lenny hayes: how will he be remembered?

fonz_#15 · Post: # 752555Post **fonz_#15** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:05pm

I am going to stick my neck out there and say i list him as on the same level as Harves. some will laugh, or say i'm an idiot but i am just sharing what i think.

He is so consistent, a great ball winner under packs, and uses it quite well.

If he goes on to get 250-300 games how will Lenny be remembered?

Devilhead · Post: # 752560Post **Devilhead** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:06pm

As a worthy Brownlow Medallist and Premiership player

Legendary · Post: # 752562Post **Legendary** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:07pm

You underestimate Harvey.

Lenny Hayes is on the Burke level ... but just that step below Harvs ...

The Fireman · Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:07pm

One of the greats.
Every oppo supporter you speak to will say how much they love Lenny Hayes.
The perfect footballer.

fonz_#15 · Post: # 752566Post **fonz_#15** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:09pm

Legendary wrote:You underestimate Harvey.

Lenny Hayes is on the Burke level ... but just that step below Harvs ...

didn't say it would be the popular opinion, just that it is the way I regard him.

does he ever play poorly? i can't think of many games where he isn't in our best 5

doristhesaint · Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:10pm

he is brilliant

matrix · Post: # 752574Post **matrix** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:11pm

i rate him higher than burkey.
but im biased to my fav player.

if he plays 300 it would be something i will be very grateful to have witnessed

claystreet · Post: # 752578Post **claystreet** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:12pm

He is St Kilda

starsign · Post: # 752579Post **starsign** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:12pm

forever!!

Zippy · Post: # 752581Post **Zippy** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:14pm

as a topline midfielder, but not on the Harvey level.

His hair isn't as indestructible, for starters.

mick13 · Post: # 752585Post **mick13** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:15pm

Yeah, slightly above Burke, just below Harvey.

Will probably go down as one of our best 20 players? Easily I reckon.

kalsaint · Post: # 752593Post **kalsaint** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:18pm

Truly a great present player but not Harves.

Game styles are different. Perhaps Lenny has a similar weakness to Harves, that is, missed goals at critical times. Effort from both players can be questioned but this often hasnt reflected directly on the scoreboard.

Good to see other midfielders stepping up in this regard.

TriColourDisciple · Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:24pm

If he doesn't go to Carlscum straight after a big send off from adoring Saints fans on his last game...Then yes, I'll rate him higher than Harves.

The Fireman · Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:28pm

The guy is "delicious" to watch, tough, balanced, smart with silky skills you can't ask for more, this guy deserves a Brownlow.

battye · Post: # 752621Post **battye** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:29pm

What are the Brownlow odds for Hayes right now?

Beekay · Post: # 752628Post **Beekay** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:31pm

He will be remembered as the animal he is.

Geez if I had 1/10 his ferocity and attack on the football, I'd be one of the first 5 selected players at the Tigers.

TassieJones · Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:32pm

yeah +1 for a step below Harves, but still an absolute champ.

will be fondly remembered as an absolute gun by a majority of st kilda fans, but may be underrated in retirement in the context the whole competition.

in my opinion he is in the top handful of midfielders from the past decade, on a similar level to simon black.

Hurricane · Post: # 752634Post **Hurricane** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:33pm

Lenny is a dead set future Hall of Famer and depending on if and when we win a Premership and if he wins a Brownlow will determine if he becomes a legend of not.

Well in our top 20 players of all time, pretty close to top 10 IMHO

BANG BANG

remboy · Post: # 752666Post **remboy** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:47pm

He is one of those rare players that nobody has a bad word for.

fonz_#15 · Post: # 752667Post **fonz_#15** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:47pm

remboy wrote:He is one of those rare players that nobody has a bad word for.

like Harvey?

Spinner · Post: # 752688Post **Spinner** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:56pm

Hardness.

Saintschampions08 · Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:57pm

We've had 11 games without Harves...and you've already forgotten how good he is

Hayes is outstanding...but Harves was special

perfectionist · Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:58pm

I note that in that midfield special that Bruce did a few weeks ago Luke Ball seems to have transferred his "love" from Robert Harvey to Lenny. So he thinks he's pretty good. Luke played pretty well today too.

fonz_#15 · Post: # 752698Post **fonz_#15** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 6:59pm

Saintschampions08 wrote:We've had 11 games without Harves...and you've already forgotten how good he is

Hayes is outstanding...but Harves was special

I have not forgotten how good harvey was and never will, but i think hayes has been sold short for many years.

felixleo · Post: # 752704Post **felixleo** » Sat 06 Jun 2009 7:01pm

Ask the players and it is fairly obvious who is the most respected at the club now. Which because Max and bakes have been there longer and bally and del are competing with him in this respect speaks volumes. As to whether he will surpass Harves only time will tell. We will have to weigh up whether two brownlows are worth a premiership or more.