Straight swap: Fraser-Ball
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Straight swap: Fraser-Ball
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I know Fraser is not rated highly by saints fans.
I rated him very highly in his early career. I have followed footy (andthe saints) since 1963 and played a bit for Lalor as a kid in the Diamond Valley League but I am not as footy smart as many posters on this forum. But, I will would still like to give an opinion, for what it is worth.
Very mobile for a big man. Watched him live in a game in Canberra (2002?) and was, to be honest, amazed by his skills as a 203 cm ruckman. Also, have always liked his attitude...modest sort of a bloke.
He has not lived up to his potential as a number 1 draft pick. That is very true.
Never rated him as a ruckman. Seems to lack the body strength. But can take a pack mark and kick goals.
Don't know his price tag. If he was appropriately priced, one year contract. What do you think. Come Friday, may be all we get for Ball. A balding underachiever who I think could blossum at a supporting club where h is not a major focus.
Rational discussion please..pros and cons. And please be gentle with me.
Don't shoot the messenger.
I know Fraser is not rated highly by saints fans.
I rated him very highly in his early career. I have followed footy (andthe saints) since 1963 and played a bit for Lalor as a kid in the Diamond Valley League but I am not as footy smart as many posters on this forum. But, I will would still like to give an opinion, for what it is worth.
Very mobile for a big man. Watched him live in a game in Canberra (2002?) and was, to be honest, amazed by his skills as a 203 cm ruckman. Also, have always liked his attitude...modest sort of a bloke.
He has not lived up to his potential as a number 1 draft pick. That is very true.
Never rated him as a ruckman. Seems to lack the body strength. But can take a pack mark and kick goals.
Don't know his price tag. If he was appropriately priced, one year contract. What do you think. Come Friday, may be all we get for Ball. A balding underachiever who I think could blossum at a supporting club where h is not a major focus.
Rational discussion please..pros and cons. And please be gentle with me.
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Re: Straight swap: Fraser-Ball
he's a dud, had a pie supporter tell me at the start of the week b4 ball wanted to go to the pies, fraser free to good homesaintpeter wrote:This is being discussed on Bigfooty trade forum.
Don't shoot the messenger.
I know Fraser is not rated highly by saints fans.
I rated him very highly in his early career. I have followed footy (andthe saints) since 1963 and played a bit for Lalor as a kid in the Diamond Valley League but I am not as footy smart as many posters on this forum. But, I will would still like to give an opinion, for what it is worth.
Very mobile for a big man. Watched him live in a game in Canberra (2002?) and was, to be honest, amazed by his skills as a 203 cm ruckman. Also, have always liked his attitude...modest sort of a bloke.
He has not lived up to his potential as a number 1 draft pick. That is very true.
Never rated him as a ruckman. Seems to lack the body strength. But can take a pack mark and kick goals.
Don't know his price tag. If he was appropriately priced, one year contract. What do you think. Come Friday, may be all we get for Ball. A balding underachiever who I think could blossum at a supporting club where h is not a major focus.
Rational discussion please..pros and cons. And please be gentle with me.
if we give ball to the pies for him its a discrace, send him to melbourne, dont give collingwood a leg up anywhere.
Re: Straight swap: Fraser-Ball
There wouldn't be any point we've already got about 5 ruckmansaintpeter wrote:This is being discussed on Bigfooty trade forum.
Don't shoot the messenger.
I know Fraser is not rated highly by saints fans.
I rated him very highly in his early career. I have followed footy (andthe saints) since 1963 and played a bit for Lalor as a kid in the Diamond Valley League but I am not as footy smart as many posters on this forum. But, I will would still like to give an opinion, for what it is worth.
Very mobile for a big man. Watched him live in a game in Canberra (2002?) and was, to be honest, amazed by his skills as a 203 cm ruckman. Also, have always liked his attitude...modest sort of a bloke.
He has not lived up to his potential as a number 1 draft pick. That is very true.
Never rated him as a ruckman. Seems to lack the body strength. But can take a pack mark and kick goals.
Don't know his price tag. If he was appropriately priced, one year contract. What do you think. Come Friday, may be all we get for Ball. A balding underachiever who I think could blossum at a supporting club where h is not a major focus.
Rational discussion please..pros and cons. And please be gentle with me.
Dale Thomas would be a better fit if we are looking for a straight swap.
He's fast and creative, which seems to fit RL's trading plan this year (Lovett, to a lesser extent Peake).
Not so interested in Fraser, age must be becoming a factor too...
I will be very happy if we could come out of this with Thomas.
He's fast and creative, which seems to fit RL's trading plan this year (Lovett, to a lesser extent Peake).
Not so interested in Fraser, age must be becoming a factor too...
I will be very happy if we could come out of this with Thomas.
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Yeah, I'd be happy with Everitt as well.claystreet wrote:hopefully we can on trade him to the dogs for Everitt
Dont need Fraser, dont want him.
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Daisy pleeeez no hes a one dimensional pilllow with a handbagbattye wrote:Dale Thomas would be a better fit if we are looking for a straight swap.
He's fast and creative, which seems to fit RL's trading plan this year (Lovett, to a lesser extent Peake).
Not so interested in Fraser, age must be becoming a factor too...
I will be very happy if we could come out of this with Thomas.
Who can turn matches...claystreet wrote:Daisy pleeeez no hes a one dimensional pilllow with a handbagbattye wrote:Dale Thomas would be a better fit if we are looking for a straight swap.
He's fast and creative, which seems to fit RL's trading plan this year (Lovett, to a lesser extent Peake).
Not so interested in Fraser, age must be becoming a factor too...
I will be very happy if we could come out of this with Thomas.
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Don't know much about Fraser than from games where we've played Collingwood, but I'm guessing he would be a backup ruckman (no room in the forward line for him) and nothing more. Would be behind Gardiner and King, probably McEvoy too.saintpeter wrote:Thomas would be better, but will the filth agree to that.
What I am saying is that worst outcome (other than nothing and Ball goes into the PSD) we get Fraser. What would we do with him
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Thank you.saintpeter wrote:God you guys are quick. Within 4 minutes 6 replies.
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Then Raph Clarke, then GT. Then locked.Mr Magic wrote:That takes a little longer.saintpeter wrote:Good replies too. No shooting the OP (yet)
First the content
Then the OP
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Filth will never part with Thomas.
He is their bItch who takes it from the whole team and they dont want to go back to BItchslap as their root.
He is their bItch who takes it from the whole team and they dont want to go back to BItchslap as their root.
Lance or James??
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Re: Straight swap: Fraser-Ball
Where's the fine print?saintpeter wrote:This is being discussed on Bigfooty trade forum.
Don't shoot the messenger.
I know Fraser is not rated highly by saints fans.
I rated him very highly in his early career. I have followed footy (andthe saints) since 1963 and played a bit for Lalor as a kid in the Diamond Valley League but I am not as footy smart as many posters on this forum. But, I will would still like to give an opinion, for what it is worth.
Very mobile for a big man. Watched him live in a game in Canberra (2002?) and was, to be honest, amazed by his skills as a 203 cm ruckman. Also, have always liked his attitude...modest sort of a bloke.
He has not lived up to his potential as a number 1 draft pick. That is very true.
Never rated him as a ruckman. Seems to lack the body strength. But can take a pack mark and kick goals.
Don't know his price tag. If he was appropriately priced, one year contract. What do you think. Come Friday, may be all we get for Ball. A balding underachiever who I think could blossum at a supporting club where h is not a major focus.
Rational discussion please..pros and cons. And please be gentle with me.
That tells that Fraser's knee is kanga-***ted !!
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