Allen out for 2009!

tweedaletomanning · Sat 06 Dec 2008 4:34pm

Just Confirmed...won't play (most of ) next year

Which rookie gets promoted??

Armoooo · Post: # 682756Post **Armoooo** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 4:38pm

Details please... if so this is devastating!!

Batnoe · Post: # 682757Post **Batnoe** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 4:38pm

I think they will go for a rookie that shows promise early... no use promoting one if they are not going to be played... if we are so down on players during the year and we need to promote one then the one that deserves it the most and going to play games gets the gig.. no need to promote a rookie before a bounce IMO as we still have 38 fit guys

tweedaletomanning · Sat 06 Dec 2008 4:40pm

Armoooo wrote:Details please... if so this is devastating!!

Had further surgery on hip

Can't train for 6 months, apparently.

News just confirmed by St.kfc

Armoooo · Post: # 682759Post **Armoooo** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 4:41pm

Shattering... Puts a lot more pressure on Heyne and Lycnh now... because realistically we probably need both of them to crack a spot in our forward line...

tweedaletomanning · Sat 06 Dec 2008 4:42pm

Armoooo wrote:Shattering... Puts a lot more pressure on Heyne and Lycnh now... because realistically we probably need both of them to crack a spot in our forward line...

agreed, someone is really going to have to step up!

St DAC · Post: # 682761Post **St DAC** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 4:48pm

tweedaletomanning wrote:
Armoooo wrote:Shattering... Puts a lot more pressure on Heyne and Lycnh now... because realistically we probably need both of them to crack a spot in our forward line...
agreed, someone is really going to have to step up!

Really? Exactly how many games and goals did he contribute in 2008 again?

It's sad (if true) for the young man, but no doubt we'll soldier on without him if we have to. And there's no pressure on any of the draftees to perform this year; they're still very wet behind the ears. If any of them play a senior game in 2009 it's a bonus.

Moccha · Post: # 682762Post **Moccha** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 4:51pm

You can't see him getting back from that. Did they botch the operation?

tweedaletomanning · Sat 06 Dec 2008 4:51pm

St DAC wrote:
tweedaletomanning wrote:
Armoooo wrote:Shattering... Puts a lot more pressure on Heyne and Lycnh now... because realistically we probably need both of them to crack a spot in our forward line...
agreed, someone is really going to have to step up!
Really? Exactly how many games and goals did he contribute in 2008 again?

It's sad (if true) for the young man, but no doubt we'll soldier on without him if we have to. And there's no pressure on any of the draftees to perform this year; they're still very wet behind the ears. If any of them play a senior game in 2009 it's a bonus.

But thats the reason someone ELSE will have to step up, he was set to be the next forward option to Roo, which we (desperately IMO) need.

Armoooo · Post: # 682764Post **Armoooo** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 4:52pm

St DAC wrote:
tweedaletomanning wrote:
Armoooo wrote:Shattering... Puts a lot more pressure on Heyne and Lycnh now... because realistically we probably need both of them to crack a spot in our forward line...
agreed, someone is really going to have to step up!
Really? Exactly how many games and goals did he contribute in 2008 again?

It's sad (if true) for the young man, but no doubt we'll soldier on without him if we have to. And there's no pressure on any of the draftees to perform this year; they're still very wet behind the ears. If any of them play a senior game in 2009 it's a bonus.

So you think we can play another season with Riewoldt the lone target up front? especially withou Harvey around to hit him up time after time...

tweedaletomanning · Sat 06 Dec 2008 4:53pm

Moccha wrote:You can't see him getting back from that. Did they botch the operation?

Or condition must have been worse than first thought.

Sainterman · Post: # 682766Post **Sainterman** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 4:55pm

Poor kid. Wishing hime a speedy and full recovery.

jays · Post: # 682773Post **jays** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 5:13pm

feel for the guy just stared to get games

milney044 · Post: # 682779Post **milney044** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 5:32pm

Bad luck Jarryd, another Sainter who has no luck with injuries.

Another thing..very poor by the official Saints site, they have a pic of Fergus Watts with the article. Honestly when i would dream of a job like running an AFL site it really makes me angry to see such a pathetic and clumsy effort. Fergus hasn't even been on the list for 12 months.

Best wishes Jarryd.

