Buying a forward for 2012
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Buying a forward for 2012
It's been said that we might look at buying a Forward to help Roo out.
But lets be honest So far we havnt been to flash with picking them i.e Watts, Gardiner, Gamble, Lynch (now a back) Heyne and Stanley nowhere.
But I want to know what forwards are out of contract at the end of this year an might be looking for a new home?
The two names I can think of are Walker and Fev. both come with negatives and positives.
anyothers?
But lets be honest So far we havnt been to flash with picking them i.e Watts, Gardiner, Gamble, Lynch (now a back) Heyne and Stanley nowhere.
But I want to know what forwards are out of contract at the end of this year an might be looking for a new home?
The two names I can think of are Walker and Fev. both come with negatives and positives.
anyothers?
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Re: Buying a forward for 2012
walker is already signed and sealed with GWS.saintjake wrote:It's been said that we might look at buying a Forward to help Roo out.
But lets be honest So far we havnt been to flash with picking them i.e Watts, Gardiner, Gamble, Lynch (now a back) Heyne and Stanley nowhere.
But I want to know what forwards are out of contract at the end of this year an might be looking for a new home?
The two names I can think of are Walker and Fev. both come with negatives and positives.
anyothers?
tomahawk is available but i dont think we want him.
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Not sure they would that's why it would have to be a 'huge play'. But Charlie would be the perfect solution to our current problem. He is somebody you could build a forward line around especially with where the game is going now with power forwards.bergholt wrote:why would gold coast let go of him, then?Cairnsman wrote:We should be making a huge play for Charlie Dixon from the Gold Coast Suns.
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We've got to be realistic about this.
I can't imagine there's a hell of a lot in the salary cap, and if this year has proven anything, it's that playing as a key forward for the Saints is not fun at all.
It's all about finding excess. The 3rd tall forward at a club that is either gonna get pushed out by better and younger players, or is an up-and-comer who can't get a decent crack.
Quintin Lynch is one who comes to mind. With Darling and Kennedy around, is Lynch gonna get much game time deep forward (if that is where he wants to play)??
Essendon has the same issue with their ruckman. A few Bombers supporters I've spoken to think that Ryder will be the one to go, given he has the most value on the trade table. Could he play at CHF, with Roo in the goal square??
Jesse White was mentioned - I doubt the Swans will let him go, expecially with Bradshaw going down.
Anyone else in this boat??
I can't imagine there's a hell of a lot in the salary cap, and if this year has proven anything, it's that playing as a key forward for the Saints is not fun at all.
It's all about finding excess. The 3rd tall forward at a club that is either gonna get pushed out by better and younger players, or is an up-and-comer who can't get a decent crack.
Quintin Lynch is one who comes to mind. With Darling and Kennedy around, is Lynch gonna get much game time deep forward (if that is where he wants to play)??
Essendon has the same issue with their ruckman. A few Bombers supporters I've spoken to think that Ryder will be the one to go, given he has the most value on the trade table. Could he play at CHF, with Roo in the goal square??
Jesse White was mentioned - I doubt the Swans will let him go, expecially with Bradshaw going down.
Anyone else in this boat??
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of the talls we've recruited in recent years he is the one who most excites me, its just instinctual but i always think to myself that if he can flip some kind of switch inside he'll be very potent.SaintPav wrote:I wish Stanley would pull a finger out and show something.
thought the same about lynch in the freo game earlier this season, im hoping we can fill this gap "in-house".
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mmm. I wonder if Cloke is a downhill skier. Look at all of the downhill skiers we've go that looked fantastic over the past 2 years when the team thing was working.SainterSoul wrote:Should have made a play for Cloke when he was out of contact. Not that he'd probably leave Collingwood, but imagine a foward line of Cloke and Riewoldt.
Cloke has even improved his kicking this year.
With that all said, is it even possible to "buy" players these days. The salary cap is the killer.
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Buying a forward for 2012
Siposs showed something, he needs to be given another chance as does Stanley, all opposition teams would rather Goddard in backline rather than forward wouldn't they???
Gwilt is strong, fast & a penetrating kick, I would at least try him up forward for a game, we have plenty of backs that could cover him
Gwilt is strong, fast & a penetrating kick, I would at least try him up forward for a game, we have plenty of backs that could cover him
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Sam Day is a poor mans Jack Watts but will take about another 3 years longer then Watts to have any impact on a game...MCG-Unit wrote:Maybe they could look at Jack Darling or Sam Day, don't know how they would the deal done though..........
Mitch Clark could be a viable option or Patty Ryder. Can pinch hit in the ruck when Macca needs a rest. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone
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He's only 23 or 24, and Goodes is getting nearer to the end too. I dont think all is lost for White at the Swans.St DAC wrote:The same Jesse White who can't get a game for the Bradshaw-less Swans?St Chris wrote:We've got to be realistic about this.
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Jesse White was mentioned - I doubt the Swans will let him go, expecially with Bradshaw going down.
Not sure he's the answer ...
I didn't really mean they wouldn't let him go at all, just they have a bit of bargaining power, and will push a tough deal.
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Well there you go, what I've seen of Day, only played a few games, I thought he would be ahead of Watts at the same time - more of an athlete for what it's worth... Major upside.stkildathunda wrote:Sam Day is a poor mans Jack Watts but will take about another 3 years longer then Watts to have any impact on a game...MCG-Unit wrote:Maybe they could look at Jack Darling or Sam Day, don't know how they would the deal done though..........
Mitch Clark could be a viable option or Patty Ryder. Can pinch hit in the ruck when Macca needs a rest. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone
They have a lot of good young talls - Smith, Dixon, Gorringe, Day, Lynch and Nicholls.
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Mitch Clark would be a great option - reckon he would be on the radar of GWS & the 2 WA sides if uncontracted.
Doubt Ess would let Ryder go other than a massive deal. Hille would be the one I would go for - he is not just a ruckman
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MCG-Unit wrote:Well there you go, what I've seen of Day, only played a few games, I thought he would be ahead of Watts at the same time - more of an athlete for what it's worth... Major upside.stkildathunda wrote:Sam Day is a poor mans Jack Watts but will take about another 3 years longer then Watts to have any impact on a game...MCG-Unit wrote:Maybe they could look at Jack Darling or Sam Day, don't know how they would the deal done though..........
Mitch Clark could be a viable option or Patty Ryder. Can pinch hit in the ruck when Macca needs a rest. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone
They have a lot of good young talls - Smith, Dixon, Gorringe, Day, Lynch and Nicholls.![]()
Doubt Ess would let Ryder go other than a massive deal. Hille would be the one I would go for - he is not just a ruckman(Bellchambers has re-newed his contract)
They have said all along that he is a project player, so no disrespect to the bloke but yea if we had the time to develop him he would be worth getting...
Pretty sure Dixon is on a long term contract and worth a few $$$$ already. They signed all their young guns on long contracts pretty early.
I guess it comes down to if they go for another young forward or a established one. Depends if they think we are still a chance of a premiership in next 2 or so years...