YOU'RE KIDDING YOURSELVES....
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YOU'RE KIDDING YOURSELVES....
I AM FILTHY. I was worried last week, and it NEVER improved. If you think we've done well- you are absolutely kidding yourselves.
We were promised "aggressive" trading with salary cap room, and we were nothing short of pathetic. AND THE CLUB'S POSTING ABOUT MITCH BROWN'S SITUATION IMPROVING WAS A FECKING DISGRACE.
Lee, Hickey and Denis Lane............. You have got to be gagging.
2 forwards (the least of our problems), and a 21 yr old ruckman.
Well done Saints............... well done.
Don't hit me with "draft picks"- we'll get flogs at picks 25 and beyond and everyone knows it. They come off rarely.
We were promised "aggressive" trading with salary cap room, and we were nothing short of pathetic. AND THE CLUB'S POSTING ABOUT MITCH BROWN'S SITUATION IMPROVING WAS A FECKING DISGRACE.
Lee, Hickey and Denis Lane............. You have got to be gagging.
2 forwards (the least of our problems), and a 21 yr old ruckman.
Well done Saints............... well done.
Don't hit me with "draft picks"- we'll get flogs at picks 25 and beyond and everyone knows it. They come off rarely.
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Say what you like, even though I think you are off the mark.
Just make sure you buy a membership for 2013 !!
Just make sure you buy a membership for 2013 !!
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I think we have done really well, I don't think Brown was worth more than what we offered. Now we can hopefully get him next year for free.
This year presents an opportunity for someone else and or anything we can get in the draft.
Saints did very well and for my money the last two years we have done well in the trade. If everyone fires and all we need is a FB then next years work is a lot easier isnt it. Go Saints!
This year presents an opportunity for someone else and or anything we can get in the draft.
Saints did very well and for my money the last two years we have done well in the trade. If everyone fires and all we need is a FB then next years work is a lot easier isnt it. Go Saints!
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Maybe we could use the real Cannavaro at FB next year the way we're going...cannavaro17 wrote:I think we have done really well, I don't think Brown was worth more than what we offered. Now we can hopefully get him next year for free.
This year presents an opportunity for someone else and or anything we can get in the draft.
Saints did very well and for my money the last two years we have done well in the trade. If everyone fires and all we need is a FB then next years work is a lot easier isnt it. Go Saints!
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Re: YOU'RE KIDDING YOURSELVES....
wow someone is angry seems like they just joined today after the trade system...
think we did pretty well for ourselves
and will continue that fashion in the draft
Remember there is still good players available at our picks - there for we will get a backmen that we need.... somewhere..
think we did pretty well for ourselves
and will continue that fashion in the draft
Remember there is still good players available at our picks - there for we will get a backmen that we need.... somewhere..
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That is providing he still is of worthy market value.cannavaro17 wrote:Now we can hopefully get him next year for free.
Who knows, perhaps there will be better defenders to choose from come trade period next year.
But the notion of waiting another whole year for a FB shytes me to tears.
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simmer down buddy.
I like the feeling that the club has turned a corner and is no longer sitting on the fence about whether we are "contending" or "rebuilding".
Also for the first time in about a decade we aren't up to our necks in salary cap- giving us room to go hard and recruit some gun kids in the years ahead.
With BJ gone and most of our top earners close to or on the vet's list, Im happy with where we are at.
At this stage when we aren't contending it would be totally foolish to do things like:
pay megabucks to keep BJ
pay over the odds just to fill a fb spot
not look at good young prospects like Lee and TDL, purely because we dont desperately need them in 2013
I say good on scotty and co.
He's laid down the law by not paying anyone over 600k, and made the gutsy call to plan for 5 years from now- not 2013.
I like the feeling that the club has turned a corner and is no longer sitting on the fence about whether we are "contending" or "rebuilding".
Also for the first time in about a decade we aren't up to our necks in salary cap- giving us room to go hard and recruit some gun kids in the years ahead.
With BJ gone and most of our top earners close to or on the vet's list, Im happy with where we are at.
