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Cadel Evans has his say.......
In todays Australian....
Evans delivers doping message for Cousins
Cadel Evans says Ben Cousins should have nothing to fear about the anti-doping conditions imposed on the disgraced former West Coast Eagles star.
"If Ben Cousins is complaining the AFL is being too strict, come and be a road cyclist," Evans said.
"People don't realise we are by far and away the most drug tested human beings on earth. I sometimes get tested 3 times a week. As for hair tests, I've had four this year alone."
Evans estimates he has been subjected to upwards of 50 tests this year, both in and out of competition. "As for tests over my career? I can't answer that. I simply don't know, too many to count," he said.
Evans was required to make himself available for testing on a daily basis once he won the yellow jersey at the end of stage 10 at this year's Tour de France.
A staunch anti-doping campaigner, Evans maintains that the more drug tests are done on athletes then the more cheats are going to be caught......................
article goes on about Ricky Nixon & AFL Players Association expressiing concerns about Cousins being subjected to harsher treatment than other players.
IMHO, the more Nixon & Gale bang on the more they will frighten off Clubs, because sponsors will begin to get nervous. Tell them to shut up Ben..... you should be grateful you are being given a second chance....with years of dodgy behaviour dragging along behind you plus drug addiction you have to EARN trust, not expect it to be given to you just because you 'could' play a good game of footy a year or so back.
Evans delivers doping message for Cousins
Cadel Evans says Ben Cousins should have nothing to fear about the anti-doping conditions imposed on the disgraced former West Coast Eagles star.
"If Ben Cousins is complaining the AFL is being too strict, come and be a road cyclist," Evans said.
"People don't realise we are by far and away the most drug tested human beings on earth. I sometimes get tested 3 times a week. As for hair tests, I've had four this year alone."
Evans estimates he has been subjected to upwards of 50 tests this year, both in and out of competition. "As for tests over my career? I can't answer that. I simply don't know, too many to count," he said.
Evans was required to make himself available for testing on a daily basis once he won the yellow jersey at the end of stage 10 at this year's Tour de France.
A staunch anti-doping campaigner, Evans maintains that the more drug tests are done on athletes then the more cheats are going to be caught......................
article goes on about Ricky Nixon & AFL Players Association expressiing concerns about Cousins being subjected to harsher treatment than other players.
IMHO, the more Nixon & Gale bang on the more they will frighten off Clubs, because sponsors will begin to get nervous. Tell them to shut up Ben..... you should be grateful you are being given a second chance....with years of dodgy behaviour dragging along behind you plus drug addiction you have to EARN trust, not expect it to be given to you just because you 'could' play a good game of footy a year or so back.
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fair enough except for one thingloris wrote:In todays Australian....
Evans delivers doping message for Cousins
Cadel Evans says Ben Cousins should have nothing to fear about the anti-doping conditions imposed on the disgraced former West Coast Eagles star.
"If Ben Cousins is complaining the AFL is being too strict, come and be a road cyclist," Evans said.
"People don't realise we are by far and away the most drug tested human beings on earth. I sometimes get tested 3 times a week. As for hair tests, I've had four this year alone."
Evans estimates he has been subjected to upwards of 50 tests this year, both in and out of competition. "As for tests over my career? I can't answer that. I simply don't know, too many to count," he said.
Evans was required to make himself available for testing on a daily basis once he won the yellow jersey at the end of stage 10 at this year's Tour de France.
A staunch anti-doping campaigner, Evans maintains that the more drug tests are done on athletes then the more cheats are going to be caught......................
article goes on about Ricky Nixon & AFL Players Association expressiing concerns about Cousins being subjected to harsher treatment than other players.
IMHO, the more Nixon & Gale bang on the more they will frighten off Clubs, because sponsors will begin to get nervous. Tell them to shut up Ben..... you should be grateful you are being given a second chance....with years of dodgy behaviour dragging along behind you plus drug addiction you have to EARN trust, not expect it to be given to you just because you 'could' play a good game of footy a year or so back.
I would like to know how Mister Evans would feel, if he was the only one being subjected to these tests, while other people who have tested positive twice, do not have too undergo the same strenuous tests
ask him how he would feel then?
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Re: Cadel Evans has his say.......
agreedsainteronline wrote:fair enough except for one thingloris wrote:In todays Australian....
Evans delivers doping message for Cousins
Cadel Evans says Ben Cousins should have nothing to fear about the anti-doping conditions imposed on the disgraced former West Coast Eagles star.
