Ross Lyon's press conference - transcript
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Ross Lyon's press conference - transcript
Hard to speculate about our form
Expectation for the Saints is to compete
Like to think that discipline and committment come to the fore, we wilted and they didn't.
They kicked three goals in the first quarter from defensive stoppages - to put into context, we have 20 for the whole year last year.
I thought we looked dangerous in general play in the first quarter, inability to defend at all in the second quarter.
They kicked 8.2 from 12 entries. Nothing breaks the heart of a team more than an inability to clear the ball from a stoppage.
It was embarrassing really.
Ultimately it's a coaching issue. Myself have had things in place and basics done very well for a long time. Not doing that broke the spirit of the team.
We didn't have a F50 tackle to three quarter time.
Our over-handball has gone against where the game is at. It's now about using handball to create a kicker, rather than run into the next wave of defence.
Really disappointed for Nick, for our supporters.
Clearly something is going on - we introduced 5 new players tonight. We tried for some enthusiasm but it's still not kicking in.
We've been under pressure before.
This group has been to 5 Prelims and 2 GF's under me and it's a lot of Prelims ultimately falling short.
Maybe it is transition phase now. I could easily pick for honesty Jason Blake, Andrew McQualter, Robert Eddy. On the back of their honesty and discipline we have been able to manufacture a lot of wins over a long period. They have been so disciplined over a long period, people ask me why I pick those guys, they have helped create a combative team.
At the minute without Baker and Blake there are a few playing without
honesty and selflessness.
Maybe it's a full transition and rebuild. Maybe I've been in denial. Maybe we've climbed the mountain too many times and we need to regenerate.
Or alternatively we keep picking the disciplined players and try and shine with them again.
I've got to go away and contemplate and make that decision now.
We have 30 shots last week, we couldn't defend. We couldn't defend today. If you don't perform in the AFL, you become yesterday's heroes pretty quickly.
Confidence is built on action and preparation mental and physical. Those basic fabrics of team sport aren't there when they need to be.
Where the modern game is at is stopping it at centre forward and locking it in there up forward.
And yet tonight we have zero F50 tackles. None.
So what I'm saying is it's demanding and our hunger isn't there. At the moment if you want to get a kick and an uncontested mark, come and play against the Saints.
Expectation for the Saints is to compete
Like to think that discipline and committment come to the fore, we wilted and they didn't.
They kicked three goals in the first quarter from defensive stoppages - to put into context, we have 20 for the whole year last year.
I thought we looked dangerous in general play in the first quarter, inability to defend at all in the second quarter.
They kicked 8.2 from 12 entries. Nothing breaks the heart of a team more than an inability to clear the ball from a stoppage.
It was embarrassing really.
Ultimately it's a coaching issue. Myself have had things in place and basics done very well for a long time. Not doing that broke the spirit of the team.
We didn't have a F50 tackle to three quarter time.
Our over-handball has gone against where the game is at. It's now about using handball to create a kicker, rather than run into the next wave of defence.
Really disappointed for Nick, for our supporters.
Clearly something is going on - we introduced 5 new players tonight. We tried for some enthusiasm but it's still not kicking in.
We've been under pressure before.
This group has been to 5 Prelims and 2 GF's under me and it's a lot of Prelims ultimately falling short.
Maybe it is transition phase now. I could easily pick for honesty Jason Blake, Andrew McQualter, Robert Eddy. On the back of their honesty and discipline we have been able to manufacture a lot of wins over a long period. They have been so disciplined over a long period, people ask me why I pick those guys, they have helped create a combative team.
At the minute without Baker and Blake there are a few playing without
honesty and selflessness.
Maybe it's a full transition and rebuild. Maybe I've been in denial. Maybe we've climbed the mountain too many times and we need to regenerate.
Or alternatively we keep picking the disciplined players and try and shine with them again.
I've got to go away and contemplate and make that decision now.
