howard & l. fisher gone

shmic_s · Post: # 858182Post **shmic_s** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 2:36pm

howard & l. fisher delisted.

The Saints have made two final changes to its playing list ahead of the 2010 season, parting ways with Leigh Fisher & Brad Howard.

source: facebook

S.A Saint · Post: # 858185Post **S.A Saint** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 2:38pm

about time...never knew what they saw in howard should have been gone last year..thought that fisher would have been used as back up if we got bad injuries....

will be looking forward to the drafts now

LennyBoy · Post: # 858188Post **LennyBoy** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 2:39pm

list cloggers

mick13 · Post: # 858189Post **mick13** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 2:39pm

That was fair unexpected when I clicked 'home' lol.

Eastern · Post: # 858191Post **Eastern** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 2:42pm

Not unexpected.

Does this mean that we now get an extra National/Pre-Season Draft pick and an additional Rookie pick? I can't keep up with all the changes to the Draft Rules !!

Mr Magic · Post: # 858193Post **Mr Magic** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 2:45pm

Might also be due to Ball deciding to leave, opening up some salary cap for the Club to pay out Fisher and Howard's 2010 contracts?

S.A Saint · Post: # 858194Post **S.A Saint** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 2:45pm

Eastern wrote:Not unexpected.

Does this mean that we now get an extra National/Pre-Season Draft pick and an additional Rookie pick? I can't keep up with all the changes to the Draft Rules !!

not to sure..but you would think that we would get at least one pick from this..

S.A Saint · Post: # 858195Post **S.A Saint** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 2:46pm

Mr Magic wrote:Might also be due to Ball deciding to leave, opening up some salary cap for the Club to pay out Fisher and Howard's 2010 contracts?

could it be that we might go for one of the more mature players that have been delisted...

Batnoe · Post: # 858196Post **Batnoe** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 2:48pm

Luke Ablett anyone?

plugger66 · Post: # 858197Post **plugger66** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 2:50pm

Mr Magic wrote:Might also be due to Ball deciding to leave, opening up some salary cap for the Club to pay out Fisher and Howard's 2010 contracts?

Got it in one I would think.

shmic_s · Post: # 858198Post **shmic_s** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 2:50pm

S.A Saint wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Might also be due to Ball deciding to leave, opening up some salary cap for the Club to pay out Fisher and Howard's 2010 contracts?
could it be that we might go for one of the more mature players that have been delisted...

yeah, i think we will be taking a player with senior experience in the pre-season draft. who, i have no idea.

sax · Post: # 858202Post **sax** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 2:56pm

Eastern wrote:Not unexpected.

Does this mean that we now get an extra National/Pre-Season Draft pick and an additional Rookie pick? I can't keep up with all the changes to the Draft Rules !!

We can now use up to 4 picks in the National Draft (32, 60, 64, 77).
We now have 4 picks in the rookie draft .

Batnoe · Post: # 858205Post **Batnoe** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 2:58pm

They were list cloggers. Fisher may have been good for depth, but everyone we have gotten rid of- except Luke Ball, didnt play more than 7 games last year (Max)

So we are not losing much on our last years team... It also alows us to play the kids like Lynch, Steven, Armo, Heyne etc etc

I would imagine we will take a mature age recruit and take 2 other irish players (tommys brother looks more likely this year, than next, plus david Moran)

dcstkfc · Post: # 858208Post **dcstkfc** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 3:08pm

Thanks for all your efforts guys, and good luck for the future.

Leigh Fisher especially, career somewhat cruelled by injury and bad timing. Played in first 9 games of 04 streak and 08 NAB Cup win.

Also had about 25 possessions in the first half against Hawthorn in rd 8 2007.

Ice Wolf · Post: # 858211Post **Ice Wolf** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 3:22pm

Think we might redraft McGuire, if he isn't secured by Carlton?

Spinner · Post: # 858213Post **Spinner** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 3:23pm

Wow....

Its a pity we don't have more early picks.

Whats the math now guys?

How many are we going to draft?

Milton66 · Post: # 858217Post **Milton66** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 3:36pm

In my book, Fisher is an amazing inspiration that anyone can learn from.

He had horrendous hamstrings, but never gave up.

Whilst his footy talents may not equal his courage, he is still a champion IMO.

Good luck Leigh. Sorry to see you go. But at least you gave it 110%.

FullMonty · Post: # 858220Post **FullMonty** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 3:42pm

Good move by the club.

Howard had 4 years too many and showed nothing.
Fish was unlucky with injuries as goose was.

HarveysDeciple · Fri 13 Nov 2009 3:43pm

Milton66 wrote:In my book, Fisher is an amazing inspiration that anyone can learn from.

He had horrendous hamstrings, but never gave up.

Whilst his footy talents may not equal his courage, he is still a champion IMO.

Good luck Leigh. Sorry to see you go. But at least you gave it 110%.

Yeah shades of the Jason Cripps about him, in more ways then one.

Well said.

joffaboy · Post: # 858223Post **joffaboy** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 3:47pm

Wow - just think if we had have picked up Wellingham we would now only have one list clogger at the club

saintbrat · Post: # 858225Post **saintbrat** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 3:48pm

not sure when Leigh started at the saints
but from the 2003 list
http://westofmoorabbin.com./wom/node/11

Only 9 left.

Mr Magic · Post: # 858230Post **Mr Magic** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 3:56pm

saintbrat wrote:not sure when Leigh started at the saints
but from the 2003 list
http://westofmoorabbin.com./wom/node/11

Only 9 left.

Wasn't he a late pick in the Hodge/Ball/Judd draft?

I remember him playing as a junior - used to play against my youngest son and he was a 'superstar' of the league.

I feel desperately sorry for him that whatever chance he had at making it as an AFL player was severely impacted by those horrendous hamstring problems.

SainterK · Post: # 858231Post **SainterK** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 4:00pm

All the best for the future guys

ThePunter · Post: # 858241Post **ThePunter** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 4:14pm

Leigh Fisher was a late draft pick in a draft where St Kilda were reluctant to make many picks (only taking Goddard, Matt Ferguson and Leigh Fisher). We turned Peter Everitt into Barry Brooks, which was, in retrospect, an epic fail.

Anyway, Fisher's debut coincided with the arrival of the young Saints as a force. His first game was a big victory over West Coast, where he had eighteen possessions, five tackles and a goal. He played the final five games that year, including four massive wins and a loss down at Geelong.

After an interrupted pre-season, it took until Round 5 for him to make his 2004 debut. He played in the great win over Brisbane in Round 6, then played every game until Round 9, in which he injured his hamstring.

In 2005, he was given jumper number 6, but didn't play because of his hamstring troubles.

He returned in Round 8, 2006. He played in 45 of St Kilda's next 49 games.

Unfortunately, being not fleet of foot, he was another player for whom the AFL game at the highest level passed by.

Best of luck in your future endeavours, Leigh.

sunsaint · Post: # 858243Post **sunsaint** » Fri 13 Nov 2009 4:16pm

Spinner wrote:Wow....

Its a pity we don't have more early picks.

Whats the math now guys?

How many are we going to draft?

agree with the sentiment
as we didnt trade for draft selection position, you would have to say anything that is available by the time we get involved will be making up the numbers.
Batnoe ... pretty sure Ablett has signed to play with GC
Joel McDonald from brissy most likely will be gone.

Feel sorry for Leigh, he was a great allrounder, and thought he still had some currency in the team
AS for the pretty harsh list clogger tag, how many of the pick ups we get next month will be just making up the numbers anyway. Can anyone remember Begley?