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50 against Joey
Heard the umpire explaining to Joey that he has to allow for Buddys natural ark, it cant be fair that he gets a larger protected space than others
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Re: 50 against Joey
Especially as he wasn't allowed to have a natural arc when he was having that shot after the siren at the end of the second half. Silly. And unfair.FraserGehrig wrote:Heard the umpire explaining to Joey that he has to allow for Buddys natural ark, it cant be fair that he gets a larger protected space than others
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Re: 50 against Joey
I thought he went way off his line for that shot, AGAINST his natural arc.Thinline wrote:Especially as he wasn't allowed to have a natural arc when he was having that shot after the siren at the end of the second half. Silly. And unfair.FraserGehrig wrote:Heard the umpire explaining to Joey that he has to allow for Buddys natural ark, it cant be fair that he gets a larger protected space than others
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Re: 50 against Joey
Its the Stkilda rule.....FraserGehrig wrote:Heard the umpire explaining to Joey that he has to allow for Buddys natural ark, it cant be fair that he gets a larger protected space than others
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We should be thankful that his natural arc doesn't involve running directly through the goal square, otherwise he'd have kicked 12 goals!saint3d wrote:I wonder where the term natural arc appears in the rule book.
Besides how ridiculous it sounds to begin with, he was running at least thirty degrees off his line.
Re: 50 against Joey
Yes that makes sense. Joey was stupid. There was no play on call.jonesy wrote:Its the Stkilda rule.....FraserGehrig wrote:Heard the umpire explaining to Joey that he has to allow for Buddys natural ark, it cant be fair that he gets a larger protected space than others
One rule for one,another rule for the other 15
laughable
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Re: 50 against Joey
plugger66 wrote:Yes that makes sense. Joey was stupid. There was no play on call.jonesy wrote:Its the Stkilda rule.....FraserGehrig wrote:Heard the umpire explaining to Joey that he has to allow for Buddys natural ark, it cant be fair that he gets a larger protected space than others
One rule for one,another rule for the other 15
laughable
It makes sense when someone go's on a 8 meter ark off there line that it's play on. You heard the umpirie though ...it was "his natural ark"....fair dinkum. Absolute farce...... a discraceful blight on our game tonight was. They are ruining it quick fast if they continue to single handedly determine results like this
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Re: 50 against Joey
Agreed he probably should have waited until the play-on call came. But how long do you wait? If you've played footy all your life, you know when someone's run off their line. Buddy shouldn't be allowed to improve the angle of his kick b/c of some 'natural arc.' And if he's got a natural arc that they are allowing for - why wasn't he allowed to use it on the half time siren?plugger66 wrote:Yes that makes sense. Joey was stupid. There was no play on call.jonesy wrote:Its the Stkilda rule.....FraserGehrig wrote:Heard the umpire explaining to Joey that he has to allow for Buddys natural ark, it cant be fair that he gets a larger protected space than others
One rule for one,another rule for the other 15
laughable
Sorry but the umpy's had an absolute shocker tonight. Were way too technical - just let the boys play for christ sake!
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I heard the umpire explain to Joey (on teh replay) that it was Buddy's 'natural arc'.
Could someone who knows the rules please explain where I can find 'natural arc' in either the rulebook or the DVD so that I can better understand how a player on the boundary line can move 5 steps to his side without it being 'play on' and yet others can move 1 step and be called to 'play on'?
Who determines each player's 'natural arc'?
And was this the same umpire who got the Milne free kick wrong in the last quarter of the Geelong game?
Could someone who knows the rules please explain where I can find 'natural arc' in either the rulebook or the DVD so that I can better understand how a player on the boundary line can move 5 steps to his side without it being 'play on' and yet others can move 1 step and be called to 'play on'?
Who determines each player's 'natural arc'?
And was this the same umpire who got the Milne free kick wrong in the last quarter of the Geelong game?
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Re: 50 against Joey
Well every time he kicks, to me he has exactly the same ark. Forgetting all that though the umpire must call play on.jonesy wrote:plugger66 wrote:Yes that makes sense. Joey was stupid. There was no play on call.jonesy wrote:Its the Stkilda rule.....FraserGehrig wrote:Heard the umpire explaining to Joey that he has to allow for Buddys natural ark, it cant be fair that he gets a larger protected space than others
One rule for one,another rule for the other 15
laughable
It makes sense when someone go's on a 8 meter ark off there line that it's play on. You heard the umpirie though ...it was "his natural ark"....fair dinkum. Absolute farce...... a discraceful blight on our game tonight was. They are ruining it quick fast if they continue to single handedly determine results like this
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Apparently its a new rule - the "Buddy Rule"Mr Magic wrote:I heard the umpire explain to Joey (on teh replay) that it was Buddy's 'natural arc'.
