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lets be realistic about hawthorn aswell ... they lost ot the Crows first up .. fell over the line against the eagles and got taught a lesson against the Cats today ... we are in a funk no doubt as are some other teams who seem immune to the media spot light we get ....saintlee wrote:Why are you comparing us to the WB and Mel? The important question is can be beat teams like Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn etc that are a genuine flag chance. And the answer is we are miles off at the moment.
Miles..? One point against the Cats ...?saintlee wrote:Why are you comparing us to the WB and Mel? The important question is can be beat teams like Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn etc that are a genuine flag chance. And the answer is we are miles off at the moment.
Fair enough re hawthorn, point being I don't see the point of comparing us to other middle of the road teams at this stage of our development. If we can't go with the best then we need to think about regeneration.st_Trav_ofWA wrote:lets be realistic about hawthorn aswell ... they lost ot the Crows first up .. fell over the line against the eagles and got taught a lesson against the Cats today ... we are in a funk no doubt as are some other teams who seem immune to the media spot light we get ....saintlee wrote:Why are you comparing us to the WB and Mel? The important question is can be beat teams like Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn etc that are a genuine flag chance. And the answer is we are miles off at the moment.
Would we get that close again now? Think we played them at a good time and we couldn't beat them when we really should have. Geelong are unbeaten and playing well. We are terribly out of form and I worry about where our next stars are coming fromMiddo wrote:Miles..? One point against the Cats ...?saintlee wrote:Why are you comparing us to the WB and Mel? The important question is can be beat teams like Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn etc that are a genuine flag chance. And the answer is we are miles off at the moment.
well lets also look at geelong ... fell over the line against us ... smashed port as most would especially in Geelong... fell over the line against Freo and was touch and go against the swans .... they have done well but they have been far from perfectsaintlee wrote:Fair enough re hawthorn, point being I don't see the point of comparing us to other middle of the road teams at this stage of our development. If we can't go with the best then we need to think about regeneration.st_Trav_ofWA wrote:lets be realistic about hawthorn aswell ... they lost ot the Crows first up .. fell over the line against the eagles and got taught a lesson against the Cats today ... we are in a funk no doubt as are some other teams who seem immune to the media spot light we get ....saintlee wrote:Why are you comparing us to the WB and Mel? The important question is can be beat teams like Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn etc that are a genuine flag chance. And the answer is we are miles off at the moment.
Beat us, beat Freo over in Perth, beat Hawthorn comfortably, and are unbeaten after 5 rounds. Thats not bad in my book.st_Trav_ofWA wrote:well lets also look at geelong ... fell over the line against us ... smashed port as most would especially in Geelong... fell over the line against Freo and was touch and go against the swans .... they have done well but they have been far from perfectsaintlee wrote:Fair enough re hawthorn, point being I don't see the point of comparing us to other middle of the road teams at this stage of our development. If we can't go with the best then we need to think about regeneration.st_Trav_ofWA wrote:lets be realistic about hawthorn aswell ... they lost ot the Crows first up .. fell over the line against the eagles and got taught a lesson against the Cats today ... we are in a funk no doubt as are some other teams who seem immune to the media spot light we get ....saintlee wrote:Why are you comparing us to the WB and Mel? The important question is can be beat teams like Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn etc that are a genuine flag chance. And the answer is we are miles off at the moment.
no mistake we are in a funk and our form is not the best but you gotta remember we lost by one point because of a last min stuff up , we drew with the tigs with us kicking ourself out of the game .... the only real loss that showed us failing was against Essendon ... the team that pushed collingwood to its limits ... we have been bad but not as bad as the media love telling us we have beensaintlee wrote:Would we get that close again now? Think we played them at a good time and we couldn't beat them when we really should have. Geelong are unbeaten and playing well. We are terribly out of form and I worry about where our next stars are coming fromMiddo wrote:Miles..? One point against the Cats ...?saintlee wrote:Why are you comparing us to the WB and Mel? The important question is can be beat teams like Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn etc that are a genuine flag chance. And the answer is we are miles off at the moment.
No doubt the media have written us of too soon, but they always jump to conclusions as it helps to sell papers. IMO we will still comfortably make the 8...not sure we will be top 4 tho.....lets just hope we hit some form soon.thejiggingsaint wrote:Not comparing us with M. O. R. teams. (by the way the media seem to think the Doggies are a chance) Simply comparing the way in which the world and his dog are prepared to write off our season NOW based on results so far. The Doggies and several other sides have had the fortune to play GC and Brisbonk (as we have too) We played badly against Essendon (but so did the Doggies!) and we've been hauled over the coals for it and dismissed out of hand.
