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... Billy Brownless whingeing about the Selwood suspension on the grounds that there was no conclusive footage of it.
Didn't hear him coming to Baker's defence over the Farmer incident a few years back.
Let's face it. Selwood copped his right whack for snotting someone behind play.
Didn't hear him coming to Baker's defence over the Farmer incident a few years back.
Let's face it. Selwood copped his right whack for snotting someone behind play.
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Some people have a hard time divorcing themselves from the incident v the individual.kp83 wrote:I couldn't believe how pathetic it was. Billy, he hit the guy behind play (which he admitted to) and he ended up with a perforated ear drum - case closed. Doesn't matter that you think he is a good/fair player.
By all reports Joel Selwood is a terrific bloke and nobody can question his courage on the field. He plays it hard. He has, in past, played it fair.
That doesn't mean that the AFL can excuse an incident as serious as this. An off the ball hit (open hand or not) that was delivered to the side of the head with enough force to perforate an ear drum. That is no school boy slap!
It is virtually impossible to slap someone in the ear whilst not facing them.
So whether it was open hand or clenched fist should not matter. I am pretty sure the MRP categories don't distinguish. It is not hard to see how the classifications were derived for this incident.
Conduct: Intentional. As stated to slap/punch someone in the ear means that the players were face to face. Not a reckless or careless act.
Impact: High. Perforated ear drum says it all.
Contact: High. Hit to the head.
I am not sure how any video footage would have helped him.
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bigcarl wrote:... Billy Brownless whingeing about the Selwood suspension on the grounds that there was no conclusive footage of it.
Didn't hear him coming to Baker's defence over the Farmer incident a few years back.
Let's face it. Selwood copped his right whack for snotting someone behind play.
f*** me....player goes to ground......with a ruptured eardrum......enough evidence for me.....
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Interesting point you make.Life Long Saint wrote:Some people have a hard time divorcing themselves from the incident v the individual.kp83 wrote:I couldn't believe how pathetic it was. Billy, he hit the guy behind play (which he admitted to) and he ended up with a perforated ear drum - case closed. Doesn't matter that you think he is a good/fair player.
By all reports Joel Selwood is a terrific bloke and nobody can question his courage on the field. He plays it hard. He has, in past, played it fair.
That doesn't mean that the AFL can excuse an incident as serious as this. An off the ball hit (open hand or not) that was delivered to the side of the head with enough force to perforate an ear drum. That is no school boy slap!
It is virtually impossible to slap someone in the ear whilst not facing them.
So whether it was open hand or clenched fist should not matter. I am pretty sure the MRP categories don't distinguish. It is not hard to see how the classifications were derived for this incident.
Conduct: Intentional. As stated to slap/punch someone in the ear means that the players were face to face. Not a reckless or careless act.
Impact: High. Perforated ear drum says it all.
Contact: High. Hit to the head.
I am not sure how any video footage would have helped him.
Just wondering how many times Jim O'Dea was reported/suspended in his career up to the time of the 'Greening incident'?
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Don't want to talk about the Baker incident because none of us saw it. And at least one poster on here has suggested Bake's has admitted to the incident in private conversations.bigcarl wrote:... Billy Brownless whingeing about the Selwood suspension on the grounds that there was no conclusive footage of it.
Didn't hear him coming to Baker's defence over the Farmer incident a few years back.
Let's face it. Selwood copped his right whack for snotting someone behind play.
But BB's defence of Selwood last night was ridiculous. The fact you may be a player with a clean record, that you may be an elite player and that you may be really upset does not warrant a different outcome.
Any player faced with the evidence that was available would have got done.
This is simply something Selwood can't duck from
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Poor old Billy even struggled to read the script (probably written by the GFC PR Dept) he had in front of him. Billy, Selwood & Geelong would be better advised to listen to what some of the veteran Tribunal reporters had to say when Selwood/Geelong tried to use the same line on Tuesday Night. Graeme Bond basically said that what Geelong/Selwood brought to the Tribunal did nothing more than waste the Tribunal Panel's time !!
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Well we still said our bit about how rough the suspension was so IMO Billy is entilted to say what he said and the most valid point he made is they have to have better behind the goal vision.bigcarl wrote:no, but it set a precedent. so long as the rules are implemented consistently I have no complaintsplugger66 wrote:So I take it everyone was happy with the Baker suspension after the Farmer incident.
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for once they've got it right. doesn't happen often.plugger66 wrote:Dont get that. He got the same suspension as Bakes.bigcarl wrote:they could bring that in for selwood. special rules for special playersplugger66 wrote:the most valid point he made is they have to have better behind the goal vision.
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Also.........The longer Geelong people (like Billy) go on about it, the more the tide of public opinion will go against them. They would be better served to cop their whack and move on. The more they carry on the more they look like a pack of whingers !!
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agree. listening to them bleat about it is music to my ears. they are a precious lot when it comes to "duck" selwoodEastern wrote:Also.........The longer Geelong people (like Billy) go on about it, the more the tide of public opinion will go against them. They would be better served to cop their whack and move on. The more they carry on the more they look like a pack of whingers !!
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The fact is, we have had to accept the punshment handed out to Bakes, deserved or not (another topic), and I don't recall our ex players having a "public" whinge about it. 2 points I would like to make.
1. Geelong are a pack of whingers and have been for a long time.
2. The biggest injustice in football was Guiansercusa's hit on Koz and that filthy little dog got away with it.
1. Geelong are a pack of whingers and have been for a long time.
2. The biggest injustice in football was Guiansercusa's hit on Koz and that filthy little dog got away with it.
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The whole reporting process is hopeless !!!! Umpires used to make reports and the media were basically not allowed to show any vision or talk about the cases till after the hearings , Nowdays the umps seem to leave just about everything to the MRP ( I know it was behind play and they may not of seen this particular incident .) this allows trial by media , which can sometimes prejudice a case . E.G. bakes last year , i went to that game last year and saw a tough contest between two tough nuts , on the car ride home , I listened to every cat supporter crying how SJ was manhandled and how biased the umps were , by monday the media wanted bakes hung drawn and quartered , when you see the vision , in three of the four things bakes got done for , the umpire was right there and did nothing !!!!
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Joke at the highest regard, the fact of Guerra's injury was never going to favor Selwood.
Was lucky to only get 4 weeks, as I said, if it was Steven Baker, he'd get 10 weeks and some AFL clown representative saying how bad he is and its not part of our game, yet no one says a word about Selwood.
Imo, what Baker did (niggles) was far less damaging than what Selwood did.
Never mind, all I hear is complains from Geelong supports, the push in the back to Gwilt wasn't there and you should of lost, Baker is a thug, what else?
I don't like Geelong one bit, whingers.
Joke at the highest regard, the fact of Guerra's injury was never going to favor Selwood.
Was lucky to only get 4 weeks, as I said, if it was Steven Baker, he'd get 10 weeks and some AFL clown representative saying how bad he is and its not part of our game, yet no one says a word about Selwood.
Imo, what Baker did (niggles) was far less damaging than what Selwood did.
Never mind, all I hear is complains from Geelong supports, the push in the back to Gwilt wasn't there and you should of lost, Baker is a thug, what else?
I don't like Geelong one bit, whingers.
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