Could someone who knows the rules please explain where I can find 'natural arc' in either the rulebook or the DVD so that I can better understand how a player on the boundary line can move 5 steps to his side without it being 'play on' and yet others can move 1 step and be called to 'play on'?
Who determines each player's 'natural arc'?
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Re: 50 against Joey
Shocking call, only player in the league who gets the allowance. Double standards.FraserGehrig wrote:Heard the umpire explaining to Joey that he has to allow for Buddys natural ark, it cant be fair that he gets a larger protected space than others
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You know the rules are flexible against us don't you? Make them up however you can...it'simple. They don't like Bakes,Milne,Schneider....and have a lasting hatred from the GT days. Probably better that we cleared these lot off at years end,maybe we can play on a level playing field again. Then us supporters can go into games again maybe knowing that we will have a fair game officiatedMr Magic wrote:I heard the umpire explain to Joey (on teh replay) that it was Buddy's 'natural arc'.
Could someone who knows the rules please explain where I can find 'natural arc' in either the rulebook or the DVD so that I can better understand how a player on the boundary line can move 5 steps to his side without it being 'play on' and yet others can move 1 step and be called to 'play on'?
Who determines each player's 'natural arc'?
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Re: 50 against Joey
By that logic Milne should be allowed to run around on either side. His natural arc puts him at right angles with the goals.plugger66 wrote:Well every time he kicks, to me he has exactly the same ark. Forgetting all that though the umpire must call play on.jonesy wrote:plugger66 wrote:Yes that makes sense. Joey was stupid. There was no play on call.jonesy wrote:Its the Stkilda rule.....FraserGehrig wrote:Heard the umpire explaining to Joey that he has to allow for Buddys natural ark, it cant be fair that he gets a larger protected space than others
One rule for one,another rule for the other 15
laughable
It makes sense when someone go's on a 8 meter ark off there line that it's play on. You heard the umpirie though ...it was "his natural ark"....fair dinkum. Absolute farce...... a discraceful blight on our game tonight was. They are ruining it quick fast if they continue to single handedly determine results like this
What are you saying? that they wanted the hawks to win.jonesy wrote:You know the rules are flexible against us don't you? Make them up however you can...it'simple. They don't like Bakes,Milne,Schneider....and have a lasting hatred from the GT days. Probably better that we cleared these lot off at years end,maybe we can play on a level playing field again. Then us supporters can go into games again maybe knowing that we will have a fair game officiatedMr Magic wrote:I heard the umpire explain to Joey (on teh replay) that it was Buddy's 'natural arc'.
Could someone who knows the rules please explain where I can find 'natural arc' in either the rulebook or the DVD so that I can better understand how a player on the boundary line can move 5 steps to his side without it being 'play on' and yet others can move 1 step and be called to 'play on'?
Who determines each player's 'natural arc'?
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You're mistaken.plugger66 wrote:Why would he run to kick like that if it wasnt his natural ark. He wasnt opening up the angle for a shot at goal. The umpires were poor toniight but that decision was 100% correct.
Of course it was opening up the angle of the goal.
He was on the boundary line at the Lockett end, kicking on his left. He ran inwards, not outwards to the boundary line.
It was only correct if/because the umpire didn't call play on. You can't say the umpire shouldn't have called play on, though.plugger66 wrote:Why would he run to kick like that if it wasnt his natural ark. He wasnt opening up the angle for a shot at goal. The umpires were poor toniight but that decision was 100% correct.
Not to mant left footers run outwards. Whatch him kick every time it the same. Did the umpire call play on?Mr Magic wrote:You're mistaken.plugger66 wrote:Why would he run to kick like that if it wasnt his natural ark. He wasnt opening up the angle for a shot at goal. The umpires were poor toniight but that decision was 100% correct.
Of course it was opening up the angle of the goal.
He was on the boundary line at the Lockett end, kicking on his left. He ran inwards, not outwards to the boundary line.