Jones is the most underrated player in the AFL
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Remember when those Collingwood dogs ganged up on him early last year. It knocked his confidence a bit imo, but now he has it back.
One of the less savoury things I've seen on a football field ... on a par with their low-rent coach accusing a St Kilda favourite of rape in front of a national TV audience.
Should we return the favour next week, targetting perhaps Swan or Pendlebury or Ball?
Our would that make us as bad as them?
One of the less savoury things I've seen on a football field ... on a par with their low-rent coach accusing a St Kilda favourite of rape in front of a national TV audience.
Should we return the favour next week, targetting perhaps Swan or Pendlebury or Ball?
Our would that make us as bad as them?
Old Mate wrote:His output has steadily declined since the 2009 season. Tonight he was back to his 2009 form.
Declined until about 8 weeks ago. Has been very good in our resurgence. Outstanding tonight.
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I'm going to disagree with this
he presents the ultimate conumdrum as a footballer
He works hard, wins heaps of ball, is fast, tackles well, often negates his opponent
but
his disposal by foot is so poor... he really doesn't hurt the opposition enough.
He really needs games of 20+ possessions to appear damaging
IMO wasn't nearly damaging enough given the amount of ball he got tonight
Example... 3rd quarter
Both Jones and Mzungu got 12 possessions in the third... who wasthe damaging player?
I think the opposition let him run free coz they know he won't hurt you too much
still a good performance by him though
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he presents the ultimate conumdrum as a footballer
He works hard, wins heaps of ball, is fast, tackles well, often negates his opponent
but
his disposal by foot is so poor... he really doesn't hurt the opposition enough.
He really needs games of 20+ possessions to appear damaging
IMO wasn't nearly damaging enough given the amount of ball he got tonight
Example... 3rd quarter
Both Jones and Mzungu got 12 possessions in the third... who wasthe damaging player?
I think the opposition let him run free coz they know he won't hurt you too much
still a good performance by him though
beat the pants off Hill
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curiously...
my position on this is clear but I'm interested
Give me some legitimate potential trades for Clint Jones
If you wanted to trade him for a pick, what round is he worth?
If he decided to quit for money, what player/s would constitute an even swap
I want to see what players others rank him beside
my position on this is clear but I'm interested
Give me some legitimate potential trades for Clint Jones
If you wanted to trade him for a pick, what round is he worth?
If he decided to quit for money, what player/s would constitute an even swap
I want to see what players others rank him beside
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Daisy Thomas ????????????????????? !!bigcarl wrote:Remember when those Collingwood dogs ganged up on him early last year. It knocked his confidence a bit imo, but now he has it back.
One of the less savoury things I've seen on a football field ... on a par with their low-rent coach accusing a St Kilda favourite of rape in front of a national TV audience.
Should we return the favour next week, targetting perhaps Swan or Pendlebury or Ball?
Our would that make us as bad as them?
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Bakes on Ball usually, isn't it?bigcarl wrote:Should we return the favour next week, targetting perhaps Swan or Pendlebury or Ball?
Teams used to be able to let Swan rack up 30 possies a game with no impact, but that's changed the last 12 months...Pendles too.
Collingwood know what they're doing, roughing Jones up, as he's the best tagger in the comp. Is an A-grade tagger = an a-grade midfielder? Probably not on paper, but bloody close. So, I'd have to say a trade for Jones would cost the opposition a first rounder easy.
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I don't think you can compare 29 outside possessions with what Jones gives, he gets the ball moving forward through traffic and in no space. It is a really difficult job and the guys that do it well are worth more than an outside mid. Goddard gets 29 off the backline with quite a bit of contested ball in there but he also gets a lot of loose ball. Lenny is a coal face player but can also get plenty of outside ball as well. Lenny's inside disposal is often messy but once released you know you will see him lay an instant tackle of quick handball out. 29 possessions for Jones are going to come mostly on top of a stopping job often with screens set on him by the opposition mids that knock the stuffing out of him. I stand by my comment very underrated, even by our fans.
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CJ's speed, courage and willingness have won the hearts of many on here who seem to rate effort far more highly than they do skill. Some have him in their top 5 most weeks, which is silly: but not as silly as the suggestion that, if he wasn't required to play as a tagger he'd be able to play like Dane Swan!!
Skeptic is right: CJ's ball skills are barely of VFL standard. That's why he couldn't break into AFL until he was relatively old. He was lucky to find a sympathetic coach with a game plan that suits him.
Skeptic is right: CJ's ball skills are barely of VFL standard. That's why he couldn't break into AFL until he was relatively old. He was lucky to find a sympathetic coach with a game plan that suits him.
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