Weird and Freakish Stats...

[Milton66]

Just browsing thorugh the footy record and discovered some weird and wonderful stats about the club...

Stuart Trott #7 IIRC) played 103 consecutive games. I recall he went to Hawthorn. Can anyone clarify if he played these before we left?

Tony Lockett kicked 15 goals in one game against the Swans. What a freak! These days if you get 4 or 5 you're considered a genius.

Bill Young was the 1956 Coleman medalist with just 56 goals. Obviously not a good year for full fowards.

We have been runners up in grand finals 5 times: 1913, 65, 71, 97, 2009.

Since 1984, our membership has grown from 4,930 to 38,000+

2009 was our 4th grand final loss by less than 3 goals.

[35...LEGEND]

[quote="Milton66"]Just browsing thorugh the footy record and discovered some weird and wonderful stats about the club...

Stuart Trott #7 IIRC) played 103 consecutive games. I recall he went to Hawthorn. Can anyone clarify if he played these before we left?

Tony Lockett kicked 15 goals in one game against the Swans. What a freak! These days if you get 4 or 5 you're considered a genius.

Bill Young was the 1956 Coleman medalist with just 56 goals. Obviously not a good year for full fowards.

We have been runners up in grand finals 5 times: 1913, 65, 71, 97, 2009.

Since 1984, our membership has grown from 4,930 to 38,000+

2009 was our 4th grand final loss by less than 3 goals.[/quote]


I feel sick

[wolfpup]

didnt we win a gf against fitzroy one year but because of the rules they were able to challenge for a rematch because they finished above us on the ladder? something like that (think the only time it ever happened)

also was it 1991? against geelong in a final where we lost by 7 points at vfl park we finished 4th but played 3rd, i think the following year 3rd played 6th and 4th played 5th .

i was at the geelong game (my first time i saw the saints in the finals), plugger kicked 9 goals 6 or something and grant was knocked out in the 1st quarter, i think brownless kicked 8 or 9 as well, really thought we should have won that one

anyways, the following year (1992) we scraped into the finals, finished 6th, played collingwood who finished 3rd and won by 8 points knocking them out.

there was a bit of a media storm about the unfairness of 6th knocking out 3rd in the finals

lol saints always involved in strange events

[Saint Bev]

That was the challenge system when we beat Fitzroy and they had the right to challenge us. That system was in for 30 years, I think Collingwood won 5 grand finals by challenging.

As for the 91 game, the system was changed the following year (I think).

[jonesy]

Just browsing thorugh the footy record and discovered some weird and wonderful stats about the club...



Tony Lockett kicked 15 goals in one game against the Swans. What a freak! These days if you get 4 or 5 you're considered a genius.

.

Make it even more impressive,he had about 5 different opponents. Swans had no answers that day..or anytime we played them for that matter,so they resorted to standing 2 men directly with him. He still beat the pair of them

[Milan Faletic]

2009 was our 4th grand final loss by less than 3 goals.

Incorrect.

1913- 56 to 43 Margin:13 (less than 3 goals)
1965- 105 to 70 Margin:35
1971- 82 to 75 Margin:7 (less than 3 goals)
1997- 125 to 94 Margin:31
2009- 80 to 68 Margin:12 (less than 3 goals)

That makes 3 losses by less than 3 goals. Don't know why we needed to know that stat in the first place.

[dcstkfc]

2009 was our 4th grand final loss by less than 3 goals.

Incorrect.

1913- 56 to 43 Margin:13 (less than 3 goals)
1965- 105 to 70 Margin:35
1971- 82 to 75 Margin:7 (less than 3 goals)
1997- 125 to 94 Margin:31
2009- 80 to 68 Margin:12 (less than 3 goals)

That makes 3 losses by less than 3 goals. Don't know why we needed to know that stat in the first place. :cry:

The one that does me in is that we led at 3qtr time in 71 and 09, half time in 97. led at 3qtr time in 04 and 05 prelims, and 06 elimination.

Well it will all be forgotten when we go back to back to back in 10, 11, 12.

[ace]

Since 1984, our membership has grown from 4,930 to 38,000+

Those 4,930 endured yet another wooden spoon.
But 77 goals to a young kid named Tony made it worthwhile.




The real
PLUGGER

[ace]

didnt we win a gf against fitzroy one year but because of the rules they were able to challenge for a rematch because they finished above us on the ladder? something like that (think the only time it ever happened)

also was it 1991? against geelong in a final where we lost by 7 points at vfl park we finished 4th but played 3rd, i think the following year 3rd played 6th and 4th played 5th .

i was at the geelong game (my first time i saw the saints in the finals), plugger kicked 9 goals 6 or something and grant was knocked out in the 1st quarter, i think brownless kicked 8 or 9 as well, really thought we should have won that one

anyways, the following year (1992) we scraped into the finals, finished 6th, played collingwood who finished 3rd and won by 8 points knocking them out.

there was a bit of a media storm about the unfairness of 6th knocking out 3rd in the finals

lol saints always involved in strange events

Media scum led by a young Broadie jerk by the name of Eddie whinging about his maggotpies.

[35...LEGEND]

2009 was our 4th grand final loss by less than 3 goals.

Incorrect.

1913- 56 to 43 Margin:13 (less than 3 goals)
1965- 105 to 70 Margin:35
1971- 82 to 75 Margin:7 (less than 3 goals)
1997- 125 to 94 Margin:31
2009- 80 to 68 Margin:12 (less than 3 goals)

That makes 3 losses by less than 3 goals. Don't know why we needed to know that stat in the first place.

The one that does me in is that we led at 3qtr time in 71 and 09, half time in 97. led at 3qtr time in 04 and 05 prelims, and 06 elimination.