St DAC · Post: # 682795Post **St DAC** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 6:08pm

Armoooo wrote:So you think we can play another season with Riewoldt the lone target up front? especially withou Harvey around to hit him up time after time...

No I don't. But expecting a kid who has been at the club for one week to fill in at senior level is frankly beyond comprehension. Kids need time to develop.

BJ can play forward. McEvoy can as well. Kosi needs to step up as a key forward. Sam Fisher can play forward (we seem to have plenty of backs). There are options.

True Blue Sainter · Sat 06 Dec 2008 6:30pm

St DAC wrote:
Armoooo wrote:So you think we can play another season with Riewoldt the lone target up front? especially withou Harvey around to hit him up time after time...
No I don't. But expecting a kid who has been at the club for one week to fill in at senior level is frankly beyond comprehension. Kids need time to develop.

BJ can play forward. McEvoy can as well. Kosi needs to step up as a key forward. Sam Fisher can play forward (we seem to have plenty of backs). There are options.

Don't forget Michael Gardiner. He was a pretty handy pinch-hitting forward. Could do a job leading out of the square.

St Fidelius · Sat 06 Dec 2008 6:32pm

True Blue Sainter wrote:
St DAC wrote:
Armoooo wrote:So you think we can play another season with Riewoldt the lone target up front? especially withou Harvey around to hit him up time after time...
No I don't. But expecting a kid who has been at the club for one week to fill in at senior level is frankly beyond comprehension. Kids need time to develop.

BJ can play forward. McEvoy can as well. Kosi needs to step up as a key forward. Sam Fisher can play forward (we seem to have plenty of backs). There are options.
Don't forget Michael Gardiner. He was a pretty handy pinch-hitting forward. Could do a job leading out of the square.

I would much prefer McEvoy over Gardiner up forward

Saints Premiers 2008 · Sat 06 Dec 2008 6:43pm

he isn't a big loss as he hasn't exactly done anything of note

it gives lynch, hayne and mcevoy a chance here to really make a name potentially early in their career with consistant games

not the be all end all...one cannot say he was a huge loss either as he has never shown anything whilst playing...not saying he won't

however with the three mentioned above im confident one can stand up and shape a fantastic career

Legendary · Post: # 682804Post **Legendary** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 6:49pm

Jesus, the poor kid!

Feel so sorry for him ... had put in the hard yards and done the first two years which are meant to be the toughest ... was probably going to get a big opportunity in 2009 and he goes down with injury like that.

You can say what you like about our drafting, but when our youngsters like Allen get big injuries it makes it tough.

Speedy recover to him and best of luck, hopefully he can still become a solid player for us.

axcellence · Post: # 682812Post **axcellence** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 7:15pm

tough luck for him... he had that broken elbow in the first year.... must be a relation of Kosi's.

bobmurray · Post: # 682814Post **bobmurray** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 7:18pm

Gardiner is not a forwards bootlace,he proved that in the GF Sydney won...

They should play McEvoy at Full Forward,i just hope he doesn't break his nose trying to mark the pill.....

I hope they draft a couple of tall rookies,other than Haretuku and McGrath

they have 6 Rookie picks left,they don't all have to be midfield types..

Solar · Post: # 682819Post **Solar** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 7:32pm

shame, I hope this does not effect his mobility when he does come back.

means that lynch and big mac will get forward jobs in the pre-season. big chance to push into contention for the real season

Scoop · Post: # 682821Post **Scoop** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 7:45pm

tweedaletomanning wrote:
Moccha wrote:You can't see him getting back from that. Did they botch the operation?
Or condition must have been worse than first thought.

Condition was much worse than first thought.

undecided · Post: # 682827Post **undecided** » Sat 06 Dec 2008 8:29pm

every1 seems to b forgetting paul cahill, he is as much of a chance as lynch and heyne

Saints Premiers 2008 · Sat 06 Dec 2008 8:34pm

undecided wrote:every1 seems to b forgetting paul cahill, he is as much of a chance as lynch and heyne

disagree...cahill seems as if he is the developing ruckman...i know i don't really see the point of playing a developing ruckman as a third tall...

the myth that resting ruckman go into the forward line and kick goals is bulls***...how many did king and gardiner get???

the only ruckman that can do that in the league is ottens and he is in the top 3 one would imagine