St Kilda football club in costs blow-out on Frankston Park!!

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St Kilda football club in costs blow-out on Frankston Park!!

Post: # 589739Post saintnt »

Again in the Herald-Sun on-line this afternoon......

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June 19, 2008 12:14pm
A MULTI-million dollar cost blow-out has forced St Kilda footy club to rethink their controversial move to a new base in Frankston.

According to Localfooty.com, the expected $1.5 million cost of redeveloping Frankston Park into an elite football base has blown out by $5 million, putting the plan into deep doubt.

Saints boss Archie Fraser today confirmed the club was now reconsidering its move.

The financial crunch led Fraser to admit today that the Saints might look to other sites in Frankston if costs could not be reined in.

It’s believed Belvedere Park, which has been earmarked as a potential training venue for TAC Cup team the Dandenong Stingrays, is one alternative.

St Kilda’s contribution to the $10.25m elite training facility and administration centre at Frankston Park was put at $1.5 million when the project was announced amid great fanfare last November.

But it has got as high as $5 million, due largely to rising steel prices and building restrictions on the site.


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Post: # 589748Post sainta »

Being a local, Belvedere Park is a bit out of the way for fans who need to use public transport.


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Post: # 589759Post Enrico_Misso »

Excellent news.
First the Sandy alignment and now this.

Perhaps sanity will prevail in the end.

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Post: # 589785Post sainta »

For those of us who have never been to Sandringham oval, is it a possible place for re-location or is it not a good option?


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Post: # 589786Post krabb »

Does anyone know what they're doing down there?

Honestly... its laughable...and embarrassing.


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Post: # 589790Post Otiman »

sainta wrote:For those of us who have never been to Sandringham oval, is it a possible place for re-location or is it not a good option?
If there is an issue with cost at acquiring Frankston Oval, Trevor Barker Beach Oval will be even worse in that regard.


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Post: # 589792Post Otiman »

krabb wrote:Does anyone know what they're doing down there?

Honestly... its laughable...and embarrassing.
Surely they tendered the whole thing before getting the approval. Sounds like the costing numbers were crunched badly.


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Post: # 589929Post barks4eva »

TREVOR BARKER OVAL

Aside from the Junction Oval, this has to be our number one option,

Just make it happen, we are now aligned with Sandringham, this would be a dream scenario if this can be wokred through,

I'm sure Sandringham would be most welcoming,

More enticing for players to lure to our club with it's location, not that far from the city.

and besides what better location ( aside from the Junction Oval of course )than to have St.Kilda's training facility at the TREVOR BARKER OVAL

It just makes perfect sense!


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Post: # 589934Post Sainterman »

Can archie and the gang down there get anything right? Or do we just announce things and hope for the best...??


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Post: # 589940Post Otiman »

barks4eva wrote:TREVOR BARKER OVAL

Aside from the Junction Oval, this has to be our number one option,

Just make it happen, we are now aligned with Sandringham, this would be a dream scenario if this can be wokred through
If we can't afford to build at the site at Frankston Park, I don't think beachfront sandringham real estate will be within our budget.

Got 5+ million to share with the club?


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Post: # 590098Post marksnsparks »

You watch, the next thing to happen will be the AFL suggesting we be the club to move to Western Sydney.

Wouldn't surprise me if the calculator used to crunch the numbers for the Frankston redevelopment was a dodgy one supplied by Demetriou.


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Post: # 590112Post evertonfc »

Yet another Archie Fraser special.

I am truly gobsmacked he remains in charge. I didn't mind him at first but he is just shonky.

He is part of problem, not the solution. If he loves this club like he says, he should step aside for a superior candidate.
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Post: # 590136Post danners »

maybe there is no financial problem and they are just using that as the excuse to get out of frankston and go to sandy


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evertonfc wrote:Yet another Archie Fraser special.

I am truly gobsmacked he remains in charge. I didn't mind him at first but he is just shonky.

He is part of problem, not the solution. If he loves this club like he says, he should step aside for a superior candidate.
on SEN he just said;

Question, Is it possible for the whole deal to fall over?

Answer,
Definitely not. We're definitely going to Frankston.

Question; So you will be going to Frankston, but there's no guarantee it'll be Frankston park?

Answer; It still could be Frankston Park... but asked the council to check alternative sites also to it to see if they could work. One site that's come up in the last few months was to develop in conjunction a field in conjunction with the Dandenong Stingrays.
The main thing is the project is not going to fall over. We will do it. We will be going to Frankson, that's our strategy to be in the bayside suburbs. And we'll do it within budget and Maintain our bayside status.

What I heard was it will be done at Frankston and within the budget ??

Do you know something else?


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RBnW wrote:What I heard was it will be done at Frankston and within the budget ??

Do you know something else?
I'm not into CEOs full of hot corporate air.

Disappointed he wasn't moved on by Westaway, but he positioned himself superbly amidst the winds of change to keep his job.


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RBnW wrote:What I heard was it will be done at Frankston and within the budget ??

Do you know something else?
I'm not into CEOs full of hot corporate air.

Disappointed he wasn't moved on by Westaway, but he positioned himself superbly amidst the winds of change to keep his job.


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RBnW wrote:What I heard was it will be done at Frankston and within the budget ??

Do you know something else?
I'm not into CEOs full of hot corporate air.

Disappointed he wasn't moved on by Westaway, but he positioned himself superbly amidst the winds of change to keep his job.


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Post: # 590369Post Teflon »

Build it out of aluminium FFS... :wink:


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Post: # 590381Post Animal Enclosure »

Maybe they can re-design the elite training facility to match the current facilities at Moorabbin???

What a debacle... things just keep getting better. The one thing that has maintained my faith that club is in Melbourne to stay is the Frankston development. If this falls over we will be behind every other club except North Melbourne in terms of a quality training venue.


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