Riewoldt and his goal-kicking
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Riewoldt and his goal-kicking
Have we not been critical enough of it?
I mention this because I am currently watching the Kangas game in round 23 of the season just past due to me missing it being abroad.
This aside in the first quarter the commentary team show Riewoldt practising before the game and make mention that he barely missed and he took a good 10-12 steps/paces as he led in to kick the ball. He also used the kicking motion that made him look like he could almost knee his own head.
So what does he do during the first quarter. 4 paces and a stab. Subsequent miss.
Why?
Riewoldt is a professional and should be sticking to the same routine. Not adjusting (putting it mildly) through the day.
It is the same as a fast bowler having a poor day. Does he change to bowling leg spin? No.
Also how and why is/was he allowed to continuously do this? As our big forward and one of the games' best forwards it is almost humorous that he constantly changes kicking styles considering the impact he has on the football team. Him kicking straight makes it a hell of alot easier for everyone else. Surely mixing and matching mid-game/mid-season is a detriment to his kicking but more importantly the team and it's result.
Thoughts?
I mention this because I am currently watching the Kangas game in round 23 of the season just past due to me missing it being abroad.
This aside in the first quarter the commentary team show Riewoldt practising before the game and make mention that he barely missed and he took a good 10-12 steps/paces as he led in to kick the ball. He also used the kicking motion that made him look like he could almost knee his own head.
So what does he do during the first quarter. 4 paces and a stab. Subsequent miss.
Why?
Riewoldt is a professional and should be sticking to the same routine. Not adjusting (putting it mildly) through the day.
It is the same as a fast bowler having a poor day. Does he change to bowling leg spin? No.
Also how and why is/was he allowed to continuously do this? As our big forward and one of the games' best forwards it is almost humorous that he constantly changes kicking styles considering the impact he has on the football team. Him kicking straight makes it a hell of alot easier for everyone else. Surely mixing and matching mid-game/mid-season is a detriment to his kicking but more importantly the team and it's result.
Thoughts?
Re: Riewoldt and his goal-kicking
Goal Kicking is quite easy, i would be happy to give him a technique.
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Re: Riewoldt and his goal-kicking
What issues did he have with his knee and how badly did it effect his kicking.
Did it occasionally flare up during the warm up which affected him during the game
or is he just a poor converter.
Did it occasionally flare up during the warm up which affected him during the game
or is he just a poor converter.
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glad we have new coach/coaches.
Lyon too stubborn on these issues or stupid!!
Lyon too stubborn on these issues or stupid!!
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Why don't we cut to the chase and just plonk you at full forward... Goal kicking woes over.clarky449 wrote:Goal Kicking is quite easy, i would be happy to give him a technique.
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Re: Riewoldt and his goal-kicking
We still have not debated the point yet.
Why was Riewoldt allowed and not scalded or lambasted for his constant changing of his kicking technique?
As captain of an AFL club what does that say?
It flies against all the 'following the structures' and 'keeping to plans' rhetoric that has been shoved down our throats...
Why was Riewoldt allowed and not scalded or lambasted for his constant changing of his kicking technique?
As captain of an AFL club what does that say?
It flies against all the 'following the structures' and 'keeping to plans' rhetoric that has been shoved down our throats...
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Re: Riewoldt and his goal-kicking
He often changes things after his altered techniques fail him. I think they probably tell him not to over think, just go back and slot it with out over analysis. Sometimes it works, sometimes it compounds. His real problem lies in the fact that he runs so much that he is spent when lining up and is in a state of recovery when lining up. It is always hard when you have to labour for every possession. Lockett and Gherig could get goals easier because they could do short burst leads and win the footy.
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Re: Riewoldt and his goal-kicking
If Travis Cloke can do it, Riewoldt can
Your right, it's all about consistency of Technique
Hopefully this pivotal skill was and is still worked upon tirelessly throughout the preseason
Flaws should be worked upon, regardless of stature or age
At the moment he is probably kicking about 5/10 shots at goal, If he could get to 7/10 it would be a huge improvement
Your right, it's all about consistency of Technique
Hopefully this pivotal skill was and is still worked upon tirelessly throughout the preseason
Flaws should be worked upon, regardless of stature or age
At the moment he is probably kicking about 5/10 shots at goal, If he could get to 7/10 it would be a huge improvement
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ROO was a broken man last year - mentally and physically!
I think taking the captaincy and some pressure off him will work two fold - one he can concentrate on his own game and not have to worry about everyone else. Hopefully the lessoning of the pressure valve will allow him to improve his kicking which in turn will improve the team outputs.
