Are we St Kilda or are we Frankston?

[barks4eva]

St Kilda is having it's family day in Frankston at Frankston Park oval.

Melbourne is having it's family day at Luna Park in St Kilda.

Even Hawthorn who now train at Waverley had their family day at Glenferrie Oval in Hawthorn.

The name St Kilda now seems to stand for nothing with the current board further distancing itself from it's origins.

Fitzroy started on a path of not really having a home, moving from one place to the next, losing it's identity and now St Kilda are going down the same path.

What would make this club a powerhouse is to embrace the suburb from which it originated and why this club is actually called the ST KILDA football club!

We are not Frankston, we are not Seaford!

The previous board made sure we had a presence in St Kilda at the St Kilda festival and even had a family day at Luna Park, the current board seem to be turning us into the Frankston football club and all at the call of Archie Fraser who is not even at our club anymore!


The club is being sold down the river and the decision to relocate to the back blocks of Seaford and have family days at Frankston is an absolute disgrace!

BLASPHEMY!

You should all be ashamed!

[GeorgeYoung27]

Are we Moorabbin or are we Waverley?

or are we Docklands?

Are they Hawthorn or are they Carlton, Waverley or Launceston?

Are they Collingwood or are they Richmond or East Melbourne?

Is this the VFL or is it the AFL?

Are they North Melbourne are they Kangaroos, Canberra, Gold Coast, Carlton, East Melbourne, Docklands, Sydney or ....?

Like sands through the hour glass these are the days of our lives.

[st.byron]

Still waiting for those genuine options in the St.Kilda area that you were going to come up with Barks.

[barks4eva]

Still waiting for those genuine options in the St.Kilda area that you were going to come up with Barks.

I've named many options before!

You seriously can't convince me that there is no vacant lot between Port Melbourne and Sandringham where the club could negotiate with a local council and establish itself!

Even Dendy Park in Brighton would be a better option, one I have not previously mentioned!

At the AGM, Archie Fraser invited me to his office in front of the members who attended and PROMISED to show me documentary evidence to verify his claims that SERIOUS investigation of all those options was entertained.

Surprisingly or NOT, Archie Fraser has not yet replied to my email!

Normally his replies are fielded within a few days, perhaps he is extra busy, I will be interested to see if he makes good on his PROMISE!

Archie also promised me ( "I promise you" PROMISE was his word not mine ) that the members would have a say in the next clash jumper design and the fact is, that never happened!

A family day should be held in St Kilda, a central location that is not only in the suburb that bears the name of this football club, but one that is fair for all members in terms of distance to travel.

Melbourne football club are having their family day at Luna Park in St KILDA

[dalboy]

We are St.Kilda!

[GrumpyOne]

We are St.Kilda!

No we are not.

We are St Kilda.

[saintlee]

St Kilda is having it's family day in Frankston at Frankston Park oval.

Melbourne is having it's family day at Luna Park in St Kilda.

Even Hawthorn who now train at Waverley had their family day at Glenferrie Oval in Hawthorn.

The name St Kilda now seems to stand for nothing with the current board further distancing itself from it's origins.

Fitzroy started on a path of not really having a home, moving from one place to the next, losing it's identity and now St Kilda are going down the same path.

What would make this club a powerhouse is to embrace the suburb from which it originated and why this club is actually called the ST KILDA football club!

We are not Frankston, we are not Seaford!

The previous board made sure we had a presence in St Kilda at the St Kilda festival and even had a family day at Luna Park, the current board seem to be turning us into the Frankston football club and all at the call of Archie Fraser who is not even at our club anymore!


The club is being sold down the river and the decision to relocate to the back blocks of Seaford and have family days at Frankston is an absolute disgrace!

BLASPHEMY!

You should all be ashamed!

Why do I feel like I've read this rant before....

[Go Sainters Go]

Barks4Eva, it is an absolute insult to the Barker family you using their name with the outlandish garbage that you come out with.
Change your name for the sake of the Barker family please without delay and further garbage.

[plugger66]

St Kilda is having it's family day in Frankston at Frankston Park oval.

Melbourne is having it's family day at Luna Park in St Kilda.

Even Hawthorn who now train at Waverley had their family day at Glenferrie Oval in Hawthorn.

The name St Kilda now seems to stand for nothing with the current board further distancing itself from it's origins.

