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I don't think his performance was as great as what it is being made out to be. I think he did ok, that is all. Without looking too closely, he got beaten on a lead at least once (but that's ok) but got caught under a high ball once again which he does all too often. If I was Zac's opponent, I would instruct my forawards to be ahead of me, make a lead or baulk to go forward but have my teammates kick over my head so I can run back and take the mark. Easier said then done but worth trying from what I've seen.
I feel that a game against a struggling side, with average tall forwards, poor delivery into Port's forward line and lack of delivery has helped Zac get some kudos this week. Not too mention some very good performances by saints players assisting in defence and controlling the midfield which may have helped.
For most of the match, Schultz who kicked 7 goals last week. The previous week he beat bigtime Petrie an inform player who was supposedly going to monster him.
You should judge the quality of a FB when they're one on one with their opponent and Zac is terrible when he's left one out. He gets plenty of chop outs from Fisher, Goddard, Gwilt and Gilbert. And apart from the odd spoil, he offers us nothing. No run, doesn't take contested marks, zilch and consistently gives away stupid free kicks. Seriously overrated by some on here.
MCG-Unit wrote:For most of the match, Schultz who kicked 7 goals last week. The previous week he beat bigtime Petrie an inform player who was supposedly going to monster him. :shock:
Schultz kicked 7 against The Bears. Petrie was triple teamed by us last week.
Old Mate wrote:You should judge the quality of a FB when they're one on one with their opponent and Zac is terrible when he's left one out. He gets plenty of chop outs from Fisher, Goddard, Gwilt and Gilbert. And apart from the odd spoil, he offers us nothing. No run, doesn't take contested marks, zilch and consistently gives away stupid free kicks. Seriously overrated by some on here.
MCG-Unit wrote:For most of the match, Schultz who kicked 7 goals last week. The previous week he beat bigtime Petrie an inform player who was supposedly going to monster him.
Schultz kicked 7 against The Bears. Petrie was triple teamed by us last week.
Schultz has had a good year - give some credit..........
So when Riewoldt is triple teamed - why does the FB often get credit for 'holding Riewoldt' and folks say he is out of form
MCG-Unit wrote:For most of the match, Schultz who kicked 7 goals last week. The previous week he beat bigtime Petrie an inform player who was supposedly going to monster him. :shock:
Schultz kicked 7 against The Bears. Petrie was triple teamed by us last week.
Schultz has had a good year - give some credit..........
So when Riewoldt is triple teamed - why does the FB often get credit for 'holding Riewoldt' and folks say he is out of form :shock:
Bardon Saint wrote:I don't think his performance was as great as what it is being made out to be. I think he did ok, that is all. Without looking too closely, he got beaten on a lead at least once (but that's ok) but got caught under a high ball once again which he does all too often. If I was Zac's opponent, I would instruct my forawards to be ahead of me, make a lead or baulk to go forward but have my teammates kick over my head so I can run back and take the mark. Easier said then done but worth trying from what I've seen.
I feel that a game against a struggling side, with average tall forwards, poor delivery into Port's forward line and lack of delivery has helped Zac get some kudos this week. Not too mention some very good performances by saints players assisting in defence and controlling the midfield which may have helped.
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STRENGTH THROUGH LOYALTY.
''I still get really excited, and I've got the '66 thing up on the wall in a frame … You look at it and think: one day, we want to achieve that.''- Arryn Siposs
Don't even try to have a balanced view and congratulate good performances when it's Zac, Raph, Kosi, Eddy, Gram, basically any player apart from Roo, Dal, Goddard and a lesser extent Montagna, it only stirs them up.
drop dawson. Infact trade him to another club for no picks. Easily the worst full back in the league. He only looked O.K today because we played port. Any other club and all he does is attack the player and not the ball, biggest dud.
drop dawson. Infact trade him to another club for no picks. Easily the worst full back in the league. He only looked O.K today because we played port. Any other club and all he does is attack the player and not the ball, biggest dud.
drop dawson. Infact trade him to another club for no picks. Easily the worst full back in the league. He only looked O.K today because we played port. Any other club and all he does is attack the player and not the ball, biggest dud.
I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
Dawson got some good touches and took a couple of solid marks but his defensive work wasn't great. Got caught napping when Shulz got free to have an open run at a contest and marked and goaled. Was also beaten too easily in a couple of one on ones and struggled to keep up on the lead.
I'm not a Zac basher or a Zac fanboy. I think he's generally an ok defender but has semi regular lapses in concentration and loses easy contests or gives away unnecessary free kicks. That said, he usually keeps his opponent below three goals and is pretty good in the air. He's also our only defender with the height to take the taller key forwards and resting ruckmen.
Bardon Saint wrote:I don't think his performance was as great as what it is being made out to be. I think he did ok, that is all. Without looking too closely, he got beaten on a lead at least once (but that's ok) but got caught under a high ball once again which he does all too often. If I was Zac's opponent, I would instruct my forawards to be ahead of me, make a lead or baulk to go forward but have my teammates kick over my head so I can run back and take the mark. Easier said then done but worth trying from what I've seen.
I feel that a game against a struggling side, with average tall forwards, poor delivery into Port's forward line and lack of delivery has helped Zac get some kudos this week. Not too mention some very good performances by saints players assisting in defence and controlling the midfield which may have helped.
Credit where its due and Zac more than beat his opponent yesterday. The example you put up to try and discredit Zac is pretty piss poor considering all full backs are vunerable to a deep kick over there heads to an opponent.
For three years Zac has basically received no fan fare for his job at FB from media and the press. The old line that he gets help gets trundled out when ever his name gets mentioned. Someone show me a defence that doesnt heilp each other out.
Bardon Saint wrote:I don't think his performance was as great as what it is being made out to be. I think he did ok, that is all. Without looking too closely, he got beaten on a lead at least once (but that's ok) but got caught under a high ball once again which he does all too often. If I was Zac's opponent, I would instruct my forawards to be ahead of me, make a lead or baulk to go forward but have my teammates kick over my head so I can run back and take the mark. Easier said then done but worth trying from what I've seen.
I feel that a game against a struggling side, with average tall forwards, poor delivery into Port's forward line and lack of delivery has helped Zac get some kudos this week. Not too mention some very good performances by saints players assisting in defence and controlling the midfield which may have helped.
Credit where its due and Zac more than beat his opponent yesterday. The example you put up to try and discredit Zac is pretty piss poor considering all full backs are vunerable to a deep kick over there heads to an opponent.
For three years Zac has basically received no fan fare for his job at FB from media and the press. The old line that he gets help gets trundled out when ever his name gets mentioned. Someone show me a defence that doesnt heilp each other out.
The post is not even discrediting Zac. We defend so well as a back 6/press/flood/whatever it is called that essentially we don't need a quality fullback against terrible teams. Someone needs to stand there and attempt to make a contest.
Zac is vulnerable 1 on 1 and always has been.
I equate Zac's performances and the ease with which he has it to Jonothan Brown in the Brisbane Lions forward line from 2001-2004. Blind Freddy could have snagged a few such was the talent and the confidence around him.
It is actually an indictment on Zac that he does not perform better more often given the help he gets from both the quality players and the game style that we play.