Reserves Team

[FortiusQuoFidelius]

Has anybody else noted the fact that the top two teams this year have their own reserves team and arent affiliated with a VFL club?

Is the benefit of developing and playing kids in the position you want rather than where the affiliated club wants paying dividends to Collingwood and Geelong?

Should we form our own reserves team to play in the VFL next year?

[Dr Spaceman]

Has anybody else noted the fact that the top two teams this year have their own reserves team and arent affiliated with a VFL club?

Is the benefit of developing and playing kids in the position you want rather than where the affiliated club wants paying dividends to Collingwood and Geelong?

Should we form our own reserves team to play in the VFL next year?

It's been raised several times before and is absolutely true.

The only issue is the cost of doing so; which is not unsubstantial.

[FortiusQuoFidelius]

Has anybody else noted the fact that the top two teams this year have their own reserves team and arent affiliated with a VFL club?

Is the benefit of developing and playing kids in the position you want rather than where the affiliated club wants paying dividends to Collingwood and Geelong?

Should we form our own reserves team to play in the VFL next year?

It's been raised several times before and is absolutely true.

The only issue is the cost of doing so; which is not unsubstantial.

Dont disagree on the financial aspect, but in the end you would pay anything for a better shot at a premiership wouldnt you??

[Wrote for Luck]

the other advantages are an increase in VFL turnout (attendance) and same club style of footy, so that when a player switches from VFL to AFL it is the same game plan.

[Dr Spaceman]

Has anybody else noted the fact that the top two teams this year have their own reserves team and arent affiliated with a VFL club?

Is the benefit of developing and playing kids in the position you want rather than where the affiliated club wants paying dividends to Collingwood and Geelong?

Should we form our own reserves team to play in the VFL next year?

It's been raised several times before and is absolutely true.

The only issue is the cost of doing so; which is not unsubstantial.

Dont disagree on the financial aspect, but in the end you would pay anything for a better shot at a premiership wouldnt you??

Which is why the club has been considering it, and continues to look at the possibility.

Apart from the cost there is also the question of where does the team play, which is not as simple as it may appear to be.

Don't worry FQF, it is on their agenda. May not happen of course, but it is out there

[Ice Wolf]

Has anybody else noted the fact that the top two teams this year have their own reserves team and arent affiliated with a VFL club?

Is the benefit of developing and playing kids in the position you want rather than where the affiliated club wants paying dividends to Collingwood and Geelong?

Should we form our own reserves team to play in the VFL next year?

It's been raised several times before and is absolutely true.

The only issue is the cost of doing so; which is not unsubstantial.

Dont disagree on the financial aspect, but in the end you would pay anything for a better shot at a premiership wouldnt you??

Which is why the club has been considering it, and continues to look at the possibility.

Apart from the cost there is also the question of where does the team play, which is not as simple as it may appear to be.

Don't worry FQF, it is on their agenda. May not happen of course, but it is out there

Just buy out Frankston and take them over completely.

Play as the Frankston Football Club in the VFL out of Frankston Park, have stipulations that the VFL mascot wont change, all honors ect will be retained ect. i.e. actually retain the history of the club we are about to bastardise unlike some other clubs have done (looking at you Hawthorn, Essendon ect.)

[SainterSoul]

I thought the VFL (Schwab?) mentioned earlier this year that no other AFL stand alone reserves sides would be admitted to the competition. Something about them not wanting the competition to lose it's identity.

Therefore, I'm not sure if it's even a possibility at this point.

[Ice Wolf]

I thought the VFL (Schwab?) mentioned earlier this year that no other AFL stand alone reserves sides would be admitted to the competition. Something about them not wanting the competition to lose it's identity.

Therefore, I'm not sure if it's even a possibility at this point.

It is a possibility if we take over an existing club and run it like a standalone reserves side.

[Eastern]

We have a "water-tight" contract with Sandringham. I am not sure how long it is for !!

[SainterSoul]

But that's just my point. I don't think the VFL want that to occur. They don't want existing teams being driven out of the VFL. That said, Frankston are crap, and taking over them might appeal to the VFL.

[Ice Wolf]

But that's just my point. I don't think the VFL want that to occur. They don't want existing teams being driven out of the VFL. That said, Frankston are crap, and taking over them might appeal to the VFL.

Makes a lot of sence to both sides, you would have the Frankston identity, honors ect being maintained in the VFL and the St Kilda identity, honors ect. being maintained in the AFL.

We gain Frankston VFL license, social facilities ect, they gain our training facilities, players, coaches, corporate contacts ect.

[Saints43]

Has anybody else noted the fact that the top two teams this year have their own reserves team and arent affiliated with a VFL club?

Is the benefit of developing and playing kids in the position you want rather than where the affiliated club wants paying dividends to Collingwood and Geelong?

Should we form our own reserves team to play in the VFL next year?

It's been raised several times before and is absolutely true.

The only issue is the cost of doing so; which is not unsubstantial.

And we have a contract with Sandy for this & next year, I think.

[noob]

not only that the sandy reserves had a bye one week with the seniors didn't. There were some st.kilda players who missed out all together.. playing in the st.kilda 22 and sandy 1s.. surely that doesnt help either.

[saintbrat]

not only that the sandy reserves had a bye one week with the seniors didn't. There were some st.kilda players who missed out all together.. playing in the st.kilda 22 and sandy 1s.. surely that doesnt help either.

same happens for Geelong and Collingwood- same number of byes for each and neither have VFL reserves so no match if their VFl team have the bye

Pies and Cats aren't exactly starring in VFL this year.- the 'quality' is now all in the AFL.

