Its Official Round 5 ins and outs

midas_touch · Thu 17 Apr 2008 6:32pm

In: Armo, C Gardiner
Out: Fiora, Gehrig

Looks like the match committee made the hard call to drop Gehrig. Will be interesting to see how our forward line functions now with two key forwards, plus Charlie playing as a lead up player.

fonz_#15 · Post: # 550353Post **fonz_#15** » Thu 17 Apr 2008 6:33pm

not surprising, hopefully frase will kick a bag in the 2's and come back stronger next week

midas_touch · Thu 17 Apr 2008 6:34pm

fonz_#15 wrote:not surprising, hopefully frase will kick a bag in the 2's and come back stronger next week

Kinda hard to imagine Frase in a Casey guernsey imo.

saintsrus · Post: # 550356Post **saintsrus** » Thu 17 Apr 2008 6:35pm

I said in other thread one more week would probably be the go for Frase

I like the Inns though

busso mick · Post: # 550360Post **busso mick** » Thu 17 Apr 2008 6:42pm

Has Gehrig been dropped before at the Saints? It should open our forward line up and provide more scoring opportunities. I'm expecting a lot more goals this week.

saint66au · Post: # 550362Post **saint66au** » Thu 17 Apr 2008 6:47pm

ST KILDA
B: Maguire, Hudghton, Gram
HB: Goddard, S.Fisher, Gilbert
C: X.Clarke, Ball, Dempster
HF: Harvey, Riewoldt, Dal Santo
F: Milne, Koschitzke, Jones
FOLL: King, Hayes, Montagna
I/C: Blake, L.Fisher, C,Gardiner, Armitage
EMG: Birss, Rix, Gwilt
IN: C.Gardiner, Armitage
OUT: Gehrig, Fiora

ESSENDON
B: Nash, Michael, Fletcher,
HB: Slattery, Ryder, Reimers
C: Stanton, Watson, Dyson
HF: Pears, McPhee, Lovett
F: Laycock, Lloyd, Davey
FOLL: Hille, Houli, Winderlich
I/C: Monfries, Lovett-Murray, Ramanauskas, Welsh
EMG: Johns, Johnson, Peverill
IN: Lloyd, Monfries, Welsh
OUT: McVeigh (hamstring), Lonergan (hamstring), Peverill

Dan Warna · Post: # 550363Post **Dan Warna** » Thu 17 Apr 2008 6:48pm

Birss is gone?

I was always worried about his skills but his work ethic was definately there.

Saints Premiers 2008 · Thu 17 Apr 2008 6:50pm

time to play the game armo...

Saints Premiers 2008 · Thu 17 Apr 2008 6:52pm

ah f*** still no schnieder and the main man mg...

rexy · Post: # 550368Post **rexy** » Thu 17 Apr 2008 6:55pm

Still got Gram and Dempster in the wrong spots, other than that not bad selections IMO.

Ralphy · Post: # 550369Post **Ralphy** » Thu 17 Apr 2008 6:57pm

Good selections !

take this oppununity and make it count armo!

still no schneids, (think he will be back vs port week after )

same as gehrig after having a week off,

would think MG would be a week away

Saints Premiers 2008 · Thu 17 Apr 2008 6:58pm

rexy wrote:Still got Gram and Dempster in the wrong spots, other than that not bad selections IMO.

its just naming the team...everything changes come opening bounce

St Fidelius · Thu 17 Apr 2008 7:01pm

rexy wrote:Still got Gram and Dempster in the wrong spots, other than that not bad selections IMO.

agreed, Gram's not a backman, in fact Gram is lucky to be in the side by his performances in the back of late IMO.

Play him on the wing or Forward flank

saintspremiers · Thu 17 Apr 2008 7:02pm

predictable that we only made 2 changes - that's RL's motto I think.

Anyway, good ins....time Armo stands up and shows us he's a top 10 draft pick rather than a mistake. I think he'll make it this year....not sure though quite yet or in the 2nd half of the season.

Anyway else think there will be a late change?

I wouldn't be surprised if one of Chips, Harvs or X was out due to injury.

just my thoughts...

midas_touch · Thu 17 Apr 2008 7:04pm

saintspremiers wrote: Anyway else think there will be a late change?

I wouldn't be surprised if one of Chips, Harvs or X was out due to injury.

just my thoughts...

We've made a habit of making late changes in recent games, so I wouldn't be too surprised.

rexy · Post: # 550379Post **rexy** » Thu 17 Apr 2008 7:05pm

Saints Premiers 2008 wrote:
rexy wrote:Still got Gram and Dempster in the wrong spots, other than that not bad selections IMO.
its just naming the team...everything changes come opening bounce

Not judging by the last 4 weeks, why continue to play L Fisher and now Dempster up around the ball when they are proven backmen and Gramm down back where he is being shown up for his lack of ability overhead by smart coaches who drag his man back to the last line.

