Who to cultivate as a full forward?
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Who to cultivate as a full forward?
Who to cultivate as a full forward?
Roo would be wasted there. He is the best CHF going around, and they are more important than FF. Remember, Darrell Baldock would have had Plugger at CHF, but because of his asthma he did not have the necessary stamina for CHF.
For me a FF must be able to lead and mark, kick accurately, and be fairly mobile.
I cant see any stand outs as potential full forwards on our list. Cahill was recruited as one, he is in the running. I would have Lynch, Siposs, Walsh, Archer, as well under consideration.
Roo would be wasted there. He is the best CHF going around, and they are more important than FF. Remember, Darrell Baldock would have had Plugger at CHF, but because of his asthma he did not have the necessary stamina for CHF.
For me a FF must be able to lead and mark, kick accurately, and be fairly mobile.
I cant see any stand outs as potential full forwards on our list. Cahill was recruited as one, he is in the running. I would have Lynch, Siposs, Walsh, Archer, as well under consideration.
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im not sure there is a real need for a specific full forward as such ...the game has changed to the point where that one focal point in attack is not a good option as the zones floods ect will really minimise the opertunity of the full forward .. i think the idea of haveing a strong attacking forward line with multiple options is the best way to attack ... the whole kick it long to plugga is long dead
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Exactly. Just look at 3 of the last 4 flags and who was FF.st_Trav_ofWA wrote:im not sure there is a real need for a specific full forward as such ...the game has changed to the point where that one focal point in attack is not a good option as the zones floods ect will really minimise the opertunity of the full forward .. i think the idea of haveing a strong attacking forward line with multiple options is the best way to attack ... the whole kick it long to plugga is long dead
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st_Trav_ofWA wrote:im not sure there is a real need for a specific full forward as such ...the game has changed to the point where that one focal point in attack is not a good option as the zones floods ect will really minimise the opertunity of the full forward .. i think the idea of haveing a strong attacking forward line with multiple options is the best way to attack ... the whole kick it long to plugga is long dead
Tis why I favour all of Roo, Gilbert and Stanley playing as mobile forward targets in 2011.
All have good pace...are very mobile and can apply defensive pressure as well as offensive pressure.
Kosi in 2010 was often run off with contempt.....good luck trying that with Stanley.
I fell out of love with Kois in 2010, for with the way the game has changed his lack of offensive pressure, and poor skills once the ball hit the ground meant that he was a real liability. In 2011, he will need to re-invent himself or fall by the wayside.
Stanley needs to up his concentration though...and not just his body mass.
Walsh is a smokie..
Add to the talls: Milne, Schneider and Gamble and you have a good blend.
Rotating through as well would be mids such as Steven, or Armo who know how to snag a goal as well as Dal.
Our rucks will drift forward on occasion to present.
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It'll be interesting to see if Lyon is even considering Walsh for the forward line. At the moment the only 2 that have been signalled are Stanley and Gamble - perhaps not for full forward but up that area anyway.
I kinda like SainterK's idea of Lynch because he has the potential to play the position less traditionally if he has the mobility. Haven't seen enough of him to know whether he has the X factor in front of goal but worth visiting. Does anyone know how he goes over 20 metres?
I kinda like SainterK's idea of Lynch because he has the potential to play the position less traditionally if he has the mobility. Haven't seen enough of him to know whether he has the X factor in front of goal but worth visiting. Does anyone know how he goes over 20 metres?
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Hope he's working on his tank then.... he could do a Dane Swan and be untaggable next year.saintsRrising wrote:BJ will have the 007 licence to go where he likes and will play everywhere...Kilda wrote:I still reckon Goddard is the go for stints at FF. I'd rotate him between there, in the midfield and as a sweeper down back.
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Walsh is our next FF
Walsh is our next FF - he is the obvious choice! Carr & Archer a at least another season away. IMO lynch will play down back if any where. Walsh is our next FF
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Why is it obvious. Are you basing it on the huge amount of goals he got this year at Sandy?WinnersOnly wrote:Walsh is our next FF - he is the obvious choice! Carr & Archer a at least another season away. IMO lynch will play down back if any where. Walsh is our next FF
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Just for interest, here is the Best & Fairest voting for Sandy.