Well it will all be forgotten when we go back to back to back in 10, 11, 12.

I could put up with that

[Milton66]

Since 1984, our membership has grown from 4,930 to 38,000+

Those 4,930 endured yet another wooden spoon.
But 77 goals to a young kid named Tony made it worthwhile.




The real
PLUGGER

Was that pre-Baldock?

Can't recall who was coach that year. I know we churned through Jezza, Jewell, Gellie around that time. Did Ross Smith also have a gig?

My memory is failing me more and more these days.

[rexy]

Just browsing thorugh the footy record and discovered some weird and wonderful stats about the club...



Tony Lockett kicked 15 goals in one game against the Swans. What a freak! These days if you get 4 or 5 you're considered a genius.

.

Make it even more impressive,he had about 5 different opponents. Swans had no answers that day..or anytime we played them for that matter,so they resorted to standing 2 men directly with him. He still beat the pair of them

In the end they just recruited him, obviously seemed easier than trying to stop him?

[Milton66]

Just browsing thorugh the footy record and discovered some weird and wonderful stats about the club...



Tony Lockett kicked 15 goals in one game against the Swans. What a freak! These days if you get 4 or 5 you're considered a genius.

.

Make it even more impressive,he had about 5 different opponents. Swans had no answers that day..or anytime we played them for that matter,so they resorted to standing 2 men directly with him. He still beat the pair of them

In the end they just recruited him, obviously seemed easier than trying to stop him?

[Gabba]

Plugger once kicked 16.0 for Sydney...

[Moccha]

Lockett kicked 15.4 for the Saints the same year Dunstall kicked 17 for the Hawks

[jonesy]

Lockett kicked 15.4 for the Saints the same year Dunstall kicked 17 for the Hawks

Yep,we had Adelaide the same day at Moorabbin. There was always this rivalry in Stkilda fans minds between Lockett/Dunstall. News was filtering through about Dunstalls haul that day...I think he had 10-11 at half time,everyone was sort of flat.
Plugger ended up with a lazy 10 against the crows,but it kind of felt like a loss after Dunstall got 17

[yipper]

Since 1984, our membership has grown from 4,930 to 38,000+

Those 4,930 endured yet another wooden spoon.
But 77 goals to a young kid named Tony made it worthwhile.




The real
PLUGGER

Was that pre-Baldock?

Can't recall who was coach that year. I know we churned through Jezza, Jewell, Gellie around that time. Did Ross Smith also have a gig?

My memory is failing me more and more these days.

Tony Jewell from memory. Gellie took over again in 85 / 86 seasons.

[yipper]

Since 1984, our membership has grown from 4,930 to 38,000+

Those 4,930 endured yet another wooden spoon.
But 77 goals to a young kid named Tony made it worthwhile.




The real
PLUGGER

Was that pre-Baldock?

Can't recall who was coach that year. I know we churned through Jezza, Jewell, Gellie around that time. Did Ross Smith also have a gig?

My memory is failing me more and more these days.

Tony Jewell from memory. Gellie took over mid-year and continued into the 85 / 86 seasons.

[saintspremiers]

4,600 members in 84 is a disgrace.

Talk about not having any idea about Sales and Marketing!

Surely most other clubs (bar Fitzroy, Footscray and North) would've had double our members.

Yes, we were a crap team, but there was virtually zero marketing of memberships back then.

[Saint Bev]

4,600 members in 84 is a disgrace.

Talk about not having any idea about Sales and Marketing!

Surely most other clubs (bar Fitzroy, Footscray and North) would've had double our members.

Yes, we were a crap team, but there was virtually zero marketing of memberships back then.

No there wasn't marketing back then, not sure how old you are but they were very different times. It wasn't just St Kilda.

[Milan Faletic]

4,600 members in 84 is a disgrace.

Talk about not having any idea about Sales and Marketing!

Surely most other clubs (bar Fitzroy, Footscray and North) would've had double our members.

Yes, we were a crap team, but there was virtually zero marketing of memberships back then.

No there wasn't marketing back then, not sure how old you are but they were very different times. It wasn't just St Kilda.

I was a member then and I am a member now but Bev is right about the lack of marketing. That's why I love the Saints Footy marketing campaign.

[Milton66]

4,600 members in 84 is a disgrace.

Talk about not having any idea about Sales and Marketing!

Surely most other clubs (bar Fitzroy, Footscray and North) would've had double our members.

Yes, we were a crap team, but there was virtually zero marketing of memberships back then.

Back then, I don't think that there was any marketing done to be honest.

Becoming a member was something you did. The only thing I recall being "marketed" back then was the Saints Disco.

[jonesy]

Despite our low figures,in comparison to the other teams,we had one of the higher membership bases for memory

[Milton66]

Aaah... them's the days.

If we were infront at 3/4, the attendance would double. Where else would you witness a swarm of supporters turning up at 3/4 time, as opposed to leaving?

And when we got going, the roar of "St Kilda - clap clap clap" from the grandstand was awsome.

Whatever happened to the guy who would yell out "Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarn Sainters!"

[rexy]

Aaah... them's the days.

If we were infront at 3/4, the attendance would double. Where else would you witness a swarm of supporters turning up at 3/4 time, as opposed to leaving?

And when we got going, the roar of "St Kilda - clap clap clap" from the grandstand was awsome.

Whatever happened to the guy who would yell out "Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarn Sainters!"

Not sure, but from time to time I try to chanel him and let one rip, reminds me of standing on the esky at Moorabin and taking it all in, these days everyone looks at you like a freak for being that loud though, all a bit polite in the stands for my liking. Couple of years ago I stood up for 2 seconds when Brett Voss sat on someones head at the G, bloke behind me leant forward and said would you mind remaining seated. Pffft, enjoy yourself FFS.