Will Johnson Round 1

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
User avatar
Con Gorozidis
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 23532
Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
Has thanked: 100 times
Been thanked: 78 times

Will Johnson Round 1

Post: # 894080Post Con Gorozidis »

What is the % chance of WJ making a surprise debut in Round 1?
Im tipping hes 50/50.

Name: Will Johnson
Number 38
Height 191cm
Weight 91kg
DOB 26-10-1989
Debut Yet to Debut


So changes from GF team IMHO:

Out: Ball, Fisher, Clarke, Dempster,
In: Armitage, Johnson, Gwilt, [1 of Smith/Peake/Geary]


User avatar
degruch
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8948
Joined: Mon 19 May 2008 4:29pm
Location: Croydonia
Has thanked: 146 times
Been thanked: 237 times

Post: # 894082Post degruch »

I think Miles is closer...but would be surprised to see either. Even though our backup backline players may be a bit underdone (Dempster not sighted, Raph injured), I think a bit of rejigging to the line-up will do the trick.

It's a nice theory though, I'm all for getting a few kids in there, but not sure if R1 is the time to do it (imagine the wailing on here if we get off to start like 2007 and played kids!).


User avatar
Armoooo
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7281
Joined: Sun 26 Nov 2006 2:28pm
Location: The Great South East
Contact:

Post: # 894087Post Armoooo »

I'd say that Gaetner would be closer to getting a game than Johnson, sure salary issues might prevent him getting a game and that would be a real shame, but at this stage I don't think Johnson has shown enough to indicate that he is worthy of a game yet.

I also don't think that Johnson is the sort of player you bring in for Sam Fisher.

Fisher's strengths aren't pshycial nor are they his ability to shutdown a key forward, it is his reading of the play and ability to create attack from defence, Miles should be next in line IMO...


ROBERT HARVEY A.K.A The Great Man, Banger, Harves, Ol' Man River...
384 games, 4 B&F's, 3 EJ Whitten Medals, St.Kilda Captain, 2 Time Brownlow Medalist, 8 Time All Australian, 2nd Highest Brownlow votes poller.... The greatest of ALL TIME!!
User avatar
degruch
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8948
Joined: Mon 19 May 2008 4:29pm
Location: Croydonia
Has thanked: 146 times
Been thanked: 237 times

Post: # 894091Post degruch »

Also, bare in mind the opposition Congo...Sydney will have big guys like White and Goodes (possibly Curry) up there, who we can cover, but a fleet of smaller dudes like O'Keefe (if you can call him small), Jetta, Rohan, McGlynn, Beven (?), maybe Dennis-Lane flying in to kick goals...Will isn't going to match up with them.


User avatar
Bernard Shakey
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 11240
Joined: Sun 18 Mar 2007 11:22pm
Location: Down By The River 1989, 2003, 2009 & 2013
Has thanked: 126 times
Been thanked: 137 times

Post: # 894095Post Bernard Shakey »

He'd want to show a lot more than he did at Sandy against Box Hill last Saturday.


Old enough to repaint, but young enough to sell
User avatar
Con Gorozidis
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 23532
Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
Has thanked: 100 times
Been thanked: 78 times

Post: # 894098Post Con Gorozidis »

Armoooo wrote:I'd say that Gaetner would be closer to getting a game than Johnson, sure salary issues might prevent him getting a game and that would be a real shame, but at this stage I don't think Johnson has shown enough to indicate that he is worthy of a game yet.

I also don't think that Johnson is the sort of player you bring in for Sam Fisher.

Fisher's strengths aren't pshycial nor are they his ability to shutdown a key forward, it is his reading of the play and ability to create attack from defence, Miles should be next in line IMO...
I agree with all that accept gaetner is not on the list. But Miles probably comes in for Fisher on like for like basis. I still think we are one shut down player short... Cats have 3 or 4 shut down specialists in the backline. You spill the ball and you other backs and mids come and clear it... Thats why i reckon WJ is a chance to see game time sooner rather than later.


User avatar
Con Gorozidis
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 23532
Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
Has thanked: 100 times
Been thanked: 78 times

Post: # 894099Post Con Gorozidis »

Bernard Shakey wrote:He'd want to show a lot more than he did at Sandy against Box Hill last Saturday.
he had a stinker?


plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Post: # 894102Post plugger66 »

I would have Johnson ahead of Miles. I cannot see what Miles provides at all. Poor disposal when he does get it. Having said that neither Miles, Johnson or Gaertner should play round one.