Seniors Best & Fairest Results (And Nick Sautner was Leading Goalkicker again)
Shane Tregear 79
Tom Simpkin 62
James Magner 57
Chris Irving 52
David Gallagher 51
Jack Steven 39
Tommy Walsh 38
Alistair Smith 38
Tom Lynch 37
Nick Sautner 31
Ben McEvoy 23
David Armitage 21
Luke Miles 18
Rhys Stanley 16
Adam Pattison 15
Raphael Clarke 15
Brad Howard 13
Robert Eddy 12
Jarryn Geary 11
Steven Gaertner 11
Steven King 10
Ricky Ferraro 9
Paul Cahill 8
Leigh Fisher 6
Maddi Hardiman 5
Michael Lourey 3
Jarryd Lyons 3
Will Johnson 1
Daniel Archer 1
Seniors Best & Fairest Results (And Nick Sautner was Leading Goalkicker again)
Shane Tregear 79
Tom Simpkin 62
James Magner 57
Chris Irving 52
David Gallagher 51
Jack Steven 39
Tommy Walsh 38
Alistair Smith 38
Tom Lynch 37
Nick Sautner 31
Ben McEvoy 23
David Armitage 21
Luke Miles 18
Rhys Stanley 16
Adam Pattison 15
Raphael Clarke 15
Brad Howard 13
Robert Eddy 12
Jarryn Geary 11
Steven Gaertner 11
Steven King 10
Ricky Ferraro 9
Paul Cahill 8
Leigh Fisher 6
Maddi Hardiman 5
Michael Lourey 3
Jarryd Lyons 3
Will Johnson 1
Daniel Archer 1
Re: Walsh is our next FF
Yeah I don't understand this one, in his only season of AFL of any sort didn't Walsh play a fair bit down back? And wasn't Lynch a FF all throughout junior career? (granted Lynch played as a bit of a floater last year but still).plugger66 wrote:Why is it obvious. Are you basing it on the huge amount of goals he got this year at Sandy?WinnersOnly wrote:Walsh is our next FF - he is the obvious choice! Carr & Archer a at least another season away. IMO lynch will play down back if any where. Walsh is our next FF
My knowledge of the saints list must be pretty rank as I've never heard of Carr!! Lynch is most likely to play a forward role out of those not playing already last year, Gamble will be good as he can play taller than he is. At best, we might get a few games out of Walsh this year, but I'm really not expecting much from him at all.
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Re: Walsh is our next FF
Walsh was played down back a lot to teachhim the game as it is easier to learn with someone leading you to the ball.St Ick wrote:
in his only season of AFL of any sort didn't Walsh play a fair bit down back? .
He was also often played forward though.
In Ireland his position was what we would view as the key forward.
I would estimate that the Saints would be trying to develop him onto a key forward. This is not to say that he may not become a defender....but that the club will be mainly trying to get him to become an AFL forward.
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Re: Walsh is our next FF
No doubt Goddard would be a sensation as full forward, but I very much doubt we'll ever see him played there regularly. Ross considers him too valuable elsewhere.
Riewoldt is obviously one of the key forwards. The other key position I would give to Gilbert at this stage as he is ready to go now (so long as he improves his kicking).
Walsh certainly has the build of a power forward and may be a smokey and Stanley also could be a chance. It will be interesting to see how they go in the pre-season.
I think Kosi's time as a key forward has come and gone. He's not mobile enough and, if the contested marks aren't sticking, struggles to make an impact. He's too easy to run off as well.
Riewoldt is obviously one of the key forwards. The other key position I would give to Gilbert at this stage as he is ready to go now (so long as he improves his kicking).
Walsh certainly has the build of a power forward and may be a smokey and Stanley also could be a chance. It will be interesting to see how they go in the pre-season.
I think Kosi's time as a key forward has come and gone. He's not mobile enough and, if the contested marks aren't sticking, struggles to make an impact. He's too easy to run off as well.
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Well if that is the case with Kosi then his time at the Saints is up. I think you will fond he will continue to play forward and be used occasionally in the ruck.bigcarl wrote:No doubt Goddard would be a sensation as full forward, but I very much doubt we'll ever see him played there regularly. Ross considers him too valuable elsewhere.
Riewoldt is obviously one of the key forwards. The other key position I would give to Gilbert at this stage as he is ready to go now (so long as he improves his kicking).
Walsh certainly has the build of a power forward and may be a smokey and Stanley also could be a chance. It will be interesting to see how they go in the pre-season.
I think Kosi's time as a key forward has come and gone. He's not mobile enough and, if the contested marks aren't sticking, struggles to make an impact. He's too easy to run off as well.
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I am going for a rotation at FF, i think we may see Stanley in the spot a bit, i sure hope he puts some beef on over the pre season. We will become more reliant on the snipers, Milne and Schneider with other players running into the forward line, Gilbert, Goddard and Steven making his mark, Gamble another to think about as well. I think with the new bench rules Kosi will be mainly in the ruck.
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