We have 30 shots last week, we couldn't defend. We couldn't defend today. If you don't perform in the AFL, you become yesterday's heroes pretty quickly.
Confidence is built on action and preparation mental and physical. Those basic fabrics of team sport aren't there when they need to be.
Where the modern game is at is stopping it at centre forward and locking it in there up forward.
And yet tonight we have zero F50 tackles. None.
So what I'm saying is it's demanding and our hunger isn't there. At the moment if you want to get a kick and an uncontested mark, come and play against the Saints.
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"There's a few playing without honesty, discipline and selflessness," said Lyon.
" ... This group's been to five prelims, three under me, two grand finals under me.
"It's a lot of prelims, it's two grand finals ultimately short.
"Maybe it is a full transition. Maybe everyone's been right. Maybe I've been in denial.
"Maybe we've climbed the mountain too many times and we need to regenerate.
"Or alternatively keep picking honest players that are disciplined, selfless and try to shine again.
"I can't defend the indefensible. That was indefensible tonight.
"We're not playing anywhere near the brand of footy we've played the past two years.
"We're not doing what you need to be doing in the modern game.
"At the minute, if you want to get a kick and an uncontested mark, come and play against the Saints."
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no doubt ross will be on the phone talking to paul roos
... and , imo , that wouldnt be a bad thing
lets think our way through this ross.
lets get our reserves side playing at morrabbin for starters ,
then playn the A and B squads i talked of the year before last
(which the filth will impliment next)
and start planning and playing tomorrows footy style today
just win me a flag (or two)
please
... and , imo , that wouldnt be a bad thing
lets think our way through this ross.
lets get our reserves side playing at morrabbin for starters ,
then playn the A and B squads i talked of the year before last
(which the filth will impliment next)
and start planning and playing tomorrows footy style today
just win me a flag (or two)
please
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.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
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Re: Ross Lyon's press conference - transcript
[ We didn't have a F50 tackle to three quarter time.
Well maybe if we kicked to a one on one instead of two to three against one sometimes that might have been different.
Well maybe if we kicked to a one on one instead of two to three against one sometimes that might have been different.
Are you gonna be the one?
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I can't eithervacuous space wrote:Am I the only one who can't get the audio to run on that sportal link? I can get Hird's comments, but when I load the Lyon one, the player doesn't load.
but found Video above.
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Is also on www.afl.com.au click on picture of RL on the left hand side.
Shows that RL clearly sees what the choice is....
1/ Back to Blake, McQualter and Eddy to try to relive the glories of the last two years, but go one better....
or....
2/ The Brave New World, in which new young enthusiastic but inexperienced and at times undisciplined players are brought in.
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'The Challenge' is yours RL.
Be brave Ross, I implore you.....
Shows that RL clearly sees what the choice is....
1/ Back to Blake, McQualter and Eddy to try to relive the glories of the last two years, but go one better....
or....
2/ The Brave New World, in which new young enthusiastic but inexperienced and at times undisciplined players are brought in.
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'The Challenge' is yours RL.
Be brave Ross, I implore you.....
Hird... The unflushable one is now... just a turd...
The conservative part of me is saying, if that's the brave new world, give me Blake, McQualter and Eddy every day of the week.Richter wrote:Is also on www.afl.com.au click on picture of RL on the left hand side.
Shows that RL clearly sees what the choice is....
1/ Back to Blake, McQualter and Eddy to try to relive the glories of the last two years, but go one better....
or....
2/ The Brave New World, in which new young enthusiastic but inexperienced and at times undisciplined players are brought in.
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'The Challenge' is yours RL.
Be brave Ross, I implore you.....
But then I think, if we want to come fifth or sixth every year like Sydney, well maybe that's an idea. But if we want to win a flag sooner or later, well Ross has to be brave, and build up a great side by teaching talented footballers how to put in effort.
STRENGTH THROUGH LOYALTY.