[ThePunter]

No Victorian team has won a premiership without a reserves team they control. In fact, only Adelaide, Port Adelaide and West Coast have managed to do it at all.

Geelong and Collingwood have their own teams, and Box Hill is owned by the Hawthorn Football Club.

[Junction Oval]

I believe that we contribute around 50% of Sandy's costs - $250,000 or so.

The other $250 would be a very big ask, the way things are travelling now at the Saints and likely to be under more pressure next year.

[noob]

At least with the pies and cats everyone of their players is playing in the VFL seniors.. not the VFL reserves. So I guess their develop improves a lot quicker.

[saintbrat]

At least with the pies and cats everyone of their players is playing in the VFL seniors.. not the VFL reserves. So I guess their develop improves a lot quicker.

they also have to find and pay top up players...

[saint tash]

not only that the sandy reserves had a bye one week with the seniors didn't. There were some st.kilda players who missed out all together.. playing in the st.kilda 22 and sandy 1s.. surely that doesnt help either.

same happens for Geelong and Collingwood- same number of byes for each and neither have VFL reserves so no match if their VFl team have the bye

Pies and Cats aren't exactly starring in VFL this year.- the 'quality' is now all in the AFL.

Collingwood and Geelong couldn't give a flog how many games their respective sides won during the year. It's purely a developmental level for both those sides where they can experiment and trial players in different areas and not be dictated to by the feeder or sister club i.e. Sandringham.

[Dr Spaceman]

not only that the sandy reserves had a bye one week with the seniors didn't. There were some st.kilda players who missed out all together.. playing in the st.kilda 22 and sandy 1s.. surely that doesnt help either.

same happens for Geelong and Collingwood- same number of byes for each and neither have VFL reserves so no match if their VFl team have the bye

Pies and Cats aren't exactly starring in VFL this year.- the 'quality' is now all in the AFL.

Collingwood and Geelong couldn't give a flog how many games their respective sides won during the year. It's purely a developmental level for both those sides where they can experiment and trial players in different areas and not be dictated to by the feeder or sister club i.e. Sandringham.

Yep, that's the sole purpose of the exercise, to ensure correct player development.

It is not about winning VFL flags.

[Ice Wolf]

not only that the sandy reserves had a bye one week with the seniors didn't. There were some st.kilda players who missed out all together.. playing in the st.kilda 22 and sandy 1s.. surely that doesnt help either.

same happens for Geelong and Collingwood- same number of byes for each and neither have VFL reserves so no match if their VFl team have the bye

Pies and Cats aren't exactly starring in VFL this year.- the 'quality' is now all in the AFL.

Collingwood and Geelong couldn't give a flog how many games their respective sides won during the year. It's purely a developmental level for both those sides where they can experiment and trial players in different areas and not be dictated to by the feeder or sister club i.e. Sandringham.

Yep, that's the sole purpose of the exercise, to ensure correct player development.

It is not about winning VFL flags.

Yet Geelong have still won 2 of them recently

[Dr Spaceman]

not only that the sandy reserves had a bye one week with the seniors didn't. There were some st.kilda players who missed out all together.. playing in the st.kilda 22 and sandy 1s.. surely that doesnt help either.

 same happens for Geelong and Collingwood- same number of byes for each and neither have  VFL reserves so no match if their VFl team have the bye

 Pies and Cats aren't exactly starring in VFL this year.- the 'quality' is now all in the AFL.

Collingwood and Geelong couldn't give a flog how many games their respective sides won during the year.  It's purely a developmental level for both those sides where they can experiment and trial players in different areas and not be dictated to by the feeder or sister club i.e. Sandringham.

Yep, that's the sole purpose of the exercise, to ensure correct player development.

It is not about winning VFL flags.

Yet Geelong have still won 2 of them recently

Well you certainly don't knock em back if they come along 

[plugger66]

not only that the sandy reserves had a bye one week with the seniors didn't. There were some st.kilda players who missed out all together.. playing in the st.kilda 22 and sandy 1s.. surely that doesnt help either.

same happens for Geelong and Collingwood- same number of byes for each and neither have VFL reserves so no match if their VFl team have the bye

Pies and Cats aren't exactly starring in VFL this year.- the 'quality' is now all in the AFL.

Collingwood and Geelong couldn't give a flog how many games their respective sides won during the year. It's purely a developmental level for both those sides where they can experiment and trial players in different areas and not be dictated to by the feeder or sister club i.e. Sandringham.

Yep, that's the sole purpose of the exercise, to ensure correct player development.

It is not about winning VFL flags.

Yet Geelong have still won 2 of them recently

When?

[borderbarry]

Steven King played in a winning GF for Geelong in the VFL and AFL in consecitive weeks, the year we picked him up.

[MCG-Unit]

........Collingwood and Geelong couldn't give a flog how many games their respective sides won during the year. It's purely a developmental level for both those sides where they can experiment and trial players in different areas and not be dictated to by the feeder or sister club i.e. Sandringham.

Yep, that's the sole purpose of the exercise, to ensure correct player development.

It is not about winning VFL flags.

Exactly, they couldn't give a shyster about ladder positions - Coll & Geel want to have players in the positions they wish to develop them in - not where the VFL club places them

Would be worth whatever the cost is to have a standalone reserves side.