Bullied by Port yet again?
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Bullied by Port yet again?
Geelong beat us up a fortnight ago.
Port have bullied us physically for about 6 years. It's been embarrassing to watch.
Hearing Roo sledge Lovett last week was heart warming. It showed that at least in some way, he was prepared to cross a line. It wasn't physical, but it had a hard edge to it. It was a line that many say he shouldn't have crossed.
Every article I read saying that, made me smile. When have we heard or read about a Saint doing something 'bad' on-field since Hamill and Baker?
This is something that we haven't had since mid 2004. Pretty much the same time that Hamill and Goose were cut down.
If we get bullied again by Port tonight, I would be comfortable in saying that we simply do not have the personnel to win a flag. Not due to lack of skill, experience, pace etc. - but due to toughness.
Lenny Hayes is tough. He tried to rip Barry Hall's head off and didn't hesitate to do so when he saw him coming at him.
Baker is as tough and ruthless as they come.
Kosi is hard phyisically, but not mentally.
Max is hard.
Watching Armo go at it in the pre-season last year and so far this year should embarass many at the club.
Dare I say that's it.
Tonight is the time.
A loss tonight would be a disgrace. The only worse would be if it was due to being scared of Port again.
Port have bullied us physically for about 6 years. It's been embarrassing to watch.
Hearing Roo sledge Lovett last week was heart warming. It showed that at least in some way, he was prepared to cross a line. It wasn't physical, but it had a hard edge to it. It was a line that many say he shouldn't have crossed.
Every article I read saying that, made me smile. When have we heard or read about a Saint doing something 'bad' on-field since Hamill and Baker?
This is something that we haven't had since mid 2004. Pretty much the same time that Hamill and Goose were cut down.
If we get bullied again by Port tonight, I would be comfortable in saying that we simply do not have the personnel to win a flag. Not due to lack of skill, experience, pace etc. - but due to toughness.
Lenny Hayes is tough. He tried to rip Barry Hall's head off and didn't hesitate to do so when he saw him coming at him.
Baker is as tough and ruthless as they come.
Kosi is hard phyisically, but not mentally.
Max is hard.
Watching Armo go at it in the pre-season last year and so far this year should embarass many at the club.
Dare I say that's it.
Tonight is the time.
A loss tonight would be a disgrace. The only worse would be if it was due to being scared of Port again.
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Yes I agree that in recent years that PA has bullied and intimidated the Saints....and have gained and edge due to it.
The Saints need to lift in this regard.
If it is wet as predicted it will be even more important.
The Saints need to lift in this regard.
If it is wet as predicted it will be even more important.
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I'll get shot down for this but I think Williams is probably the best coach going around. He been able to take a sizable advantage over us with simple mind games.
Remember how he claimed the Tassie games gave Port a 'home ground' advantage because they kept licking us down there? I think we started to believe it.
Remember how he claimed the Tassie games gave Port a 'home ground' advantage because they kept licking us down there? I think we started to believe it.
Re: Bullied by Port yet again?
rodgerfox wrote:Geelong beat us up a fortnight ago.
Port have bullied us physically for about 6 years. It's been embarrassing to watch.
Hearing Roo sledge Lovett last week was heart warming. It showed that at least in some way, he was prepared to cross a line. It wasn't physical, but it had a hard edge to it. It was a line that many say he shouldn't have crossed.
Every article I read saying that, made me smile. When have we heard or read about a Saint doing something 'bad' on-field since Hamill and Baker?
This is something that we haven't had since mid 2004. Pretty much the same time that Hamill and Goose were cut down.
If we get bullied again by Port tonight, I would be comfortable in saying that we simply do not have the personnel to win a flag. Not due to lack of skill, experience, pace etc. - but due to toughness.
Lenny Hayes is tough. He tried to rip Barry Hall's head off and didn't hesitate to do so when he saw him coming at him.
Baker is as tough and ruthless as they come.
Kosi is hard phyisically, but not mentally.
Max is hard.
Watching Armo go at it in the pre-season last year and so far this year should embarass many at the club.
Dare I say that's it.
Tonight is the time.
A loss tonight would be a disgrace. The only worse would be if it was due to being scared of Port again.
f we win tonight i'll be hard too!
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bang!suss wrote:I'll get shot down for this but I think Williams is probably the best coach going around.
and yes its been raining on and off ALL day.
i cant wait for the game....stuff the rain, im pumped to be able to see the boys live and pull out a win over the power, because christ knows we are bloody due for one.
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You're spot on the money rodger! Port have intimidated us physically and psychologically since 1998 pretty much... We need to dish some back out if we're gonna have a chance.
Hayes and Bakes need to be the scrappers in the midfield. These guys have to be even MORE physical than they normally are due to the wet conditions. Armo can give them some relief.
Hayes and Bakes need to be the scrappers in the midfield. These guys have to be even MORE physical than they normally are due to the wet conditions. Armo can give them some relief.
