Eddy Gone?
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just weirds me out. so lyon had faith in eddy for 2 gf's and 2 seasons despite him barely touching the ball and now suddenly loses faith?
sometimes i wonder.... i really do . how he played in 2 gfs ahead of armo ill never know.
sometimes i wonder.... i really do . how he played in 2 gfs ahead of armo ill never know.
Eddy, Andrew McQualter, Sean Dempster and Michael Gardiner - who was injured in the grand final draw and missed the replay - are still to re-sign. Former rookie Luke Miles is also yet to re-sign
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wasnt armo inured late season which interrupted his match fitness/continuity?Con Gorozidis wrote:just weirds me out. so lyon had faith in eddy for 2 gf's and 2 seasons despite him barely touching the ball and now suddenly loses faith?
sometimes i wonder.... i really do . how he played in 2 gfs ahead of armo ill never know.
Eddy, Andrew McQualter, Sean Dempster and Michael Gardiner - who was injured in the grand final draw and missed the replay - are still to re-sign. Former rookie Luke Miles is also yet to re-sign
I wouldnt negotiate too hard with Mqualter either just quietly....
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3 tackles and 5 possessions a game is worth about $150 a game x 22 = $330 a yearTeflon wrote:wasnt armo inured late season which interrupted his match fitness/continuity?Con Gorozidis wrote:just weirds me out. so lyon had faith in eddy for 2 gf's and 2 seasons despite him barely touching the ball and now suddenly loses faith?
sometimes i wonder.... i really do . how he played in 2 gfs ahead of armo ill never know.
Eddy, Andrew McQualter, Sean Dempster and Michael Gardiner - who was injured in the grand final draw and missed the replay - are still to re-sign. Former rookie Luke Miles is also yet to re-sign
I wouldnt negotiate too hard with Mqualter either just quietly....
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Yes he reinjured his knee late in the season, it was still heavily strapped when he returned for the Adelaide game...Teflon wrote:wasnt armo inured late season which interrupted his match fitness/continuity?Con Gorozidis wrote:just weirds me out. so lyon had faith in eddy for 2 gf's and 2 seasons despite him barely touching the ball and now suddenly loses faith?
sometimes i wonder.... i really do . how he played in 2 gfs ahead of armo ill never know.
Eddy, Andrew McQualter, Sean Dempster and Michael Gardiner - who was injured in the grand final draw and missed the replay - are still to re-sign. Former rookie Luke Miles is also yet to re-sign
I wouldnt negotiate too hard with Mqualter either just quietly....
I was pushing for Armo to perhaps play as defensive forward in place of Eddy in the replay due to his injury in the first, perhaps Armo simply lacked match fitness or isn't capable yet of being anything other than an inside mid?
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Well if this ends up being true then you can only reason that we will in fact see a fair modification to our game style next year.Bardon Saint wrote:IMO, Eddy is a hardworking player he does the team thing. However I would replace him with someone who could do that but then also offer the occasional bit of X. - A bit of dash, creativity, a clutch goal, etc.
I suspect the game plan will get a bit more than a "tinker" or a "tweak".
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I'm not so sure. I think that the likes of eddy, mini and a couple of others do not have the ability to offer anything more than their team role. Learning to be a good defensive forward would take a great deal of discipline to adhere to a role. The ability to be creative, add flair, kick a goal, burst through a pack etc, is something that a player either has or doesn't. Much harder to learn, it comes from within.Dr Spaceman wrote:Well if this ends up being true then you can only reason that we will in fact see a fair modification to our game style next year.Bardon Saint wrote:IMO, Eddy is a hardworking player he does the team thing. However I would replace him with someone who could do that but then also offer the occasional bit of X. - A bit of dash, creativity, a clutch goal, etc.
I suspect the game plan will get a bit more than a "tinker" or a "tweak".
If they were replaced with players who can do the same job but offer a little bit of offensive pressure/more upside than I would go for this.
Therefore, same game plan, with more upside because there are players on the park who can create some defence directly but also indirectly (goals etc). Meh, just some thoughts.
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EDDY has more to offer than others on the list !
EDDY has more to offer than others on the list ! Maybe he is asking more than the SAINTS can afford to pay.
To be honest I would off load Mcqualter in a heart beat. If RL is not going to play him in the back pocket he has no benefit to the side - simply a list clogger. What about CARR & MILES we cant hold players on potential alone.
Playing McQualter and Eddy as stopping forwards with zero goal kicking potential is what cost us GF. Imagine if we had of played Stevens & Armitage and got 3-4 goals from them.
IMO Eddy would develop into a very good run with player or even HBF if given the opportunity. But obviously the club thinks they have those positions covered.
To be honest I would off load Mcqualter in a heart beat. If RL is not going to play him in the back pocket he has no benefit to the side - simply a list clogger. What about CARR & MILES we cant hold players on potential alone.
Playing McQualter and Eddy as stopping forwards with zero goal kicking potential is what cost us GF. Imagine if we had of played Stevens & Armitage and got 3-4 goals from them.
