FIORA The very end
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As Ive said time and again . When you want him to stand up in a pressure game (not a game where we are on top and clearing the ball easily from congestion) he goes missing .
He did it again today . Doesnt man up , doesnt put on anywhere near the required pressure on the opposition . Not tough enough or good enough. But we keep perseverring with him . GO FIGURE
He did it again today . Doesnt man up , doesnt put on anywhere near the required pressure on the opposition . Not tough enough or good enough. But we keep perseverring with him . GO FIGURE
Go Sainters !!!!!
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Agreed.
I'm so dissappointed in so many players today. I thought we had finally reached a stage where players were forced to become accountable because of the strength of certain players either a) playing for the scorps or b) coming back from injury. Clearly the likes of Fiora and Schneider dont bleed for this club.
One great f***ing positive though was to see Robert Eddy's endeavour and hard at it approach today, undeniably earned a spot for the next few weeks.
I'm so dissappointed in so many players today. I thought we had finally reached a stage where players were forced to become accountable because of the strength of certain players either a) playing for the scorps or b) coming back from injury. Clearly the likes of Fiora and Schneider dont bleed for this club.
One great f***ing positive though was to see Robert Eddy's endeavour and hard at it approach today, undeniably earned a spot for the next few weeks.
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Today should have proved beyond doubt that several players will never make it at our club.
MG and AF
AS is not far behind. I know he is in his first year but he has done nothing to prove the Swines wrong.
MG and AF
AS is not far behind. I know he is in his first year but he has done nothing to prove the Swines wrong.
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Jeez, the usual knee jerk reactions. The fact is we don't travel very well, and we have to deal with that. I thought even Rooey had a quiet mistake ridden game, and when he plays sh*t we lose.
Thought Milneys effort around the ground was top class though.
I agree about Fiora, better players in the Magoos like Birss.
Couldn't put up with that one eyed WA commentating on Foxtel though. Had to watch on mute.
On the positive side, we won a game we had pencilled in as a loss last week, and lost a game we had as a win this week. So were about even for the run home.![Wink :wink:](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
Thought Milneys effort around the ground was top class though.
I agree about Fiora, better players in the Magoos like Birss.
Couldn't put up with that one eyed WA commentating on Foxtel though. Had to watch on mute.
On the positive side, we won a game we had pencilled in as a loss last week, and lost a game we had as a win this week. So were about even for the run home.
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This thread was inevitable......
Bagging one of the bottom 6 players for losing......he is a fringe player, thats it....
Today, for the first and last time I watched the game at the social club on the big screen.....and Fiora (no matter what he did) was the villian...even when Lecras got a kick, and Fiora was not on him....and when he did something positive - NO one said a word - he has turned into the biggest scapegoat since Tim Elliott....
I say it again, he is a fringe player.....and NO way was he responsibe for the loss....he was not great, but better credentialled players were insipid!!!
Some players are protected here, some are victimised.....and some supporters are absolute morons......three things I learned from being at Moorrabbin today
Bagging one of the bottom 6 players for losing......he is a fringe player, thats it....
Today, for the first and last time I watched the game at the social club on the big screen.....and Fiora (no matter what he did) was the villian...even when Lecras got a kick, and Fiora was not on him....and when he did something positive - NO one said a word - he has turned into the biggest scapegoat since Tim Elliott....
I say it again, he is a fringe player.....and NO way was he responsibe for the loss....he was not great, but better credentialled players were insipid!!!
Some players are protected here, some are victimised.....and some supporters are absolute morons......three things I learned from being at Moorrabbin today
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Agreed...Fiora was not a bad player today. Was ok. Was not good.BigMart wrote:This thread was inevitable......
Bagging one of the bottom 6 players for losing......he is a fringe player, thats it....
Today, for the first and last time I watched the game at the social club on the big screen.....and Fiora (no matter what he did) was the villian...even when Lecras got a kick, and Fiora was not on him....and when he did something positive - NO one said a word - he has turned into the biggest scapegoat since Tim Elliott....
I say it again, he is a fringe player.....and NO way was he responsibe for the loss....he was not great, but better credentialled players were insipid!!!