"If Ben Cousins is complaining the AFL is being too strict, come and be a road cyclist," Evans said.
"People don't realise we are by far and away the most drug tested human beings on earth. I sometimes get tested 3 times a week. As for hair tests, I've had four this year alone."
Evans estimates he has been subjected to upwards of 50 tests this year, both in and out of competition. "As for tests over my career? I can't answer that. I simply don't know, too many to count," he said.
Evans was required to make himself available for testing on a daily basis once he won the yellow jersey at the end of stage 10 at this year's Tour de France.
A staunch anti-doping campaigner, Evans maintains that the more drug tests are done on athletes then the more cheats are going to be caught......................
article goes on about Ricky Nixon & AFL Players Association expressiing concerns about Cousins being subjected to harsher treatment than other players.
IMHO, the more Nixon & Gale bang on the more they will frighten off Clubs, because sponsors will begin to get nervous. Tell them to shut up Ben..... you should be grateful you are being given a second chance....with years of dodgy behaviour dragging along behind you plus drug addiction you have to EARN trust, not expect it to be given to you just because you 'could' play a good game of footy a year or so back.
I would like to know how Mister Evans would feel, if he was the only one being subjected to these tests, while other people who have tested positive twice, do not have too undergo the same strenuous tests
ask him how he would feel then?
end of discussion really
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that is fine for the clubGo Sainters Go wrote:The greater number of tests, urine and hair, that Cousins is subjected to the greater the incentive for Cousins to stay clean and be fully rehabilitated,
I think the Club should see it this way as well.
please tell me why cousins should be singled out
and blatantly discriminated against?
When other people have tested positive twice, yet don't have to undergo the same amount of testing
I say it again "blatant discrimination"
no matter which way you look at it
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so you're saying because he is doing rehabilitationGo Sainters Go wrote:Does it really matter - his rehabilitation is what it's all about, staying clean and playing good footy.
he should be discriminated against
as opposed to people who have tested positive twice
and are also probably going under rehabilitation
yet do not get the same stringent testing regime
I don't understand your logic
the discrimination is blatant
contamination:sainteronline wrote:wtf?Pilgram wrote:i think it does matter when we are comparing a guy that wears a helmet in a non-contact sport.Go Sainters Go wrote:Does it really matter...
what matters to me the most is the potential for contamination.
"g'day ben how are ya? everything going well?"
no that is conversationPilgram wrote:contamination:sainteronline wrote:wtf?Pilgram wrote:i think it does matter when we are comparing a guy that wears a helmet in a non-contact sport.Go Sainters Go wrote:Does it really matter...
what matters to me the most is the potential for contamination.
"g'day ben how are ya? everything going well?"
contamination is what they obviously done to your baby bottle, when you were a child, with very copious amounts of hard liquor from the sounds of things
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hrmmmmmm how many drug cheats has cycling had ??? how many has the AFL ?? no comparison Cadel
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are you from this planet or what ?? what a strange individual you arePilgram wrote:*ben, head over ball, shrugs tackle, cops finger in eye, blood streaming from his face, seeks treatment*
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as a footballer cadel makes a great cyclist.
piss testing is a no brainer.
hair testing is something altogether different.
the hair testing is something that has come about with AD asking SADA why the phook the bill is so expensive for the piss testing and SADA coming back and saying that they have a new 'more prudent' mode of testing athletes these days [hair testing] great! saves money, saves time, less labwork, less on-site work, means the AFL dont have to spend as money -fantastic! except that i conveniently forgot to mention in practice, and with contact sports, results may vary due to the propensity for contamination of smaples by virtue of the being external material rather than an internal material.
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"just great moondog, never better"
piss testing is a no brainer.
hair testing is something altogether different.
the hair testing is something that has come about with AD asking SADA why the phook the bill is so expensive for the piss testing and SADA coming back and saying that they have a new 'more prudent' mode of testing athletes these days [hair testing] great! saves money, saves time, less labwork, less on-site work, means the AFL dont have to spend as money -fantastic! except that i conveniently forgot to mention in practice, and with contact sports, results may vary due to the propensity for contamination of smaples by virtue of the being external material rather than an internal material.
"benny, how are ya? doing well?"