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from ross's interview it appears that;
- his keen on playing more kids. eg winmar, big will
- our game plan is still good enough its just the implementation of it from the players
-believes our defending has been pathetic and that our defence keeps "collapsing"
-also that we are just not winning any hard ball or getting forwards pressure and locking it into our 50
-thinks some players just arnt up to it anymore-bakes name was said around this part of the interview;could have been referring to him?
-at the end of the day will go away and assess whether we go for a total rebuild or we still have a shot at it.
-believes that also some players just arnt committed/focused on doing their part for the team as its a taxing game plan
- his keen on playing more kids. eg winmar, big will
- our game plan is still good enough its just the implementation of it from the players
-believes our defending has been pathetic and that our defence keeps "collapsing"
-also that we are just not winning any hard ball or getting forwards pressure and locking it into our 50
-thinks some players just arnt up to it anymore-bakes name was said around this part of the interview;could have been referring to him?
-at the end of the day will go away and assess whether we go for a total rebuild or we still have a shot at it.
-believes that also some players just arnt committed/focused on doing their part for the team as its a taxing game plan
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terrific presser from Ross. If it were only as easy to blood all these young players.... the problem is that most of them are no bloody good. Sounds harsh but its not worth playing the kids just for the sake of some new energy and enthusiasm, as it didn't work tonight.
Ross is in a place where he either goes back to Bakes, Blake, McQualter, Dempster or puts a line through them and plays the kids.
With the exception of Stanley, i personally thought most of the additions to the team tonight did stuff all.
IMO (for what its worth) I would stay with the guys that got us to within a kick of 2 grand finals. Confidence is an amazing thing and at the moment it was pretty obvious we have bugger all of it tonight.
One week is a long time in footy.... Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater, I admit signs were not good tonight, but i still think this is mainly a mental issue from the scars of last year.
Keep the faith
Ross is in a place where he either goes back to Bakes, Blake, McQualter, Dempster or puts a line through them and plays the kids.
With the exception of Stanley, i personally thought most of the additions to the team tonight did stuff all.
IMO (for what its worth) I would stay with the guys that got us to within a kick of 2 grand finals. Confidence is an amazing thing and at the moment it was pretty obvious we have bugger all of it tonight.
One week is a long time in footy.... Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater, I admit signs were not good tonight, but i still think this is mainly a mental issue from the scars of last year.
Keep the faith
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Ross Lyon has a brilliant football mind. I hope he coaches us for the next 10 years.
One thing to keep in mind is that we came up against a team that will probably finish top 4 tonight.
Next game vs Brisbane. Even though I think we'd be better off in the short term to play the old hands, I reckon we stick with the youth for the Brisbane game, as brisbane are a bottom 4 side, and try to get the young guys in some winning teams, which will work out better for the long term.
One thing to keep in mind is that we came up against a team that will probably finish top 4 tonight.
Next game vs Brisbane. Even though I think we'd be better off in the short term to play the old hands, I reckon we stick with the youth for the Brisbane game, as brisbane are a bottom 4 side, and try to get the young guys in some winning teams, which will work out better for the long term.
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That's not how the interview reads.Richter wrote:Is also on www.afl.com.au click on picture of RL on the left hand side.
Shows that RL clearly sees what the choice is....
1/ Back to Blake, McQualter and Eddy to try to relive the glories of the last two years, but go one better....
or....
2/ The Brave New World, in which new young enthusiastic but inexperienced and at times undisciplined players are brought in.
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'The Challenge' is yours RL.
Be brave Ross, I implore you.....
The choice is between McQualters, Blakes and Bakers or Grams, Dal Santos and Gilberts (my attribution, not Lyon's) because at least he knows he will get honest effort from the former.
Last night was not lost by our fringe players.
"... You want to pose a threat to the opposition in as many ways as you can, both defensively and offensively. We've got a responsibility to explore all those possibilities - and we will."