Luke names Essendon or COllingwood
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"LUKE Ball's chances of becoming a Magpie are getting slimmer by the day with Brisbane Lions coach Michael Voss confirming that the club would attempt to recruit the former Saint whether he wanted to move north or not."
Don't underestimate Michael Voss getting him to the Loins according to todays Age. They have space in the salary cap to do it and he won't have a choice other than to stand out of footy for a year to get what he wants.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/vo ... 34192.html
Don't underestimate Michael Voss getting him to the Loins according to todays Age. They have space in the salary cap to do it and he won't have a choice other than to stand out of footy for a year to get what he wants.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/vo ... 34192.html
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It is a bit disappointing that NOW he names Essendon... To think that if he had done it at the start of trade week, we could have got Ball for Lovett and still had our first pick... Pretty rubbish by Luke... I mean, yeah he wants out, yeah he was a good leader, and yeah he always tried his guts out for us... but the way this has been handled by him and Connors has been a mega kick in the teeth to the Saints!
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It is a bit disappointing that NOW he names Essendon... To think that if he had done it at the start of trade week, we could have got Ball for Lovett and still had our first pick... Pretty rubbish by Luke... I mean, yeah he wants out, yeah he was a good leader, and yeah he always tried his guts out for us... but the way this has been handled by him and Connors has been a mega kick in the teeth to the Saints!
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It is a bit disappointing that NOW he names Essendon... To think that if he had done it at the start of trade week, we could have got Ball for Lovett and still had our first pick... Pretty rubbish by Luke... I mean, yeah he wants out, yeah he was a good leader, and yeah he always tried his guts out for us... but the way this has been handled by him and Connors has been a mega kick in the teeth to the Saints!
really never allowed st kilda to get anything decient from the trade by just naming the pies...
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Hope he goes to a club he least wanted ...
Hope he goes to a club he least wanted ... He has completely shafted the SAINTS in the trade process - I am sure Essendon would have done a straight swap for LOVETT if BALL had of agreed to it at the time. Saving our pick 16 in the draft and all the dramas that his departure has cuased in the interim.
All the good wook the SAINTS did over the year has been blemmished by BALL a selfish little prat!
I stand by my comment that LYON should not involve himself in further trade weeks, instead allow impartial personnel to run the negotiations. It is obvious that the bruised egos had a lot to do with BALL's insistance on leaving ....
All the good wook the SAINTS did over the year has been blemmished by BALL a selfish little prat!
I stand by my comment that LYON should not involve himself in further trade weeks, instead allow impartial personnel to run the negotiations. It is obvious that the bruised egos had a lot to do with BALL's insistance on leaving ....
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Re: Hope he goes to a club he least wanted ...
even if it would not be a straight swap we could have always put in a third rounder to sweetenWinnersOnly wrote:Hope he goes to a club he least wanted ... He has completely shafted the SAINTS in the trade process - I am sure Essendon would have done a straight swap for LOVETT if BALL had of agreed to it at the time. Saving our pick 16 in the draft and all the dramas that his departure has cuased in the interim.
All the good wook the SAINTS did over the year has been blemmished by BALL a selfish little prat!
I stand by my comment that LYON should not involve himself in further trade weeks, instead allow impartial personnel to run the negotiations. It is obvious that the bruised egos had a lot to do with BALL's insistance on leaving ....
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Can the Lions be our best frends?
Saying they will use pick 27 to get Ball. They either have their eye on a player that may not be around their pick so that forces Essendon to take him with one of their earlier picks which therefore makes pick 27 -pick 26
At least it means Collingwood wont get him, If Dees, Bombers dont get him, then the Lions will...
No chance of going to Pies IMO and i thank the Lions for that, even if they dont want him, it forces Bombers to us one of their picks
Saying they will use pick 27 to get Ball. They either have their eye on a player that may not be around their pick so that forces Essendon to take him with one of their earlier picks which therefore makes pick 27 -pick 26
At least it means Collingwood wont get him, If Dees, Bombers dont get him, then the Lions will...
No chance of going to Pies IMO and i thank the Lions for that, even if they dont want him, it forces Bombers to us one of their picks
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Any club just so long as the Filth can't brag about how they beat the draft rules and got Ball for a pathetic pick 30 (worth 45 in an uncompromised draft).
But preferably Brisbane just so that Luke realises that he isn't so smart after all.
And Paul Connors is made to look like a clown who failed his client.
But preferably Brisbane just so that Luke realises that he isn't so smart after all.
And Paul Connors is made to look like a clown who failed his client.
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and Voss just looks at it as 'business' as he stated about club champion and frined Daniel Bradshaw-Batnoe wrote:Can the Lions be our best frends?
Saying they will use pick 27 to get Ball. They either have their eye on a player that may not be around their pick so that forces Essendon to take him with one of their earlier picks which therefore makes pick 27 -pick 26
At least it means Collingwood wont get him, If Dees, Bombers dont get him, then the Lions will...
