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umpires do cheat
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umpires do cheat
you only have to look at their treatment tonight of schneids and milney....disgraceful actually.... ![Evil or Very Mad :evil:](./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif)
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.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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not saying we didn't...only saying they were biased towards schneids...who hasn't been able to live down the day he clapped an umpire...and milne...who copped the rough end of the pineapple all night....there were frees there for both of them..not paid..and milne got pinged for things others got away with all night....the umpires bias against them was pretty obvious...and that is cheating.....imhfo...Toy Saint wrote:we got a pretty fair go tonight
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I think it's obvious there is a preconceived approach to umpiring Milne and Schneider.
Milne gets pinged for holding the ball in situations that generally are either 'play on' for pretty much every other player in the comp, or even an infringement to that player.
The preconceived part seems to be that he always tries to take the opposition on, so if he ever gets caught you have to ping him because he's had prior opportunity.
It's very frsutrating. The most horrible example of it was in the 09 Grand Final. A terribly umpired game on the whole, but that decision against Milne to Ablett was just disgusting and as close to a game changer as I've ever seen.
And as for Schneider, there's surely no doubt that he gets treated differently.
It's almost comical really.
Not sure if it's actually cheating though, or just incompetence.
Milne gets pinged for holding the ball in situations that generally are either 'play on' for pretty much every other player in the comp, or even an infringement to that player.
The preconceived part seems to be that he always tries to take the opposition on, so if he ever gets caught you have to ping him because he's had prior opportunity.
It's very frsutrating. The most horrible example of it was in the 09 Grand Final. A terribly umpired game on the whole, but that decision against Milne to Ablett was just disgusting and as close to a game changer as I've ever seen.
And as for Schneider, there's surely no doubt that he gets treated differently.
It's almost comical really.
Not sure if it's actually cheating though, or just incompetence.
Or even watching the game with 2 eyes open. Milne tries to beat tackles and it is worth it because when he does he kicks a goal but when he doesnt its a free against. I reckon he is given leeway by the coach to do it.Johnny Member wrote:I think it's obvious there is a preconceived approach to umpiring Milne and Schneider.
Milne gets pinged for holding the ball in situations that generally are either 'play on' for pretty much every other player in the comp, or even an infringement to that player.
The preconceived part seems to be that he always tries to take the opposition on, so if he ever gets caught you have to ping him because he's had prior opportunity.
It's very frsutrating. The most horrible example of it was in the 09 Grand Final. A terribly umpired game on the whole, but that decision against Milne to Ablett was just disgusting and as close to a game changer as I've ever seen.
And as for Schneider, there's surely no doubt that he gets treated differently.
It's almost comical really.
Not sure if it's actually cheating though, or just incompetence.
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He does try to break tackles. Plenty of players do. But he doesn't try to break tackles every single time. He doesn't try to take players on every single time.plugger66 wrote:Or even watching the game with 2 eyes open. Milne tries to beat tackles and it is worth it because when he does he kicks a goal but when he doesnt its a free against. I reckon he is given leeway by the coach to do it.Johnny Member wrote:I think it's obvious there is a preconceived approach to umpiring Milne and Schneider.
Milne gets pinged for holding the ball in situations that generally are either 'play on' for pretty much every other player in the comp, or even an infringement to that player.
The preconceived part seems to be that he always tries to take the opposition on, so if he ever gets caught you have to ping him because he's had prior opportunity.
It's very frsutrating. The most horrible example of it was in the 09 Grand Final. A terribly umpired game on the whole, but that decision against Milne to Ablett was just disgusting and as close to a game changer as I've ever seen.
And as for Schneider, there's surely no doubt that he gets treated differently.
It's almost comical really.
Not sure if it's actually cheating though, or just incompetence.
He used to (probably 3-4 years ago), and I believe the umpires still take this into account every time he gets it.
They actually don't make a decision on the situation, but use a preconceived notion of what they believe Milne to be like to make their decisions.
It's called incompetence.
They do it with other certain players too.
