213Post BigMart »

Hopefully we are a better side to the one we had in 2001/2002

Which had Barry Hall/Fraser Gerhig and Nick Riewoldt

Possibly 3 of the 6 best power forwards of the era shoring up the defense......

Also

Give some credit to
Simpkin 191, Fisher 192, Gwilt 188, Dempster 191, Gilbert 194,Siposs 190
None of which are monsters, but better tall defenders than a Ruckman with 20 games experience.


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Post: # 1302222Post Con Gorozidis »

Im happy to just see Rhys running around on a football field.
Where he plays seems like a minor issue at his age.
try him everywhere but mainly - just get him on the park.


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Re: To FB or not to FB

Post: # 1302228Post bigcarl »

Armoooo wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that Stanley just isn't likely to be up to it?
Only one way to find out.


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