Fitzroy started on a path of not really having a home, moving from one place to the next, losing it's identity and now St Kilda are going down the same path.

What would make this club a powerhouse is to embrace the suburb from which it originated and why this club is actually called the ST KILDA football club!

We are not Frankston, we are not Seaford!

The previous board made sure we had a presence in St Kilda at the St Kilda festival and even had a family day at Luna Park, the current board seem to be turning us into the Frankston football club and all at the call of Archie Fraser who is not even at our club anymore!


The club is being sold down the river and the decision to relocate to the back blocks of Seaford and have family days at Frankston is an absolute disgrace!

BLASPHEMY!

You should all be ashamed!

Just a couple of questions. Firstly are you B4E or someone who escaped from some institution and secondly wasnt last years family day at frankston and who was in charge then. Finally the previous board never had a family day at Luna Park but it may make your arguement sound better to tell untruths. talking about Luna Park that sounds like a place you should be at but the last name is Bin.

[HarveysDeciple]

Good luck getting a park if the family day was anywhere near St.Kilda...

as a former resident nothing but permit zones and restricted areas...

[st.byron]

Still waiting for those genuine options in the St.Kilda area that you were going to come up with Barks.

I've named many options before!

You seriously can't convince me that there is no vacant lot between Port Melbourne and Sandringham where the club could negotiate with a local council and establish itself!

Even Dendy Park in Brighton would be a better option, one I have not previously mentioned!

:

Dendy Park in Brighton - that's one - not necessarily a viable one but at least you've named one. You say you've named many before. Apart from Elsternwick Park and the Junction Oval - those others would be?
And ...... just naming an existing sports ground - you can list every one in the City of Port Phillip if you like - that doesn't answer my question Barks.
The question is - How many genuinely VIABLE options do you know of in the St.Kilda area?

[Mr Magic]

Still waiting for those genuine options in the St.Kilda area that you were going to come up with Barks.

I've named many options before!

You seriously can't convince me that there is no vacant lot between Port Melbourne and Sandringham where the club could negotiate with a local council and establish itself!

Even Dendy Park in Brighton would be a better option, one I have not previously mentioned!

:

Dendy Park in Brighton - that's one - not necessarily a viable one but at least you've named one. You say you've named many before. Apart from Elsternwick Park and the Junction Oval - those others would be?
And ...... just naming an existing sports ground - you can list every one in the City of Port Phillip if you like - that doesn't answer my question Barks.
The question is - How many genuinely VIABLE options do you know of in the St.Kilda area?

Unless it's changed dramatically in the last few years, Dendy Park is not available.
I used to hire it for Junior Footy training and it was so tied up with soccer clubs that we had to give it away as a venue because we could never get it when we wanted/neede it.

[SENsei]

I vote that we should celebrate the lasting legacy of Archie's push down the peninsula and move the family day down further from Frankston....to Arthur's Seat.

For the day, we can rename it Archie's Seat.

The chairlift is safe down there isn't it?

[barks4eva]

I sort of expect this response from those that just blindly follow and believe everything they are told.

I have contacted Archie, congratulated him on his new appointment, thanked him for his offer and as yet he has NOT responded to my polite enquiry as to what would be a convenient time to view these so called "confidential" documents that apparently back up his claims that he on behalf of the
St Kilda football club fully investigated all areas from Port Melbourne to Sandringham, before he actually departs from the club!

Without wanting to sound alarmist I have a potentially life threatening situation that requires further diagnosis, it is suspected by doctors that I have some internal bleeding in my head, going back to hospital again.........

Although I feel in my heart that I will be ok, it is possible that I could die at any moment with this condition, therefore if in the event that this did happen,

I would like another member to follow up on this to see if in fact these claims by Archie Fraser can be substantiated with supporting evidence!

Perhaps Joffaboy, Mr Magic, Casey Scorp or anyone else who has a good head for business and are not one of the flock who believe everything they are fed, could take Archie up on his promise, before he leaves for his next appointment!

Cheers

[SENsei]

If that is a serious comment, B4E, about your health, then I wish you all the best.

Surely that shows there are more important things then to worry about than a family day at Frankston?

And about Archie's offer, I would suggest it was made in jest just to shut you up at the AGM.