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Can't fault your list of "toughies" there Rodger, but I'd also add Bally in there....one of the most courageous (too much for his own good) players I've ever seen pull on the red white & black.
And then of course there's Harves...never an overtly intimidating player, but never took a backward step when it came to the physical stuff.
And then of course there's Harves...never an overtly intimidating player, but never took a backward step when it came to the physical stuff.
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Yes they have had it over us no doubt but think the imbalance needs to take into account that they have not played us at the Dome for years..
At least this year we,ll have a crack at them on our own ground[where we have a similar advantage as they do at AAMI] in the run home.
Want to see the boys have a red hot crack and let the result take care of itself.
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At least this year we,ll have a crack at them on our own ground[where we have a similar advantage as they do at AAMI] in the run home.
Want to see the boys have a red hot crack and let the result take care of itself.
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If we're the force we're supposed to be this year, tonight should be a no-brainer! I've tipped us for a win. Without Gehrig (strangely enough) our pace quickens! We should have enough forward pressure tonight to get the points! Plus we're got dear ol' Bakes back to pick up some of the nasties
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yep hopefully weve learnt our lesson.
i'd like to see the teamates stick up 4 eachother, instead of letting some Port guy take a cheap shot to someone with whos disadvantaged in a way.
loved it how in one game G-train was sent to the other side of the ground just to knock Fevola. then was sent bak to full foward.
were the better side no doubt! if it rains it will only help us in our tough hard play.
i'd like to see the teamates stick up 4 eachother, instead of letting some Port guy take a cheap shot to someone with whos disadvantaged in a way.
loved it how in one game G-train was sent to the other side of the ground just to knock Fevola. then was sent bak to full foward.
were the better side no doubt! if it rains it will only help us in our tough hard play.
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This is crap and a cop out.saint patrick wrote:Yes they have had it over us no doubt but think the imbalance needs to take into account that they have not played us at the Dome for years..![]()
At least this year we,ll have a crack at them on our own ground[where we have a similar advantage as they do at AAMI] in the run home.
Want to see the boys have a red hot crack and let the result take care of itself.
If we are good enough we should have been able to beat them at their own dung heap and Tassie but we couldn't.
We need to understand why they dont perform in these games.
We seem to be able to do alright against Adelaide so the ground is not the reson. Its between the ears again.
Midfield clearances and clear winners are needed to make an effective forward line.
You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
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Well at least we were not bullied this match...that is not why we lost....
We had too many weak efforts by our top end.... Dal was terrible and bally I am afraid couold not realy get an effective disposal off.
X was delorable.......when is he going to learm...tacke around the hips.
Grammy got heaps of ball...but once again disposal was lacking....
Boys were reasonably hard at it....but geeze...poor disposal and hesitant play ruled.
We had too many weak efforts by our top end.... Dal was terrible and bally I am afraid couold not realy get an effective disposal off.
X was delorable.......when is he going to learm...tacke around the hips.
Grammy got heaps of ball...but once again disposal was lacking....
Boys were reasonably hard at it....but geeze...poor disposal and hesitant play ruled.
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We weren't bullied tonight? Hold on i could have sworn i saw Harvey nearly have his head taken off and then less than a minute the same happen to Lenny! And you know the only one to actually niggle back....yep a 20 yr old who has played what? 5 AFL games? DisgracefulsaintsRrising wrote:Well at least we were not bullied this match...that is not why we lost....
We had too many weak efforts by our top end.... Dal was terrible and bally I am afraid couold not realy get an effective disposal off.
X was delorable.......when is he going to learm...tacke around the hips.
Grammy got heaps of ball...but once again disposal was lacking....
Boys were reasonably hard at it....but geeze...poor disposal and hesitant play ruled.
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Buckets wrote:We weren't bullied tonight? Hold on i could have sworn i saw Harvey nearly have his head taken off and then less than a minute the same happen to Lenny! And you know the only one to actually niggle back....yep a 20 yr old who has played what? 5 AFL games? DisgracefulsaintsRrising wrote:Well at least we were not bullied this match...that is not why we lost....
We had too many weak efforts by our top end.... Dal was terrible and bally I am afraid couold not realy get an effective disposal off.
X was delorable.......when is he going to learm...tacke around the hips.
Grammy got heaps of ball...but once again disposal was lacking....
Boys were reasonably hard at it....but geeze...poor disposal and hesitant play ruled.![]()
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It had nothing to do with the result of the game...
We got to enough contests etc.....even if a few players like Dal were missing in action.
What really creamed us was our poor use of the ball. Even the normally precise BJ was poor with his kicks.
Rare was the sants player that could kick to advantage......and a handball toa player in space rare too..
This was not due to being "bullied"...
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super dooper wrote:Yep,saint edward wrote:Enrico_Misso wrote:Couldn't beat them in Tassie.
Dont you remember Motlop's S**T stab kick after the siren in heritage round of 06
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Ring any bells ...
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Ow wait, we actually beat Port!!!!
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