At this stage when we aren't contending it would be totally foolish to do things like:
pay megabucks to keep BJ
pay over the odds just to fill a fb spot
not look at good young prospects like Lee and TDL, purely because we dont desperately need them in 2013
I say good on scotty and co.
He's laid down the law by not paying anyone over 600k, and made the gutsy call to plan for 5 years from now- not 2013.
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Pretty sure it says I joined a while back....Ralphy wrote:wow someone is angry seems like they just joined today after the trade system...
think we did pretty well for ourselves
and will continue that fashion in the draft
Remember there is still good players available at our picks - there for we will get a backmen that we need.... somewhere..
This is what annoys me about this club. Everyone lives in a pathetic little dream world.
It's days like this I wish I followed Geelong. Even Melbourne have showed us how to do it this trade season. We're a disgrace.
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Not to sure what you're expecting.... Talk about shooting your mouth off without seeing how things pan out.Simmo2 wrote:I AM FILTHY. I was worried last week, and it NEVER improved. If you think we've done well- you are absolutely kidding yourselves.
We were promised "aggressive" trading with salary cap room, and we were nothing short of pathetic. AND THE CLUB'S POSTING ABOUT MITCH BROWN'S SITUATION IMPROVING WAS A FECKING DISGRACE.
Lee, Hickey and Denis Lane............. You have got to be gagging.
2 forwards (the least of our problems), and a 21 yr old ruckman.
Well done Saints............... well done.
Don't hit me with "draft picks"- we'll get flogs at picks 25 and beyond and everyone knows it. They come off rarely.
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I was expecting A FULL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!! OF SOME DESCRIPTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!prwilkinson wrote:Not to sure what you're expecting.... Talk about shooting your mouth off without seeing how things pan out.Simmo2 wrote:I AM FILTHY. I was worried last week, and it NEVER improved. If you think we've done well- you are absolutely kidding yourselves.
We were promised "aggressive" trading with salary cap room, and we were nothing short of pathetic. AND THE CLUB'S POSTING ABOUT MITCH BROWN'S SITUATION IMPROVING WAS A FECKING DISGRACE.
Lee, Hickey and Denis Lane............. You have got to be gagging.
2 forwards (the least of our problems), and a 21 yr old ruckman.
Well done Saints............... well done.
Don't hit me with "draft picks"- we'll get flogs at picks 25 and beyond and everyone knows it. They come off rarely.
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Are you serious? Rodan, Dawes, Pedersen? f*** that!Simmo2 wrote:Pretty sure it says I joined a while back....Ralphy wrote:wow someone is angry seems like they just joined today after the trade system...
think we did pretty well for ourselves
and will continue that fashion in the draft
Remember there is still good players available at our picks - there for we will get a backmen that we need.... somewhere..
This is what annoys me about this club. Everyone lives in a pathetic little dream world.
It's days like this I wish I followed Geelong. Even Melbourne have showed us how to do it this trade season. We're a disgrace.
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I agree that the club posting that 'talks had progressed' was a bit strange. Got no issues otherwise with how our trade period turned out.
Strong draft position, our weakness was a lack of talls. We got 2 late first/second round talls in Lee and Hickey. And have 2 early second round picks.
Strong draft position, our weakness was a lack of talls. We got 2 late first/second round talls in Lee and Hickey. And have 2 early second round picks.
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Fk me, I'd have had all three over Trent Denis Lane!Grrrrr wrote:Are you serious? Rodan, Dawes, Pedersen? f*** that!Simmo2 wrote:Pretty sure it says I joined a while back....Ralphy wrote:wow someone is angry seems like they just joined today after the trade system...
think we did pretty well for ourselves
and will continue that fashion in the draft
Remember there is still good players available at our picks - there for we will get a backmen that we need.... somewhere..
This is what annoys me about this club. Everyone lives in a pathetic little dream world.
It's days like this I wish I followed Geelong. Even Melbourne have showed us how to do it this trade season. We're a disgrace.
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Don't give a toss about what the club posts re "talks progessing".
At the end of the day we either get the player or we don't.