I think the real question here should be....would you turn up to his correct office or his old office?? Ala the ruck stats, coaching box scandal of 2006!!

[plugger66]

I sort of expect this response from those that just blindly follow and believe everything they are told.

I have contacted Archie, congratulated him on his new appointment, thanked him for his offer and as yet he has NOT responded to my polite enquiry as to what would be a convenient time to view these so called "confidential" documents that apparently back up his claims that he on behalf of the
St Kilda football club fully investigated all areas from Port Melbourne to Sandringham, before he actually departs from the club!

Without wanting to sound alarmist I have a potentially life threatening situation that requires further diagnosis, it is suspected by doctors that I have some internal bleeding in my head, going back to hospital again.........

Although I feel in my heart that I will be ok, it is possible that I could die at any moment with this condition, therefore if in the event that this did happen,

I would like another member to follow up on this to see if in fact these claims by Archie Fraser can be substantiated with supporting evidence!

Perhaps Joffaboy, Mr Magic, Casey Scorp or anyone else who has a good head for business and are not one of the flock who believe everything they are fed, could take Archie up on his promise, before he leaves for his next appointment!

Cheers

How about explaining why the previous committee had the last family day at Frankston or is that to hard to explain and whilst you are at it please give us the date the last committee had a family day at Luna Park. Looking forward to your response or will you ignore me because the answers will not help your arguement.

[kaos theory]

I've named many options before!

You seriously can't convince me that there is no vacant lot between Port Melbourne and Sandringham where the club could negotiate with a local council and establish itself!

Even Dendy Park in Brighton would be a better option, one I have not previously mentioned!

Complete GARBAGE!

Honestly B4E, why are you continuing with your propaganda and lies? Are you mentally deranged?

FFS - there were only two VIABLE options for the club. Go it? TWO!

That is: Cranborne or Seaford/Frankston.

For the 100th time: We are NOT a big company with huge cash reserves to splash around on lobbyists, lawyers, councilors, government officials, etc, to push through a more trendy inner city option, just to suit you.

The previous admin wasted 100s of thousands of dollars on trying to get Moorabbin council to agree, and it failed.

Those that live in the real world, as opposed to the fantasy land you inhabit, understand that big projects are COMPLEX and messy endeavours. There are MANY competing interests to deal with, and it takes up a LOT of time & money to plan and execute.

We need a high-class facility ASAP, and you keep prattling about a dream world where the saints train in some high-class facility the club builds the heart of st.kilda.

Amazing....

[stinger]

I sort of expect this response from those that just blindly follow and believe everything they are told.

I have contacted Archie, congratulated him on his new appointment, thanked him for his offer and as yet he has NOT responded to my polite enquiry as to what would be a convenient time to view these so called "confidential" documents that apparently back up his claims that he on behalf of the
St Kilda football club fully investigated all areas from Port Melbourne to Sandringham, before he actually departs from the club!

Without wanting to sound alarmist I have a potentially life threatening situation that requires further diagnosis, it is suspected by doctors that I have some internal bleeding in my head, going back to hospital again.........

Although I feel in my heart that I will be ok, it is possible that I could die at any moment with this condition, therefore if in the event that this did happen,

I would like another member to follow up on this to see if in fact these claims by Archie Fraser can be substantiated with supporting evidence!

Perhaps Joffaboy, Mr Magic, Casey Scorp or anyone else who has a good head for business and are not one of the flock who believe everything they are fed, could take Archie up on his promise, before he leaves for his next appointment!

Cheers

sorry to hear that mate.........so.... i think you have more important things to worry about than that git archie keeping a promise to you that he never probably intended to keep in the first place........

[stinger]

I sort of expect this response from those that just blindly follow and believe everything they are told.

I have contacted Archie, congratulated him on his new appointment, thanked him for his offer and as yet he has NOT responded to my polite enquiry as to what would be a convenient time to view these so called "confidential" documents that apparently back up his claims that he on behalf of the
St Kilda football club fully investigated all areas from Port Melbourne to Sandringham, before he actually departs from the club!

Without wanting to sound alarmist I have a potentially life threatening situation that requires further diagnosis, it is suspected by doctors that I have some internal bleeding in my head, going back to hospital again.........