No chance of going to Pies IMO and i thank the Lions for that, even if they dont want him, it forces Bombers to us one of their picks
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Felt inclined to defend Luke for his actions; every player has the right to win the best deal possible for themselves in this day and age. He has a limited window to earn money and, look, who knows, perhaps he thinks his body won't last for much long and he wants to secure his financial future. Don't discount that - it's a powerful motivator for a smart guy who knows football may not provide him with many more years of prosperity.
However, I'm now a little irked by how he's positioned himself by nominating for the National draft. It's like he's so desperate to get away that he's prepared to take whatever other club he can.
I'm sure there's a logical, rational decision behind it but until those answers come, I feel he hasn't covered himself in glory.
It hasn't been a classy, dignified exit like Xavier Clarke. When his career is over, he'll always be welcome back at our club.
Not sure I could say that about Luke Ball - a tough thing to say given so many of us believed he embodied many of the finer qualities which we associate with this football club.
However, I'm now a little irked by how he's positioned himself by nominating for the National draft. It's like he's so desperate to get away that he's prepared to take whatever other club he can.
I'm sure there's a logical, rational decision behind it but until those answers come, I feel he hasn't covered himself in glory.
It hasn't been a classy, dignified exit like Xavier Clarke. When his career is over, he'll always be welcome back at our club.
Not sure I could say that about Luke Ball - a tough thing to say given so many of us believed he embodied many of the finer qualities which we associate with this football club.
Clueless and mediocre petty tyrant.
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http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfn...219839871.html
"Essendon will use a pick (No. 9) in the 2009 pre-season draft. The club has four picks in next week's national draft (10, 24, 26 and 33), one of which it may use on former Saint Luke Ball, who has refused to talk to the club or be medically assessed."
Who does this guy think he is?
"Essendon will use a pick (No. 9) in the 2009 pre-season draft. The club has four picks in next week's national draft (10, 24, 26 and 33), one of which it may use on former Saint Luke Ball, who has refused to talk to the club or be medically assessed."
Who does this guy think he is?
A Collingwood player?mightysainters wrote:http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfn...219839871.html
"Essendon will use a pick (No. 9) in the 2009 pre-season draft. The club has four picks in next week's national draft (10, 24, 26 and 33), one of which it may use on former Saint Luke Ball, who has refused to talk to the club or be medically assessed."
Who does this guy think he is?
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totally agreeevertonfc wrote:Felt inclined to defend Luke for his actions; every player has the right to win the best deal possible for themselves in this day and age. He has a limited window to earn money and, look, who knows, perhaps he thinks his body won't last for much long and he wants to secure his financial future. Don't discount that - it's a powerful motivator for a smart guy who knows football may not provide him with many more years of prosperity.
However, I'm now a little irked by how he's positioned himself by nominating for the National draft. It's like he's so desperate to get away that he's prepared to take whatever other club he can.
I'm sure there's a logical, rational decision behind it but until those answers come, I feel he hasn't covered himself in glory.
It hasn't been a classy, dignified exit like Xavier Clarke. When his career is over, he'll always be welcome back at our club.
Not sure I could say that about Luke Ball - a tough thing to say given so many of us believed he embodied many of the finer qualities which we associate with this football club.
unlike say judd it never felt that ball eer had his former club in his thoughts through this process. Judd made sure west coast would get something deceint, ball seemed just hell bent of getting to the pies. All of a sudden I respect judd more
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Yes the facts speak for themselves - Judd got the money he wanted at Carlton but West Coast got pick 3, the previous plus one year's pick 4 player and pick 20.Solar wrote:totally agreeevertonfc wrote:Felt inclined to defend Luke for his actions; every player has the right to win the best deal possible for themselves in this day and age. He has a limited window to earn money and, look, who knows, perhaps he thinks his body won't last for much long and he wants to secure his financial future. Don't discount that - it's a powerful motivator for a smart guy who knows football may not provide him with many more years of prosperity.
However, I'm now a little irked by how he's positioned himself by nominating for the National draft. It's like he's so desperate to get away that he's prepared to take whatever other club he can.
I'm sure there's a logical, rational decision behind it but until those answers come, I feel he hasn't covered himself in glory.
It hasn't been a classy, dignified exit like Xavier Clarke. When his career is over, he'll always be welcome back at our club.
Not sure I could say that about Luke Ball - a tough thing to say given so many of us believed he embodied many of the finer qualities which we associate with this football club.
unlike say judd it never felt that ball eer had his former club in his thoughts through this process. Judd made sure west coast would get something deceint, ball seemed just hell bent of getting to the pies. All of a sudden I respect judd more
Ball never bothered to ensure Collingwood would trade for him before nominating exclusively Collingwood.
Instead Collingwood traded for Darren Jolly.
I flush brown things like Luke Ball down my toilet every day.
In later years if he dares go near the club he will always feel uncomfortable.
He will remember he has betrayed the club and spat on it as he left.
He also knows that members will remember his behaviour, some may forgive but none will forget.
He will only ever feel comfortable at his new club, but never quite welcome.
Dempster, Schneider and King were among only a few Saints (the rest being unknowns) not to receive player sponsors last year and they came by way of trade.
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