All I'm saying is that we need to wait a wee while to see how we go in 2011. Even Collingwood have the potential to hit a form slump, just as WE (if we all work hard enough) have the potential to hit a winning streak! We have one win on the board (and are half a win behind some of the fancied teams) so why the hell not?!!!
the hawthorn game was their best performance ... they could easilly have been 2 from 5 at this stage just as we could easily have been 3 and 1 ....saintlee wrote:Beat us, beat Freo over in Perth, beat Hawthorn comfortably, and are unbeaten after 5 rounds. Thats not bad in my book.st_Trav_ofWA wrote:well lets also look at geelong ... fell over the line against us ... smashed port as most would especially in Geelong... fell over the line against Freo and was touch and go against the swans .... they have done well but they have been far from perfectsaintlee wrote:Fair enough re hawthorn, point being I don't see the point of comparing us to other middle of the road teams at this stage of our development. If we can't go with the best then we need to think about regeneration.st_Trav_ofWA wrote:lets be realistic about hawthorn aswell ... they lost ot the Crows first up .. fell over the line against the eagles and got taught a lesson against the Cats today ... we are in a funk no doubt as are some other teams who seem immune to the media spot light we get ....saintlee wrote:Why are you comparing us to the WB and Mel? The important question is can be beat teams like Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn etc that are a genuine flag chance. And the answer is we are miles off at the moment.
top 4 will be hard especially given our draw the next month will be a massive test for ussaintlee wrote:No doubt the media have written us of too soon, but they always jump to conclusions as it helps to sell papers. IMO we will still comfortably make the 8...not sure we will be top 4 tho.....lets just hope we hit some form soon.thejiggingsaint wrote:Not comparing us with M. O. R. teams. (by the way the media seem to think the Doggies are a chance) Simply comparing the way in which the world and his dog are prepared to write off our season NOW based on results so far. The Doggies and several other sides have had the fortune to play GC and Brisbonk (as we have too) We played badly against Essendon (but so did the Doggies!) and we've been hauled over the coals for it and dismissed out of hand.
All I'm saying is that we need to wait a wee while to see how we go in 2011. Even Collingwood have the potential to hit a form slump, just as WE (if we all work hard enough) have the potential to hit a winning streak! We have one win on the board (and are half a win behind some of the fancied teams) so why the hell not?!!!
Got to say, but I am also feeling a bit more optomistic.Con Gorozidis wrote:im glad lethal said that. i too have become much more optimistic after watching a great round of afl games.
but pies aside noone else is that flash. geelong still formidable as ever. dockers up and about. so really the general landscape is the same as last year. cats having a honeymoon run with new coach.
mental issues aside we are still alive.
If we are just sneaking into the 8 then for me its a mini relaod year. If so, go flat out playing youth, turn them over find out who is/isnt a player and dont worry bout finals. I know GWS have all good picks....but we can still sure up our spot in the selection...still trade and ensure any senior player with a niggle is fit for pre season 2012. Hayes needs bionic man plates insterted also.......Richter wrote:Got to say, but I am also feeling a bit more optomistic.Con Gorozidis wrote:im glad lethal said that. i too have become much more optimistic after watching a great round of afl games.
but pies aside noone else is that flash. geelong still formidable as ever. dockers up and about. so really the general landscape is the same as last year. cats having a honeymoon run with new coach.
mental issues aside we are still alive.
It just does not make sense that this team who over the last 5 years have been in the best in the competition, should suddenly turn to rubbish. Clearly we need to improve and blood a few youngsters, but there is still hope. Flickering though it is.
After the bye in round 14 we have 5 highly winnable games on the trot - North, Port, Eagles, Crows and GC. If we can go 4-4 in our next 8, and then get on a run in those 5, and finish the season with improved form then we can sneak in to the 8 and perhaps give finals a shake from there.
Long way to go, but all hope is not quite lost.
fair point.Richter wrote:It just does not make sense that this team who over the last 5 years have been in the best in the competition, should suddenly turn to rubbish. Clearly we need to improve and blood a few youngsters, but there is still hope. Flickering though it is.
After the bye in round 14 we have 5 highly winnable games on the trot - North, Port, Eagles, Crows and GC. If we can go 4-4 in our next 8, and then get on a run in those 5, and finish the season with improved form then we can sneak in to the 8 and perhaps give finals a shake from there.
Long way to go, but all hope is not quite lost.