Although I feel in my heart that I will be ok, it is possible that I could die at any moment with this condition, therefore if in the event that this did happen,

I would like another member to follow up on this to see if in fact these claims by Archie Fraser can be substantiated with supporting evidence!

Perhaps Joffaboy, Mr Magic, Casey Scorp or anyone else who has a good head for business and are not one of the flock who believe everything they are fed, could take Archie up on his promise, before he leaves for his next appointment!

Cheers

How about explaining why the previous committee had the last family day at Frankston or is that to hard to explain and whilst you are at it please give us the date the last committee had a family day at Luna Park. Looking forward to your response or will you ignore me because the answers will not help your arguement.

i remember a family day at luna park.......it was the year north beat us in the grannie of the pre season cup.......i also remember chatting to the coach......stan....

[plugger66]

I sort of expect this response from those that just blindly follow and believe everything they are told.

I have contacted Archie, congratulated him on his new appointment, thanked him for his offer and as yet he has NOT responded to my polite enquiry as to what would be a convenient time to view these so called "confidential" documents that apparently back up his claims that he on behalf of the
St Kilda football club fully investigated all areas from Port Melbourne to Sandringham, before he actually departs from the club!

Without wanting to sound alarmist I have a potentially life threatening situation that requires further diagnosis, it is suspected by doctors that I have some internal bleeding in my head, going back to hospital again.........

Although I feel in my heart that I will be ok, it is possible that I could die at any moment with this condition, therefore if in the event that this did happen,

I would like another member to follow up on this to see if in fact these claims by Archie Fraser can be substantiated with supporting evidence!

Perhaps Joffaboy, Mr Magic, Casey Scorp or anyone else who has a good head for business and are not one of the flock who believe everything they are fed, could take Archie up on his promise, before he leaves for his next appointment!

Cheers

How about explaining why the previous committee had the last family day at Frankston or is that to hard to explain and whilst you are at it please give us the date the last committee had a family day at Luna Park. Looking forward to your response or will you ignore me because the answers will not help your arguement.

i remember a family day at luna park.......it was the year north beat us in the grannie of the pre season cup.......i also remember chatting to the coach......stan....

There was 2 in a row at Luna park and have some great pictures of my then 3 month old girl with all the players but that was 13 years ago. B4E said the previous Committee had some there which is plainly not true.

[goodie]

Still waiting for those genuine options in the St.Kilda area that you were going to come up with Barks.

Even Dendy Park in Brighton would be a better option, one I have not previously mentioned!

Dendy Park would be a terrible option, the small road in would not tolerate the traffic and parking would be a nightmare for starters

[barks4eva]

Just a couple of questions. Firstly are you B4E or someone who escaped from some institution and secondly wasnt last years family day at frankston and who was in charge then. Finally the previous board never had a family day at Luna Park but it may make your arguement sound better to tell untruths. talking about Luna Park that sounds like a place you should be at but the last name is Bin.

How about explaining why the previous committee had the last family day at Frankston or is that to hard to explain and whilst you are at it please give us the date the last committee had a family day at Luna Park. Looking forward to your response or will you ignore me because the answers will not help your arguement.

1. Last year's family day was organized by the current board.

2. There was a family day at Luna Park under the previous administration.


edit, I remember a family day at Luna park, perhaps it was before the previous administration, but i thought it was more recent than that!


anyway that's where Melbourne are having their family day, in St Kilda!

[barks4eva]

Still waiting for those genuine options in the St.Kilda area that you were going to come up with Barks.

Even Dendy Park in Brighton would be a better option, one I have not previously mentioned!

Dendy Park would be a terrible option, the small road in would not tolerate the traffic and parking would be a nightmare for starters

Yeah you're probably right, but it would not be high up on my list of priorities anyway!

[joffaboy]

Looking forward to your response or will you ignore me because the answers will not help your arguement.

GOLD.



You accuse me of wanting shirtfronts and hits behind play - but when challenged to quote me you dont.

Oh becuae mabye that wouldn't suit your argument.

You incredible hypocrite

[plugger66]

Looking forward to your response or will you ignore me because the answers will not help your arguement.

GOLD.



You accuse me of wanting shirtfronts and hits behind play - but when challenged to quote me you dont.

Oh becuae mabye that wouldn't suit your argument.

You incredible hypocrite

Howde let B4E answer and you go back to the hating footy thread.