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Then those umpires would get dropped, surely.Johnny Member wrote:He does try to break tackles. Plenty of players do. But he doesn't try to break tackles every single time. He doesn't try to take players on every single time.plugger66 wrote:Or even watching the game with 2 eyes open. Milne tries to beat tackles and it is worth it because when he does he kicks a goal but when he doesnt its a free against. I reckon he is given leeway by the coach to do it.Johnny Member wrote:I think it's obvious there is a preconceived approach to umpiring Milne and Schneider.
Milne gets pinged for holding the ball in situations that generally are either 'play on' for pretty much every other player in the comp, or even an infringement to that player.
The preconceived part seems to be that he always tries to take the opposition on, so if he ever gets caught you have to ping him because he's had prior opportunity.
It's very frsutrating. The most horrible example of it was in the 09 Grand Final. A terribly umpired game on the whole, but that decision against Milne to Ablett was just disgusting and as close to a game changer as I've ever seen.
And as for Schneider, there's surely no doubt that he gets treated differently.
It's almost comical really.
Not sure if it's actually cheating though, or just incompetence.
He used to (probably 3-4 years ago), and I believe the umpires still take this into account every time he gets it.
They actually don't make a decision on the situation, but use a preconceived notion of what they believe Milne to be like to make their decisions.
It's called incompetence.
They do it with other players too.
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plugger66 wrote:Then those umpires would get dropped, surely.Johnny Member wrote:He does try to break tackles. Plenty of players do. But he doesn't try to break tackles every single time. He doesn't try to take players on every single time.plugger66 wrote:Or even watching the game with 2 eyes open. Milne tries to beat tackles and it is worth it because when he does he kicks a goal but when he doesnt its a free against. I reckon he is given leeway by the coach to do it.Johnny Member wrote:I think it's obvious there is a preconceived approach to umpiring Milne and Schneider.
Milne gets pinged for holding the ball in situations that generally are either 'play on' for pretty much every other player in the comp, or even an infringement to that player.
The preconceived part seems to be that he always tries to take the opposition on, so if he ever gets caught you have to ping him because he's had prior opportunity.
It's very frsutrating. The most horrible example of it was in the 09 Grand Final. A terribly umpired game on the whole, but that decision against Milne to Ablett was just disgusting and as close to a game changer as I've ever seen.
And as for Schneider, there's surely no doubt that he gets treated differently.
It's almost comical really.
Not sure if it's actually cheating though, or just incompetence.
He used to (probably 3-4 years ago), and I believe the umpires still take this into account every time he gets it.
They actually don't make a decision on the situation, but use a preconceived notion of what they believe Milne to be like to make their decisions.
It's called incompetence.
They do it with other players too.
You'd think so wouldn't you.
But when the people making the rules, are the same ones rating themselves, it's no surprise that we're told each week that they only make 3.1 mistakes every month and that they're pretty much perfect and everyone involved is doing a wonderful job.
Imagine being able to write your own KPIs at work, make your own rules at work, then present your own results to yourself each month.
I reckon my stats would prove that I'm doing a really good job.
Sorry who makes the rules. I dont think the umpires make the rules or the umpires boss. You have got that wrong. And pretty sure an AFL coach tell the players their mistakes as does the umpires coach. Have no idea what you are on about.Johnny Member wrote:plugger66 wrote:Then those umpires would get dropped, surely.Johnny Member wrote:He does try to break tackles. Plenty of players do. But he doesn't try to break tackles every single time. He doesn't try to take players on every single time.plugger66 wrote:Or even watching the game with 2 eyes open. Milne tries to beat tackles and it is worth it because when he does he kicks a goal but when he doesnt its a free against. I reckon he is given leeway by the coach to do it.Johnny Member wrote:I think it's obvious there is a preconceived approach to umpiring Milne and Schneider.
Milne gets pinged for holding the ball in situations that generally are either 'play on' for pretty much every other player in the comp, or even an infringement to that player.
The preconceived part seems to be that he always tries to take the opposition on, so if he ever gets caught you have to ping him because he's had prior opportunity.
It's very frsutrating. The most horrible example of it was in the 09 Grand Final. A terribly umpired game on the whole, but that decision against Milne to Ablett was just disgusting and as close to a game changer as I've ever seen.
