Ross is contracted for next year so...

iwantmeseats · Wed 03 Aug 2011 9:32pm

why the hell did Firstly Caro mention Melbourne should look at him, THEN just now Gerard Whately on AFL360 suggested exactly the same thing. WTF?

Just seems very weird to me, must know something we dont because its not normal. Coaches, very rarely, just dont get poached under contract. hmmm...

Eastern · Post: # 1114827Post **Eastern** » Wed 03 Aug 2011 9:39pm

Caro & Whatley are both taking the "confetti"approach to the Melbourne story. Keep throwing names around like confetti (no matter how rediculous) and hope that one of the names is the chosen one. Then they can say "I told you so" !!

jays · Post: # 1114829Post **jays** » Wed 03 Aug 2011 9:42pm

they have no idea

Eastern · Post: # 1114832Post **Eastern** » Wed 03 Aug 2011 9:46pm

jays wrote:they have no idea

True, but they have got to write/say something whether it factual or not (a bit like the AFL in the past 24-48 hours) !!

joffaboy · Post: # 1114833Post **joffaboy** » Wed 03 Aug 2011 9:47pm

Well I hope both Lyon and Melbourne have some money to cover the breach of contract action.

He is contracted until 2012.

Fkn idiots

Eastern · Post: # 1114834Post **Eastern** » Wed 03 Aug 2011 9:49pm

joffaboy wrote:Well I hope both Lyon and Melbourne have some money to cover the breach of contract action.

He is contracted until 2012.

Fkn idiots

I'd like to think that Ross is above that sort of behaviour !!

joffaboy · Post: # 1114837Post **joffaboy** » Wed 03 Aug 2011 9:51pm

Eastern wrote:
joffaboy wrote:Well I hope both Lyon and Melbourne have some money to cover the breach of contract action.

He is contracted until 2012.

Fkn idiots
I'd like to think that Ross is above that sort of behaviour !!

Nobody is above antything when it comes to money.

How ludicrious would Melbourne look by wasting up to a million dollars on a damages action against them?

goddardisgod · Wed 03 Aug 2011 9:55pm

Think Lyon would be very good with the calibre of young players on the Melbourne list.

But he's ours. Stay the feck away.

Old Mate · Post: # 1114840Post **Old Mate** » Wed 03 Aug 2011 10:01pm

Why would he go to that rabble?

Dr Spaceman · Wed 03 Aug 2011 10:01pm

goddardisgod wrote:Think Lyon would be very good with the calibre of young players on the Melbourne list.

But a lot of people on here reckon he's no good at developing young players

Old Mate · Post: # 1114843Post **Old Mate** » Wed 03 Aug 2011 10:04pm

Dr Spaceman wrote:
goddardisgod wrote:Think Lyon would be very good with the calibre of young players on the Melbourne list.
But a lot of people on here reckon he's no good at developing young players

Nah hes just conservative. Can work both ways imo. Ross imo is in the top few coaches going around however hes not perfect!

goddardisgod · Wed 03 Aug 2011 10:11pm

Old Mate wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:
goddardisgod wrote:Think Lyon would be very good with the calibre of young players on the Melbourne list.
But a lot of people on here reckon he's no good at developing young players
Nah hes just conservative. Can work both ways imo. Ross imo is in the top few coaches going around however hes not perfect!

More to the point, he took our club, which had pretty poor gameplan, and was very immature, plus filled with young guns (Joey, Roo, Dal), and turned it into a mature, feared club vying for premierships.

Old Mate · Post: # 1114854Post **Old Mate** » Wed 03 Aug 2011 10:18pm

goddardisgod wrote:
Old Mate wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:
goddardisgod wrote:Think Lyon would be very good with the calibre of young players on the Melbourne list.
But a lot of people on here reckon he's no good at developing young players
Nah hes just conservative. Can work both ways imo. Ross imo is in the top few coaches going around however hes not perfect!
More to the point, he took our club, which had pretty poor gameplan, and was very immature, plus filled with young guns (Joey, Roo, Dal), and turned it into a mature, feared club vying for premierships.

