Recruiting

Bigmal47 · Post: # 1014258Post **Bigmal47** » Mon 11 Oct 2010 8:34am

Recruiting staff must lift their game, recent history does not look good
2009 traded for Lovett
2008 Lynch (13) over looked Beams & Hannebery
2007 McEvoy (9) over looked Rioli & Taylor
2006 Armitage (9) over looked Riewoldt & Dawes
2005 traded for Fergus Watts
2004 Mc Qualter (17) over looked Lecras & Van Berlo
2003 Clarke (8) over looked Mundy & Chaplin
mostly not contributing a lot, but with the players over looked we would have a handy outfit

Life Long Saint · Mon 11 Oct 2010 8:49am

FFS...Give it a rest...

Hind-sight drafting is the easiest game in town.
How many threads do we need on our drafting history?

I also note that you don't have a ruckmen in the players that we should have taken...Where is your succession plan for Gardiner if we didn't take McEvoy? And who is to say that he won't be a good player for us? He is still a kid. How many ruckmen set the world alight at 20?

So, genius, tell us who we should be drafting with our fist pick this year instead of telling us who we missed six years ago!

Dr Spaceman · Mon 11 Oct 2010 8:56am

I sure similar stories could be told about most, if not all AFL clubs, ie took player A when player B was still available etc.

I just don't have the time or the inclination to do it.

Con Gorozidis · Mon 11 Oct 2010 9:49am

I have been critical of Ross Lyon saying he was a bad development coach.
However after seeing a recent presentation (courtesy of the pies) - i think its not lyons fault but an organisational issue at the saints:

Saints recruiting/List development expenses in 2009 was $480,000 (13th in AFL)
Pies was $1.2 m (2nd in AFL)

saintlee · Post: # 1014268Post **saintlee** » Mon 11 Oct 2010 9:51am

McEvoy has been a good pickup. Not many ruckman play AFL level games at his age. And he is only getting better.

Also, too early to tell with Lynch. Give him another couple of years, then you can start to make judgements.

Eastern · Post: # 1014272Post **Eastern** » Mon 11 Oct 2010 9:56am

saintlee wrote:McEvoy has been a good pickup. Not many ruckman play AFL level games at his age. And he is only getting better.

Also, too early to tell with Lynch. Give him another couple of years, then you can start to make judgements.

I think we should re-visit who we did and didn't take in the 2008 Draft at this time next year !!

saintlee · Post: # 1014275Post **saintlee** » Mon 11 Oct 2010 10:00am

Eastern wrote:
saintlee wrote:McEvoy has been a good pickup. Not many ruckman play AFL level games at his age. And he is only getting better.

Also, too early to tell with Lynch. Give him another couple of years, then you can start to make judgements.
I think we should re-visit who we did and didn't take in the 2008 Draft at this time next year !!

3 years in the system by then. Thats still pretty early to make judgements in most cases. Especially when we've had such a strong team for the past 5-6 years. But yes, I would expect him to come on a bit next year or will be disappointed.

Middo · Post: # 1014280Post **Middo** » Mon 11 Oct 2010 10:09am

Life Long Saint wrote:FFS...Give it a rest...

Hind-sight drafting is the easiest game in town.
How many threads do we need on our drafting history?

I also note that you don't have a ruckmen in the players that we should have taken...Where is your succession plan for Gardiner if we didn't take McEvoy? And who is to say that he won't be a good player for us? He is still a kid. How many ruckmen set the world alight at 20?

So, genius, tell us who we should be drafting with our fist pick this year instead of telling us who we missed six years ago!

Maybe he was going to throw Beams in as a ruckman as he seems prepared to have a go at anything ...

Dr Spaceman · Mon 11 Oct 2010 10:22am

Middo wrote:
Life Long Saint wrote:FFS...Give it a rest...

Hind-sight drafting is the easiest game in town.
How many threads do we need on our drafting history?

I also note that you don't have a ruckmen in the players that we should have taken...Where is your succession plan for Gardiner if we didn't take McEvoy? And who is to say that he won't be a good player for us? He is still a kid. How many ruckmen set the world alight at 20?

So, genius, tell us who we should be drafting with our fist pick this year instead of telling us who we missed six years ago!

Maybe he was going to throw Beams in as a ruckman as he seems prepared to have a go at anything ...

Good point Middo.

But is Beams a genuine ruckman or is he only good as "third man up"?

Con Gorozidis · Mon 11 Oct 2010 10:50am

can somone tell me the exact names of the recruiting staff working the last week for st kilda?

pies recruiting/list development budget is 3 x ours.

i havent heard a whimper. I sure as hope RL isnt expected to work the whole week himself? what happened to football first?

Eastern · Post: # 1014317Post **Eastern** » Mon 11 Oct 2010 10:59am

John Peake is our National Recruiting Manager

John Beveridge is our Recruiting Consultant (semi-retired)

Greg Hutchison is our General Manager-Football Operations

Matthew Drain WAS our General Manager-List Management (resigned 2 weeks ago) !!

meher baba · Mon 11 Oct 2010 11:17am

Dr Spaceman wrote:But is Beams a genuine ruckman or is he only good as "third man up"?

Con Gorozidis · Mon 11 Oct 2010 11:25am

Eastern wrote:John Peake is our National Recruiting Manager

John Beveridge is our Recruiting Consultant (semi-retired)

Greg Hutchison is our General Manager-Football Operations

Matthew Drain WAS our General Manager-List Management (resigned 2 weeks ago) !!

ok. well that sounds pretty bad and half assed! so no surprises we have been quiet. certainly not RL's fault. GIVE THE GUY SOME GOD DARN STAFF!