And as for Schneider, there's surely no doubt that he gets treated differently.
It's almost comical really.
Not sure if it's actually cheating though, or just incompetence.
He used to (probably 3-4 years ago), and I believe the umpires still take this into account every time he gets it.
They actually don't make a decision on the situation, but use a preconceived notion of what they believe Milne to be like to make their decisions.
It's called incompetence.
They do it with other players too.
You'd think so wouldn't you.
But when the people making the rules, are the same ones rating themselves, it's no surprise that we're told each week that they only make 3.1 mistakes every month and that they're pretty much perfect and everyone involved is doing a wonderful job.
Imagine being able to write your own KPIs at work, make your own rules at work, then present your own results to yourself each month.
I reckon my stats would prove that I'm doing a really good job.
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plugger66 wrote: Sorry who makes the rules. I dont think the umpires make the rules or the umpires boss. You have got that wrong. And pretty sure an AFL coach tell the players their mistakes as does the umpires coach. Have no idea what you are on about.
I'm talking about the AFL. They run everything. They'll lie and tell everyone that these other departments are independant and they have no input into them, but they run them.
And like everything they do, they enure that the 'idiot public drones' (their view of the fans) are fed garbage to believe that everything they do is perfect and beyond reproach.
Umpiring is the same. They don't want umpiring stats looking bad. They don't want umpires being dropped. Because it would show failure and imcompetence.
So they don't allow it to happen. They do what they always do, and make s*** up to ensure they have proof and evidence that everything is just wonderful.
It's nothing new. And not really an argument I'm interested in continuing. Everyone knows it's the case anyway.
Typical crap made up rubbish. How do you know umpires arent dropped. You wouldnt have a clue. If I felt the way you obvoiusly do id go and find another sport. Maybe one that isnt as well run and then you can come back when you realise this is well run.Johnny Member wrote:plugger66 wrote: Sorry who makes the rules. I dont think the umpires make the rules or the umpires boss. You have got that wrong. And pretty sure an AFL coach tell the players their mistakes as does the umpires coach. Have no idea what you are on about.
I'm talking about the AFL. They run everything. They'll lie and tell everyone that these other departments are independant and they have no input into them, but they run them.
And like everything they do, they enure that the 'idiot public drones' (their view of the fans) are fed garbage to believe that everything they do is perfect and beyond reproach.
Umpiring is the same. They don't want umpiring stats looking bad. They don't want umpires being dropped. Because it would show failure and imcompetence.
So they don't allow it to happen. They do what they always do, and make s*** up to ensure they have proof and evidence that everything is just wonderful.
It's nothing new. And not really an argument I'm interested in continuing. Everyone knows it's the case anyway.
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So gullible that its amusing.plugger66 wrote:Typical crap made up rubbish. How do you know umpires arent dropped. You wouldnt have a clue. If I felt the way you obvoiusly do id go and find another sport. Maybe one that isnt as well run and then you can come back when you realise this is well run.Johnny Member wrote:plugger66 wrote: Sorry who makes the rules. I dont think the umpires make the rules or the umpires boss. You have got that wrong. And pretty sure an AFL coach tell the players their mistakes as does the umpires coach. Have no idea what you are on about.
I'm talking about the AFL. They run everything. They'll lie and tell everyone that these other departments are independant and they have no input into them, but they run them.
And like everything they do, they enure that the 'idiot public drones' (their view of the fans) are fed garbage to believe that everything they do is perfect and beyond reproach.
Umpiring is the same. They don't want umpiring stats looking bad. They don't want umpires being dropped. Because it would show failure and imcompetence.
So they don't allow it to happen. They do what they always do, and make s*** up to ensure they have proof and evidence that everything is just wonderful.
It's nothing new. And not really an argument I'm interested in continuing. Everyone knows it's the case anyway.
I don't know too many people that think they do a good job.
The buddy arc is great example of how the umpires dept have twisted rules that were originally designed to be egalitarian.
Milne and Schneider do have a different set of rules imo, they aren't the only ones though.
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