This time we didn't.
At the end of the day we either get the player or we don't.
This time we didn't.
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I disagree. I agree we have rolled the dice and taken some risks. But I think it is way too early to call.Simmo2 wrote:I AM FILTHY. I was worried last week, and it NEVER improved. If you think we've done well- you are absolutely kidding yourselves.
We were promised "aggressive" trading with salary cap room, and we were nothing short of pathetic. AND THE CLUB'S POSTING ABOUT MITCH BROWN'S SITUATION IMPROVING WAS A FECKING DISGRACE.
Lee, Hickey and Denis Lane............. You have got to be gagging.
2 forwards (the least of our problems), and a 21 yr old ruckman.
Well done Saints............... well done.
Don't hit me with "draft picks"- we'll get flogs at picks 25 and beyond and everyone knows it. They come off rarely.
Tall fwds are our BIGGEST worry - Kosi is toast and Roos knees are a week to week (and weak) proposition. He is at the end of his career and Wilkesy is a 3rd banana fwd - not a star. So im happy with Tommy Lee.
We have obviously invested heavily in Hickey (high pick plus big $$) but if they rate him as a prospect I am prepared to back their judgement until shown otherwise.... But Hickey could be a gun.
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what's the word on the length and value of Hickey's deal? define big $$??
Reminding yourself we live in a world where Travis Cloke is worth nearly a million dollars.
Reminding yourself we live in a world where Travis Cloke is worth nearly a million dollars.
I bought a shirt from Target once.
It had a hard tag on it too.
I know how Dal feels.
It had a hard tag on it too.
I know how Dal feels.
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Doubt we were ever a chance of landing him.Dr Spaceman wrote:Don't give a toss about what the club posts re "talks progessing".
At the end of the day we either get the player or we don't.
This time we didn't.
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People who post thread headings in uppercase scream "IM FULL OF MYSELF AND MY OPINION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYONE'S!!!"
Sorry we dint get Pendelbury for Pick 114..Im sure they'll try harder next time
**Rolls eyes**
Sorry we dint get Pendelbury for Pick 114..Im sure they'll try harder next time
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Another SHEEPsaint66au wrote:People who post thread headings in uppercase scream "IM FULL OF MYSELF AND MY OPINION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYONE'S!!!"
Sorry we dint get Pendelbury for Pick 114..Im sure they'll try harder next time
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If being positive makes one a sheep then all I can say is "Click Go The Shears".
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duckduckduckgoose wrote:what's the word on the length and value of Hickey's deal? define big $$??
Reminding yourself we live in a world where Travis Cloke is worth nearly a million dollars.
Tragic Joke is PAID nearly a million dollars - there is a difference between what people are paid and what they are worth......
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True Believer wrote:duckduckduckgoose wrote:what's the word on the length and value of Hickey's deal? define big $$??
Reminding yourself we live in a world where Travis Cloke is worth nearly a million dollars.
Tragic Joke is PAID nearly a million dollars - there is a difference between what people are paid and what they are worth......
I doubt he is on nearly a million but at his best he is worth close to it. He is certainly worth more than BJ.
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This whole thing is not about rocking up and picking and choosing the player you want without any strings attached. We probably did as well as we could and with our picks, got a ruckman who looks more good than bad and has a lot of potential, and a handy forward, plus a few picks which may uncover some good young talent. Looking forward to 2013
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Its really not that bad.
For once we are forward thinking, yes we didn't get a defender.. yet.
But if we spent all our time trying to get a key back, then next trade period we would be spending all our time trying to get a key forward.
In truth, when a backman goes down, we can cover it.. just. (We will keep Blake on for this)
But if Riewoldt goes down, and another key tall. Then we are very very light on.
For once we are forward thinking, yes we didn't get a defender.. yet.
But if we spent all our time trying to get a key back, then next trade period we would be spending all our time trying to get a key forward.
In truth, when a backman goes down, we can cover it.. just. (We will keep Blake on for this)
But if Riewoldt goes down, and another key tall. Then we are very very light on.