I think taking the captaincy and some pressure off him will work two fold - one he can concentrate on his own game and not have to worry about everyone else. Hopefully the lessoning of the pressure valve will allow him to improve his kicking which in turn will improve the team outputs.
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I have been thinking the same thing for a while.dragit wrote:Why don't we cut to the chase and just plonk you at full forward... Goal kicking woes over.clarky449 wrote:Goal Kicking is quite easy, i would be happy to give him a technique.
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I take it Clarkey that you are 6'4" and quite fast? Blonde as well?
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lambasted?? That's hilarious...The Redeemer wrote:We still have not debated the point yet.
Why was Riewoldt allowed and not scalded or lambasted for his constant changing of his kicking technique?
As captain of an AFL club what does that say?
It flies against all the 'following the structures' and 'keeping to plans' rhetoric that has been shoved down our throats...
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By Roo's standards he had a horrible year but to say he was a broken man is a stretch and is a bit silly. As far as I could see, the bloke was running around, he had two arms and two legs. Lets see how he responds this year.WinnersOnly wrote:ROO was a broken man last year - mentally and physically!
I think taking the captaincy and some pressure off him will work two fold - one he can concentrate on his own game and not have to worry about everyone else. Hopefully the lessoning of the pressure valve will allow him to improve his kicking which in turn will improve the team outputs.
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Re: Riewoldt and his goal-kicking
50% of it is in his head imo
OVER thinking it
that stupid action of kneeing himself in the head when he kicks is so un natural its not funny
find the natural, find the comfy
then find the radar
and dont over think it for f*** sake
if you have to walk in thinking each step over and over then thats not natural
walk in (counting steps) 1 2 3 4 5 6 , head down hands straight walk towards the goal drop the ball now dont lean back head over in line with knee follw thru
ffs
too much thinking too much can go wrong
find the natural
just do it then work on that
its only the radar thats out, if the action looked shocking but the radar got them thru no one would care!
relax nick
ffs
OVER thinking it
that stupid action of kneeing himself in the head when he kicks is so un natural its not funny
find the natural, find the comfy
then find the radar
and dont over think it for f*** sake
if you have to walk in thinking each step over and over then thats not natural
walk in (counting steps) 1 2 3 4 5 6 , head down hands straight walk towards the goal drop the ball now dont lean back head over in line with knee follw thru
ffs
too much thinking too much can go wrong
find the natural
just do it then work on that
its only the radar thats out, if the action looked shocking but the radar got them thru no one would care!
relax nick
ffs
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Re: Riewoldt and his goal-kicking
Did the fact that the whole world saw a picture of his schlong break him......nothing for him to be ashamed of in that photo...SaintPav wrote:By Roo's standards he had a horrible year but to say he was a broken man is a stretch and is a bit silly. As far as I could see, the bloke was running around, he had two arms and two legs. Lets see how he responds this year.WinnersOnly wrote:ROO was a broken man last year - mentally and physically!
I think taking the captaincy and some pressure off him will work two fold - one he can concentrate on his own game and not have to worry about everyone else. Hopefully the lessoning of the pressure valve will allow him to improve his kicking which in turn will improve the team outputs.
As for Nicky Dal....his nickname should be shorty or something similar...if Roo was broken Dal should have been shattered but he wasn't....
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Re: Riewoldt and his goal-kicking
I would tend to agree that it's a mental issue for Nick. When he first started he was a good kick for goal.Sick Nal Danto wrote:If Travis Cloke can do it, Riewoldt can
At the moment he is probably kicking about 5/10 shots at goal, If he could get to 7/10 it would be a huge improvement
I still remember him dominating the practice match where Tommy W debuted a few years ago. (Sadly that was pretty much Tommy's only debut - enough said...) Anyway, Nick's performance that arvo' included fairly flawless kcking for goal.
Even now, his field kicking remains very good.
So for me, he can do it, just like Tragic Joke showed he can do it.
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Re: Riewoldt and his goal-kicking
I am a hilarious kind of guy my main man.SaintPav wrote:lambasted?? That's hilarious...The Redeemer wrote:We still have not debated the point yet.
Why was Riewoldt allowed and not scalded or lambasted for his constant changing of his kicking technique?
As captain of an AFL club what does that say?
It flies against all the 'following the structures' and 'keeping to plans' rhetoric that has been shoved down our throats...
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6ft and pretty slow. Just a dead eye dick thanks to a technique i worked on.borderbarry wrote:I take it Clarkey that you are 6'4" and quite fast? Blonde as well?
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