"just great moondog, never better"
I see so what you're saying is that drugs are now floating in the air?Pilgram wrote:as a footballer cadel makes a great cyclist.
piss testing is a no brainer.
hair testing is something altogether different.
the hair testing is something that has come about with AD asking SADA why the phook the bill is so expensive for the piss testing and SADA coming back and saying that they have a new 'more prudent' mode of testing athletes these days [hair testing] great! saves money, saves time, less labwork, less on-site work, means the AFL dont have to spend as money -fantastic! except that i conveniently forgot to mention in practice, and with contact sports, results may vary due to the propensity for contamination of smaples by virtue of the being external material rather than an internal material.
"benny, how are ya? doing well?"
"just great moondog, never better"
Seek help
quickly
i'm not a doctor.sainteronline wrote:I see so what you're saying is that drugs are now floating in the air?Pilgram wrote:as a footballer cadel makes a great cyclist.
piss testing is a no brainer.
hair testing is something altogether different.
the hair testing is something that has come about with AD asking SADA why the phook the bill is so expensive for the piss testing and SADA coming back and saying that they have a new 'more prudent' mode of testing athletes these days [hair testing] great! saves money, saves time, less labwork, less on-site work, means the AFL dont have to spend as money -fantastic! except that i conveniently forgot to mention in practice, and with contact sports, results may vary due to the propensity for contamination of smaples by virtue of the being external material rather than an internal material.
"benny, how are ya? doing well?"
"just great moondog, never better"
Seek help
quickly
drugs are everywhere.
sainteronline wrote:and obviously you have tried a few too manyPilgram wrote:
i'm not a doctor.
drugs are everywhere.![]()
pretty darn good ones to by the looks of things
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just on a serious note, the only benefit i can think of in favour of hair testing, is that it is a money saving practice over the piss test.
when you have to pay someone three times a week or four times per year the hair test works out more cost effectively overall.
I will say this only oncePilgram wrote: just on a serious note, the only benefit i can think of in favour of hair testing, is that it is a money saving practice over the piss test.
when you have to pay someone three times a week or four times per year the hair test works out more cost effectively overall.
they are doing both
hair testing and urine testing
the reason being the hair can be tested for (approximately) three months previous
they are not actually saving any money by doing the hair tests, they are incurring more costs
on a serious note
you are obviously still on some pretty good shyte
please stay away from Benny
you might try to run through him
why piss test when you can hair test?sainteronline wrote:they are not actually saving any money by doing the hair tests, they are incurring more costs
why not test four times per year (with hair) rather than everyday (with piss)
the rule as stated by the AFL was worded suchly that they entitle themselves to the right to do
"up to three urine tests per week and hair test up to four times per year" or words to that effect.
they can technically cover 365 days of the year with just four (4) hair tests provided that there is hair to test.
alternatively they can piss test three times per week provided there is piss.
now, example a (a) for the cretins.
example a:
ben cousins has no hair.
the AFL need to test his piss three times per week due to the fact that there is no hair to test.
example (a) is more expensive for the AFL to employ than example b (b)
example b:
ben cousins has hair
The AFL do a hairtest
the AFL do not have to test for ninety days provided that ben cousins remains to have hair.
the AFL save money by not having to piss test for ninety days or at the will of the tester.
summary - it is cheaper to hairtest than pisstest thusly the AFL saves money.
conclusion - "someone" saves money.
wtf has that got to do with contamination?Pilgram wrote:why piss test when you can hair test?sainteronline wrote:they are not actually saving any money by doing the hair tests, they are incurring more costs
why not test four times per year (with hair) rather than everyday (with piss)
the rule as stated by the AFL was worded suchly that they entitle themselves to the right to do
"up to three urine tests per week and hair test up to four times per year" or words to that effect.
they can technically cover 365 days of the year with just four (4) hair tests provided that there is hair to test.
alternatively they can piss test three times per week provided there is piss.
now, example a (a) for the cretins.
example a:
ben cousins has no hair.
the AFL need to test his piss three times per week due to the fact that there is no hair to test.
example (a) is more expensive for the AFL to employ than example b (b)
example b:
ben cousins has hair
The AFL do a hairtest
the AFL do not have to test for ninety days provided that ben cousins remains to have hair.
the AFL save money by not having to piss test for ninety days or at the will of the tester.
summary - it is cheaper to hairtest than pisstest thusly the AFL saves money.
conclusion - "someone" saves money.
secondly so what if the afl wish to save money prudent business practice
3rdly it's the amount of testing that he has to undergo compared to other people who have tested positive twice that is the issue