IMO Eddy would develop into a very good run with player or even HBF if given the opportunity. But obviously the club thinks they have those positions covered.
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Re: EDDY has more to offer than others on the list !
Yeah - the 17-5 at the clearances had nothing to do with it.WinnersOnly wrote:Playing McQualter and Eddy as stopping forwards with zero goal kicking potential is what cost us GF.
Blame the fringe players all you like. It was our guns that cost us a flag.
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Re: EDDY has more to offer than others on the list !
Guns or Fringies it doesn't matter.vacuous space wrote:Yeah - the 17-5 at the clearances had nothing to do with it.WinnersOnly wrote:Playing McQualter and Eddy as stopping forwards with zero goal kicking potential is what cost us GF.
Blame the fringe players all you like. It was our guns that cost us a flag.
It takes a team effort to win and a team effort to lose.
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Re: EDDY has more to offer than others on the list !
17 - 5 which final are you referring to?vacuous space wrote:Yeah - the 17-5 at the clearances had nothing to do with it.WinnersOnly wrote:Playing McQualter and Eddy as stopping forwards with zero goal kicking potential is what cost us GF.
Blame the fringe players all you like. It was our guns that cost us a flag.
Exactly what I have indicated in other threads. Obviously we need more midfield strength and I am really concerned as to whether McEvoy will progress to the Ruckman poeple seem to think he will.
For me he has no spring or leap whatsoever and will struggle to become a solid or dominant ruckman.
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Re: EDDY has more to offer than others on the list !
The article didn't even say he was in contract negotiations WO, maybe he just isn't in their plans.WinnersOnly wrote:EDDY has more to offer than others on the list ! Maybe he is asking more than the SAINTS can afford to pay.
To be honest I would off load Mcqualter in a heart beat. If RL is not going to play him in the back pocket he has no benefit to the side - simply a list clogger. What about CARR & MILES we cant hold players on potential alone.
Playing McQualter and Eddy as stopping forwards with zero goal kicking potential is what cost us GF. Imagine if we had of played Stevens & Armitage and got 3-4 goals from them.
IMO Eddy would develop into a very good run with player or even HBF if given the opportunity. But obviously the club thinks they have those positions covered.
I'd be even more surprised if Mini goes, it would be tough to be regarded highly enough to be made part of the leadership group, and then be delisted at years end.
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We lost the GF as we didn't play a good enough team game, went too defensive too early, and the forwards we had, got beaten easily. Whether Eddy fits the plan or not, he is definately not a natural forward, though probably was selected due to injuries to the likes of Armo and Steven who would seem to me, to be better suited in the forward half.
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Re: EDDY has more to offer than others on the list !
I don't know whether Mini will go or stay but his elevation to the leadership group would have been on the back of a much improved 2009 from previous seasons and (I suspect) a pick up in attitude from that that had seen him delisted in the past. I think he might have been the poster boy for players turning their careers around.SainterK wrote:I'd be even more surprised if Mini goes, it would be tough to be regarded highly enough to be made part of the leadership group, and then be delisted at years end.
As it turns out 2009 was the anomoly season. It's a pity it wasn't recognised far earlier last year and left until there was very little option to replace him. IMO.
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Re: EDDY has more to offer than others on the list !
I never quite got the 1 game at Sandy bit.Saints43 wrote:I don't know whether Mini will go or stay but his elevation to the leadership group would have been on the back of a much improved 2009 from previous seasons and (I suspect) a pick up in attitude from that that had seen him delisted in the past. I think he might have been the poster boy for players turning their careers around.SainterK wrote:I'd be even more surprised if Mini goes, it would be tough to be regarded highly enough to be made part of the leadership group, and then be delisted at years end.
As it turns out 2009 was the anomoly season. It's a pity it wasn't recognised far earlier last year and left until there was very little option to replace him. IMO.
Finally gets dropped, plays for Sandy and doesn't do much, then straight back in
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That was the chance then and there to do something; either find a replacement or give Mini a chance to find form - but we never did neither.
Re: EDDY has more to offer than others on the list !
Yes his 2009 season was a remarkable turnaround, and you are probably right that he was elevated to the leadership group for those reasons.Saints43 wrote:I don't know whether Mini will go or stay but his elevation to the leadership group would have been on the back of a much improved 2009 from previous seasons and (I suspect) a pick up in attitude from that that had seen him delisted in the past. I think he might have been the poster boy for players turning their careers around.SainterK wrote:I'd be even more surprised if Mini goes, it would be tough to be regarded highly enough to be made part of the leadership group, and then be delisted at years end.
As it turns out 2009 was the anomoly season. It's a pity it wasn't recognised far earlier last year and left until there was very little option to replace him. IMO.
I'd say he will be retained (but what do I know) but the fact it took to the cut off day may give him another kick up the bum?
I excused him initially after hearing he had a groin operation and missed this years preseason, but the lack of confidence seemed linger well and truly into the year.
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