Areed like i said one of the best coaches going around

Junction Oval · Wed 03 Aug 2011 10:19pm

Caro and Whately are just putting up stories that gain attention - that's what they are paid to do.

However, instead of being "factual," in today's world they are passed off as "opinion" pieces

It must be dreadful having to work and live in this "fishbowl" with is half-truth and made-up stories.

Mr Magic · Post: # 1114876Post **Mr Magic** » Wed 03 Aug 2011 10:39pm

You all sure they weren't talking abot Gary Lyon?

joffaboy · Post: # 1114884Post **joffaboy** » Wed 03 Aug 2011 10:43pm

Mr Magic wrote:You all sure they weren't talking abot Gary Lyon?

Unless Gary has changed his name to Ross.

Yes. Didn't hear Whately, but heard Caro on AW

Junction Oval · Wed 03 Aug 2011 10:44pm

Mr Magic commented :

You all sure they weren't talking abot Gary Lyon?

He would make a dreadful coach - far too emotional and spontaneously reactive. I think that he learnt that when he coached the International side in Ireland a couple of years ago, despite it being a "holiday" atmosphere.

Dan Warna · Wed 03 Aug 2011 10:49pm

wce didn't sue when collingwood poached malthouse, he had a year to run on his contract.

Bomber thompson was going to 'sit out for a bit' before running off to essendon.

North got stooged when their 'father figure' denis pagan took the dollars at carlton despite having a year to run there i think.

Coach stealing is a art form practiced for generations.

Ironic how collingwood are talking ethics and morals regarding melbourne tanking and coach stealing and GWS signing players.

Malthouse, ball, buckley, Anthony Rocca, Tony Lockett Stevens of Port and their attempts to jerry rig the draft for ball and nick stevens etc.

Ethics? only when collingwood are...wait what?

bergholt · Post: # 1114894Post **bergholt** » Wed 03 Aug 2011 10:53pm

Dan Warna wrote:wce didn't sue when collingwood poached malthouse, he had a year to run on his contract.

yeah, no idea what you'd sue for. just like any employee, the contract has particular notice periods and termination clauses in it, as long as the coach adheres to those he's home free. maybe even non-compete clauses, but i think they've been generally shown to be unenforceable.

Thinline · Post: # 1114901Post **Thinline** » Wed 03 Aug 2011 11:02pm

You would sue the departing coach for breach of contract, but the coach would ask the club to which he was going to indemnify the value of those damages (which would be the value left in the conrtact.

That works find for most.

Thing is with a bloke like Malthouse, you could probably mount an argument that his value transcends that of the contract alone: that he's a magnet for sponsors and members etc.

Thinking aloud, that is...

bobmurray · Wed 03 Aug 2011 11:18pm

Dr Spaceman wrote:
goddardisgod wrote:Think Lyon would be very good with the calibre of young players on the Melbourne list.
But a lot of people on here reckon he's no good at developing young players

Why would anyone say that

Teflon · Post: # 1114910Post **Teflon** » Wed 03 Aug 2011 11:23pm

We love Ross
Ross loves us

Just make the friggen call and sign him.

clarky449 · Wed 03 Aug 2011 11:38pm

Teflon wrote:We love Ross
Ross loves us
Just make the friggen call and sign him.

Does he?

Spinner · Post: # 1114920Post **Spinner** » Wed 03 Aug 2011 11:38pm

I think it has merit..

Caro was the one pushing how we were keen to start contract negotiations... What two weeks ago...

Now she is stating that he is a possibility.

I reckon she knows something we dont. It's not confetti. It's deliberate, especially given he is contracted.

That was my feel on it anyways.

goodie · Post: # 1114921Post **goodie** » Wed 03 Aug 2011 11:42pm

Great minds think alike. Stands to reason poor ones do as well