User avatar
Batnoe
Club Player
Posts: 586
Joined: Wed 17 Mar 2010 1:19pm

Post: # 894107Post Batnoe »

plugger66 wrote:I would have Johnson ahead of Miles. I cannot see what Miles provides at all. Poor disposal when he does get it. Having said that neither Miles, Johnson or Gaertner should play round one.

I agree with this

we should play our best 22 players, none of these guys are our 'best 22'

If need be, we can play Goddard in defence like he has.

We still have, Gilbo, Dawson, Baker, Blake, Goddard, and a HBF (Gram, Dal)

We still have a few options up our sleeves before we have to rely on any of those players. I think if we have to play Miles for many games we have certainly gone backwards, i hope he proves me wrong but doesnt man up well enough for me


Carn Saints
User avatar
saintnick12
Club Player
Posts: 1877
Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2009 2:08pm

Post: # 894129Post saintnick12 »

Gaertner is still a rookie so would have to be upgraded for a player on the long term injury list to be able to play. I guess Jesse Smith would be the only one who could qualify for that at the moment. And even then, I think he may be further advanced that they might not want to lose him for 8 weeks by doing that.
Gaertner does look a prospect from what we've seen, so hopefully he continues to develop this year at Sandy and might get a game if the chance arises.


"At the end of the day, a coach and a fitness adviser doesn't make a good football team, they're not the only ones who got us to two Grand Finals." Lenny Hayes. 27/9/2011.
plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Post: # 894131Post plugger66 »

Please fix the heading in the thread. It should read Will Johnson PLAY round one?
Last edited by plugger66 on Thu 18 Mar 2010 5:36pm, edited 1 time in total.


User avatar
Quixote
SS Life Member
Posts: 2793
Joined: Fri 05 Jan 2007 2:57pm
Location: Look for the windmills

Post: # 894132Post Quixote »

plugger66 wrote:I would have Johnson ahead of Miles. I cannot see what Miles provides at all. Poor disposal when he does get it. Having said that neither Miles, Johnson or Gaertner should play round one.
About a weeks time and we should know.

Do you think there will be any surprises in the Rnd 1 team? Or what we all generally expect?

IE, this:


Baker Dawson Ray
Dempster Blake Gilbert
Joey Armo Gram
Schneider Roo Goddard
Mini Kosi Milne
McEvoy Jones Dal
Gwilt Peake King Geary


Assuming Gardy(King)/Raph/Hayes(Geary) not getting up.


Fortius Quo Fidelius Yo
plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Post: # 894133Post plugger66 »

Quixote wrote:
plugger66 wrote:I would have Johnson ahead of Miles. I cannot see what Miles provides at all. Poor disposal when he does get it. Having said that neither Miles, Johnson or Gaertner should play round one.
About a weeks time and we should know.

Do you think there will be any surprises in the Rnd 1 team? Or what we all generally expect?

IE, this:


Baker Dawson Ray
Dempster Blake Gilbert
Joey Armo Gram
Schneider Roo Goddard
Mini Kosi Milne
McEvoy Jones Dal
Gwilt Peake King Geary


Assuming Gardy(King)/Raph/Hayes(Geary) not getting up.
I reckon we know that RL doesnt really surprise anyone so not IMO.


User avatar
Quixote
SS Life Member
Posts: 2793
Joined: Fri 05 Jan 2007 2:57pm
Location: Look for the windmills

Post: # 894140Post Quixote »

plugger66 wrote:Please fix the heading in the thread. It should read Will Johnson PLAY round one?
Shouldn't it read, Will Will Johnson play Round 1?


Fortius Quo Fidelius Yo
gringo
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12421
Joined: Tue 24 Mar 2009 11:05pm
Location: St Kilda
Has thanked: 296 times
Been thanked: 55 times

Post: # 894146Post gringo »

Gwilt will take Fishers backline spot and Raph Clarke should be back.


User avatar
ace
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10774
Joined: Sun 16 Dec 2007 3:28pm
Location: St Kilda
Has thanked: 31 times
Been thanked: 827 times

Post: # 894151Post ace »

Wont Johnson

Playing for Sandringham


The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.

If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
User avatar
saintnick12
Club Player
Posts: 1877
Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2009 2:08pm

Post: # 894201Post saintnick12 »

Quixote wrote:
plugger66 wrote:I would have Johnson ahead of Miles. I cannot see what Miles provides at all. Poor disposal when he does get it. Having said that neither Miles, Johnson or Gaertner should play round one.
About a weeks time and we should know.

Do you think there will be any surprises in the Rnd 1 team? Or what we all generally expect?