Some players are protected here, some are victimised.....and some supporters are absolute morons......three things I learned from being at Moorrabbin today
He also used the ball better than most...as most were shoddy today.
By contrast...Dal did not doa lot more despite havinga midfield role.
Armo did not win mych ball.
Gardi was dreadful.
Sam had a heap of the ball..but sprayed it everywhere.
Schneider was dreadful..far worse than Fiora.
Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
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BigMart wrote: I say it again, he is a fringe player.....and NO way was he responsibe for the loss....he was not great, but better credentialled players were insipid!!!
While I agree he had nothing to do with us losing the game- surely he was already skating on thin ice and lucky to get a game the last 2 weeks.
Has had ample chances to prove his worth- time to let someone else have a crack and move him on.
Who knows what potential future talent he is keeping out of the side??
I bought a shirt from Target once.
It had a hard tag on it too.
I know how Dal feels.
It had a hard tag on it too.
I know how Dal feels.
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Adam Fiora wasnt great but he was far from our worst player today at least he tried to present & give a option not too many others did especiallly in the second half & as i said in previous messagge we were out on our feet by half time dont know if was jet lag the heat or media hype but they were going up & down in the one spot after half time & they knew it & put us to the sword
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If you drew up a list of all 22 and rated them in terms of how they played today in terms of your relative expectation of what they would and should have delivered...Fiora's effort would have got an ok.
Many others would have received a mark of below average.
Several would have gained a fail.
Many others would have received a mark of below average.
Several would have gained a fail.
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Adam Fiorasaintly_safes wrote:Adam Fiora wasnt great but he was far from our worst player today at least he tried to present & give a option not too many others did especiallly in the second half & as i said in previous messagge we were out on our feet by half time dont know if was jet lag the heat or media hype but they were going up & down in the one spot after half time & they knew it & put us to the sword
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Just get rid of him. We constantly argue on here over Fiora - the only constant being that he continually puts in insipid, soft performances that are punctuated by the odd...very odd...game where he might perform. Then the arguments start over whether he should be persisted with or not.
Sick of people justifying his perfomance by more or less saying "he played to the level you would expect from him". Hello? It's about time he was told that that level is no where near good enough and shown the door.
Sick of putting up with substandard players who, deep down, we all know will never be the type of player we can rely on to take the team to the next level, and he is is clearly one in that category.
Whilst I have been critical of someone like Blake in the past, he has always had courage and stamina, and an ability to put his body on the line. Whilst his skill level has not always been great, skill levels can be taught/improved - when it comes to hardness, however, I believe you either have it or you don't.
This is Fiora's major downfall and always will be.
Sick of people justifying his perfomance by more or less saying "he played to the level you would expect from him". Hello? It's about time he was told that that level is no where near good enough and shown the door.
Sick of putting up with substandard players who, deep down, we all know will never be the type of player we can rely on to take the team to the next level, and he is is clearly one in that category.
Whilst I have been critical of someone like Blake in the past, he has always had courage and stamina, and an ability to put his body on the line. Whilst his skill level has not always been great, skill levels can be taught/improved - when it comes to hardness, however, I believe you either have it or you don't.
This is Fiora's major downfall and always will be.
Please...let's win a Premiership before GEELONG!!!! (O.k., so we've missed that opportunity...maybe let's win the next one before Geelong????)
fiora never deserved a recall last week on his performances in the vfl.
ross threw him in a side in good form to see if he could swim and he drowned.
geary or birss have been by far our 2 best players at casey and desrve their chance.
past experience tells us that fiora isnt up to the standard of football we are trying to implement, no defensive pressure, tackling poor, skills inconsistant and no guts n determination.
in saying all that i feel for fiora who dont get me wrong is a talent but just couldnt take the next step!
ross threw him in a side in good form to see if he could swim and he drowned.
geary or birss have been by far our 2 best players at casey and desrve their chance.
past experience tells us that fiora isnt up to the standard of football we are trying to implement, no defensive pressure, tackling poor, skills inconsistant and no guts n determination.
in saying all that i feel for fiora who dont get me wrong is a talent but just couldnt take the next step!