A New Form Of Cowardice
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A New Form Of Cowardice
Cowardice in football is usually associaed with a lack of physical courage.
Jason Blake has proven on many times that he comes pack full of physical courage.
But their is another form of cowardice.
Players are trained not to kick to a contest.
Instead they are trained to kick the ball back or sideways to a free player.
However failing to kick the ball quickly and forward allows opponents to flood ahead of the ball.
The result is that later it is almost impossible to find an opponent free ahead of the ball.
Kicking the ball sideways only works if a chain of kicks ends up with a teammate on the wing on the opposite side of the ground running goalward.
But all too often the ball movement is too slow resulting in the ball being passed back whence it came or in a turn over.
This is not cowardice as it is what the players are trained to do.
But the cowardice is lacking the guts to accept responsibility for your kicking.
In the case of Jason Blake after a mark, he kicks the ball sideways or back without having even bothered to look forward to see if there is a free player ahead of him.
He is scared that if he sees a free player ahead of him and kicks to him, he may miss his target and be responsible for a turnover.
He has brought this form of cowardice to a new art form.
This week he had players free ahead of him but never saw them, a few sideways kicks later a fellow defender misses his target and the crowd groans as the turnover results in a goal.
That fellow defender then takes the crowd's rap for Blake's cowardice.
Am I the only one who noticed that St Kilda's goals of recent weeks have almost all resulted from the quick forward movement of the ball before opponents could flood ahead of the ball.
Jason Blake has proven on many times that he comes pack full of physical courage.
But their is another form of cowardice.
Players are trained not to kick to a contest.
Instead they are trained to kick the ball back or sideways to a free player.
However failing to kick the ball quickly and forward allows opponents to flood ahead of the ball.
The result is that later it is almost impossible to find an opponent free ahead of the ball.
Kicking the ball sideways only works if a chain of kicks ends up with a teammate on the wing on the opposite side of the ground running goalward.
But all too often the ball movement is too slow resulting in the ball being passed back whence it came or in a turn over.
This is not cowardice as it is what the players are trained to do.
But the cowardice is lacking the guts to accept responsibility for your kicking.
In the case of Jason Blake after a mark, he kicks the ball sideways or back without having even bothered to look forward to see if there is a free player ahead of him.
He is scared that if he sees a free player ahead of him and kicks to him, he may miss his target and be responsible for a turnover.
He has brought this form of cowardice to a new art form.
This week he had players free ahead of him but never saw them, a few sideways kicks later a fellow defender misses his target and the crowd groans as the turnover results in a goal.
That fellow defender then takes the crowd's rap for Blake's cowardice.
Am I the only one who noticed that St Kilda's goals of recent weeks have almost all resulted from the quick forward movement of the ball before opponents could flood ahead of the ball.
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Re: A New Form Of Cowardice
Good call on this, however as emphasised by the Mark Stevens article, Blakey along with Zac and Bakes have clearly been instructed to get the ball to Gilbo, Grammy, Chips and BJ rather than try and spot-up long-range targets ahead, so I feel you've been harsh on him.ace wrote: Am I the only one who noticted that St Kilda's goals of recent weeks have almost all resulted from the quick forward movement of the ball before opponents could flood ahead of the ball.
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No, I wouldn't call it cowardice, just trained into them.
But I understand your frustration, thought last night there we're quite a few time we could have gone forward and didn't.
I would have backed our players to beat their Richmond opponent in a contest.
But I understand your frustration, thought last night there we're quite a few time we could have gone forward and didn't.
I would have backed our players to beat their Richmond opponent in a contest.
Except for the sanity nothing much has been lost.
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I can't believe I'm going to be the first person to call you a d**khead for what you're saying - d**khead!
FFS who are you to call someone like Jason Blake a coward? - some spineless gnat sitting in the comfort of his lounge room calling one of the gutsiest players in the team a coward for doing exactly what he's been drilled to do.
You're type make my skin crawl!
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FFS who are you to call someone like Jason Blake a coward? - some spineless gnat sitting in the comfort of his lounge room calling one of the gutsiest players in the team a coward for doing exactly what he's been drilled to do.
You're type make my skin crawl!
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+1thejiggingsaint wrote:Blakey is one of the gutsiest and bravest players in the game, and to use the word "cowardice" in the same sentence as him is not appropriate (in my opinion)
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Absolute twaddle and I am not surprised that you are going to be abused about your OP.But the cowardice is lacking the guts to accept responsibility for your kicking.
In the case of Jason Blake after a mark, he kicks the ball sideways or back without having even bothered to look forward to see if there is a free player ahead of him.
He is scared that if he sees a free player ahead of him and kicks to him, he may miss his target and be responsible for a turnover.
He has brought this form of cowardice to a new art form
I think you need to understand the meaning of the word "coward" a little bit better.
Then, I think you need to get familiar with the term "game plan".
Then, go to training, and call Jason Blake a coward and see how far it gets you.
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[quote="thejiggingsaint"]Blakey is one of the gutsiest and bravest players in the game, and to use the word "cowardice" in the same sentence as him is not appropriate (in my opinion)[/quote
+3
I just cannot believe what I just read in the OP players follow the team plan that is directed by the coaching panel.
We have no cowards in our team!
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I just cannot believe what I just read in the OP players follow the team plan that is directed by the coaching panel.
We have no cowards in our team!