IE, this:


Baker Dawson Ray
Dempster Blake Gilbert
Joey Armo Gram
Schneider Roo Goddard
Mini Kosi Milne
McEvoy Jones Dal
Gwilt Peake King Geary


Assuming Gardy(King)/Raph/Hayes(Geary) not getting up.
Dempster was in a moon boot at the family day on Sunday and hasn't played since the Sydney game from memory, so can't see him playing round 1 unless his issue was very minor and the moonboot was maybe for protection. But when I saw him, he didn't look very comfortable.


"At the end of the day, a coach and a fitness adviser doesn't make a good football team, they're not the only ones who got us to two Grand Finals." Lenny Hayes. 27/9/2011.
User avatar
Quixote
SS Life Member
Posts: 2793
Joined: Fri 05 Jan 2007 2:57pm
Location: Look for the windmills

Post: # 894208Post Quixote »

Didn't know that. Cool.

Add Raph or Miles for Sean you'd think.


Fortius Quo Fidelius Yo
User avatar
saintnick12
Club Player
Posts: 1877
Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2009 2:08pm

Post: # 894219Post saintnick12 »

Quixote wrote:Didn't know that. Cool.

Add Raph or Miles for Sean you'd think.
Yep, will be interesting to see if Raph plays at Sandy this weekend. Can't see him playing round one with no match practice, so hopefully he is fit enough to play this week.


"At the end of the day, a coach and a fitness adviser doesn't make a good football team, they're not the only ones who got us to two Grand Finals." Lenny Hayes. 27/9/2011.
User avatar
Bernard Shakey
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 11240
Joined: Sun 18 Mar 2007 11:22pm
Location: Down By The River 1989, 2003, 2009 & 2013
Has thanked: 126 times
Been thanked: 137 times

Post: # 894236Post Bernard Shakey »

Con Gorozidis wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:He'd want to show a lot more than he did at Sandy against Box Hill last Saturday.
he had a stinker?
Not a stinker, but he did kick it out on the full to the same spot 3 or 4 times, from the kick in, in the third quarter.

I think he's the type of player that you don't notice until he stuffs up.


Old enough to repaint, but young enough to sell
SainterK
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21057
Joined: Thu 14 Aug 2008 9:53pm
Location: Melb

Post: # 894238Post SainterK »

Bernard Shakey wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:He'd want to show a lot more than he did at Sandy against Box Hill last Saturday.
he had a stinker?
Not a stinker, but he did kick it out on the full to the same spot 3 or 4 times, from the kick in, in the third quarter.

I think he's the type of player that you don't notice until he stuffs up.
He was like that at training, I just can't remember him...must make an effort next time.


Burkey 1
Club Player
Posts: 143
Joined: Mon 01 Mar 2010 9:39pm

Post: # 894244Post Burkey 1 »

I will be dirty if Geary doesn't play, he is a tough in and under player and we will need this type especially against the swans.


User avatar
rexy
SS Life Member
Posts: 3373
Joined: Wed 24 Mar 2004 12:12am
Location: The Gully

Post: # 894329Post rexy »

Burkey 1 wrote:I will be dirty if Geary doesn't play, he is a tough in and under player and we will need this type especially against the swans.
Think you will be OK, Geary looked set for senior selection to me, solid Nab cup, kicked goals, ran hard. Think he will play forward in the Gwilt, Eddy role and push up the ground.


Maybe this year?
User avatar
st_Trav_ofWA
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8886
Joined: Wed 13 Sep 2006 7:10pm
Location: Perth
Contact:

Post: # 894452Post st_Trav_ofWA »

plugger66 wrote:I would have Johnson ahead of Miles. I cannot see what Miles provides at all. Poor disposal when he does get it. Having said that neither Miles, Johnson or Gaertner should play round one.
funny i remember you and many others saying the same thing about another player a few years back ... wonder how he is going now ?!?! oh thats right he is considered one of the best stoppers in the comp and has been given the privliage of wearing the number 4 jumper ........


"The team that wins in the most positions and makes the least amount of mistakes, usually wins the game." -- Allan Jeans

http://westernsaints.wordpress.com/
User avatar
degruch
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8948
Joined: Mon 19 May 2008 4:29pm
Location: Croydonia
Has thanked: 146 times
Been thanked: 237 times

Post: # 894454Post degruch »

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:
plugger66 wrote:I would have Johnson ahead of Miles. I cannot see what Miles provides at all. Poor disposal when he does get it. Having said that neither Miles, Johnson or Gaertner should play round one.
funny i remember you and many others saying the same thing about another player a few years back ... wonder how he is going now ?!?! oh thats right he is considered one of the best stoppers in the comp and has been given the privliage of wearing the number 4 jumper ........
...and the new whipping boy wears 30.


Post Reply