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It is not judgement when they don't even look forward.borderbarry wrote:I also would not call it cowardice. Just poor judgement.
Just wait while looking sideways until someone has run far enough away from his opponent towards the oppostion goal.
Not even looking forward is the cowardice.
Gee I might see a target if I look, therefore I better not look forward.
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You are not going to lose your job to AI.
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thejiggingsaint wrote:Blakey is one of the gutsiest and bravest players in the game, and to use the word "cowardice" in the same sentence as him is not appropriate (in my opinion)
No question regarding Blake's physical courage, just read my second line.
The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
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If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
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Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
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When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
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If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
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I said that the sideways kicking was trained but I can assure you they are not trained to avoid looking forward.saint1974 wrote:thejiggingsaint wrote:Blakey is one of the gutsiest and bravest players in the game, and to use the word "cowardice" in the same sentence as him is not appropriate (in my opinion)[/quote
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I just cannot believe what I just read in the OP players follow the team plan that is directed by the coaching panel.
We have no cowards in our team!
It is the refusing to look forward that I call cowardice.
The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
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cow·ard·ice (kour-ds)
n.
Ignoble fear in the face of danger or pain.
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con·fi·dence (knf-dns)
n.
1. Trust or faith in a person or thing.
2. A trusting relationship: I took them into my confidence.
3.
a. That which is confided; a secret: A friend does not betray confidences.
b. A feeling of assurance that a confidant will keep a secret: I am telling you this in strict confidence.
4. A feeling of assurance, especially of self-assurance.
5. The state or quality of being certain: I have every confidence in your ability to succeed.
teamwork [ˈtiːmˌwɜːk]
n
1. the cooperative work done by a team
2. the ability to work efficiently as a team
game plan
n.
1. Sports The strategy devised before or used during an event.
2. A strategy for reaching an objective: "Harvey decided the best game plan was to stay loose" (Cyra McFadden).
Perhaps you should understand the definition of a word before you us it Ace, The first definition does not relate to what you posted and the other three show why players follow what they are instructed to do by their Coach.
n.
Ignoble fear in the face of danger or pain.
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con·fi·dence (knf-dns)
n.
1. Trust or faith in a person or thing.
2. A trusting relationship: I took them into my confidence.
3.
a. That which is confided; a secret: A friend does not betray confidences.
b. A feeling of assurance that a confidant will keep a secret: I am telling you this in strict confidence.
4. A feeling of assurance, especially of self-assurance.
5. The state or quality of being certain: I have every confidence in your ability to succeed.
teamwork [ˈtiːmˌwɜːk]
n
1. the cooperative work done by a team
2. the ability to work efficiently as a team
game plan
n.
1. Sports The strategy devised before or used during an event.
2. A strategy for reaching an objective: "Harvey decided the best game plan was to stay loose" (Cyra McFadden).
Perhaps you should understand the definition of a word before you us it Ace, The first definition does not relate to what you posted and the other three show why players follow what they are instructed to do by their Coach.
s.hit thread.
Fancy some anonomous nobody calling an AFL footballer a coward.
Pissweak and low.
Mods lock this pathetic thread.
Fancy some anonomous nobody calling an AFL footballer a coward.
Pissweak and low.
Mods lock this pathetic thread.
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I'm sure it is what he's been instructed to do. If Ross wants him to kick it long, i'm sure Blake would carry out any instruction given to him on the field.
Point out where you think we could improve, but to call one of our players, one of the best clubmans, a coward. Not cool.
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pretty sure thats the same blake who had his back cracked for him by that sniper from Sydney/RIchmond who dropped his knees into his back (I forgot his name) lost a yard of pace and spent a year coming back from injury and I understand from an article several years ago, he plays every game with injections and 'manages his pain', never seen him squib, back out from a fight, back out from charging the ball, defending his team mates and his space.
I'd be surprised if he was in the top 15 players at st kilda for wage.
Since then he's been called weak, soft, incompetent, round 3 trade bait, delist material, crap, pathetic, etc.
Well done blake, I have been a fan of you for almost your entire career, and look forward to another few years of sterling courageous service for the saints.
And to be honest despite all the criticism of the blake, its first time I've heard him being called a coward...
I'd say he is in he top echelon of st kilda players who would stand in front of a steam train at full tilt to win a premiership, which is more than you can say for some over the past 30 odd years i've been watching football.
ALso I think he's in the top 3 or 4 for effective disposal off the ball, so even if its short passes, he's doing it effectively.
DO you want him on the wing? how about putting blake in as a ruck rover? the man goes where ever every coach has asked him to go and done it manfully.
He's a champion of a player even if he isn't a champion player.
I'd be surprised if he was in the top 15 players at st kilda for wage.
Since then he's been called weak, soft, incompetent, round 3 trade bait, delist material, crap, pathetic, etc.
Well done blake, I have been a fan of you for almost your entire career, and look forward to another few years of sterling courageous service for the saints.
And to be honest despite all the criticism of the blake, its first time I've heard him being called a coward...
I'd say he is in he top echelon of st kilda players who would stand in front of a steam train at full tilt to win a premiership, which is more than you can say for some over the past 30 odd years i've been watching football.
ALso I think he's in the top 3 or 4 for effective disposal off the ball, so even if its short passes, he's doing it effectively.
DO you want him on the wing? how about putting blake in as a ruck rover? the man goes where ever every coach has asked him to go and done it manfully.
He's a champion of a player even if he isn't a champion player.
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