Whilst Gram was allowed to play high on a HBF and often loose it was fine to have him in the back 6 but now he is a recognised running player and will continue to be exposed unless we move him.

Saintschampions08 · Thu 17 Apr 2008 7:08pm

ralphysaints35 wrote:Good selections !

take this oppununity and make it count armo!

still no schneids, (think he will be back vs port week after )

same as gehrig after having a week off,

would think MG would be a week away

I think Gehrig was set for retirement, i think his form shown last year showed that he wasn't the '04 Gehrig, and he wasn't the player required for the AFL.

I think he got caught up in everything, decided to give it another jolt, and it's been shown he's no where near up to it anymore.

I may be wrong, but unless he seriously changes something theirs no way he makes the cut for any AFL team.

St Fidelius · Thu 17 Apr 2008 7:08pm

I would like to see Fergs get a chance at some stage soon

bigcarl · Post: # 550383Post **bigcarl** » Thu 17 Apr 2008 7:08pm

guess that makes blake second ruck.

Red · Post: # 550384Post **Red** » Thu 17 Apr 2008 7:09pm

Good to see Fraser out. He doesn't work hard enough for the side.

Saints Premiers 2008 · Thu 17 Apr 2008 7:11pm

bigcarl wrote:guess that makes blake second ruck.

big deal...king should slaughter both hille and nocock in the center and if blake can break even well good...

although whilst king is off we might see kosi ruck with charlie move to chf and leave roo all alone in the square...he could be in for a big night...too quick for mal...too good for ryder...and dustin fletcher would never enter a contest and would prefer to trip players...

bigcarl · Post: # 550390Post **bigcarl** » Thu 17 Apr 2008 7:13pm

Saints Premiers 2008 wrote:
bigcarl wrote:guess that makes blake second ruck.
big deal...king should slaughter both hille and nocock in the center and if blake can break even well good...

although whilst king is off we might see kosi ruck with charlie move to chf and leave roo all alone in the square...he could be in for a big night...too quick for mal...too good for ryder...and dustin fletcher would never enter a contest and would prefer to trip players...

i applaud blake as second ruck. he's been very effective there in the past in more successful teams than this

evertonfc · Post: # 550391Post **evertonfc** » Thu 17 Apr 2008 7:14pm

Are you guys serious?

Fair dinkum - not to make him a scapegoat, but when you're not AFL standard, you're not AFL standard.

What Ross Lyon sees in him is beyond me. I totally agreed with Garry Lyon's assessement of Blake after his spoiling attempt on Hawkins:

"I've never seen a player purposely try to avoid a spoil - not a contest, a spoil - but I have now."

I'm not sure you can carry slow, crap footballers in a team that's shooting for a finals berth in this day and age.

He can't ruck at all. All he may be able to do, god help us, is tag Hille.

The other swaps? I don't mind them.

St Fidelius · Thu 17 Apr 2008 7:14pm

Red wrote:Good to see Fraser out. He doesn't work hard enough for the side.

It would help if players kick better into the forward 50...

Far too many turn overs of late...

I would like to know just how many times we entered into our forward 50 compared to Geelong...

Our kicking has been woeful and that was found out against a good side last week.

bobmurray · Post: # 550393Post **bobmurray** » Thu 17 Apr 2008 7:15pm

Teams as per the AFL website

ST KILDA v ESSENDON

ST KILDA
B: Matt Maguire, Max Hudghton, Jason Gram
HB: Sam Gilbert, Sam Fisher, Brendon Goddard
C: Sean Dempster, Luke Ball, Xavier Clarke
HF: Nick Dal Santo, Nick Riewoldt, Robert Harvey
F: Clint Jones, Justin Koschitzke, Stephen Milne
Foll: Steven King, Lenny Hayes, Leigh Montagna
I/C: Charlie Gardiner, Leigh Fisher, Jason Blake, David Armitage
EMG: Shane Birss, Michael Rix, James Gwilt

In: Gardiner, Armitage
Out: Fraser Gehrig, Aaron Fiora

ESSENDON
B: Jay Nash, Mal Michael, Dustin Fletcher
HB: Henry Slattery, Patrick Ryder, Kyle Reimers
C: Brent Stanton, Jobe Watson, Ricky Dyson
HF: Tayte Pears, Adam McPhee, Andrew Lovett
F: Jason Laycock, Matthew Lloyd, Alwyn Davey
Foll: David Hille, Bachar Houli, Jason Winderlich
I/C: Angus Monfries, Nathan Lovett-Murray, Adam Ramanauskas, Andrew Welsh
EMG: Courtney Johns, Jason Johnson, Damien Peverill

In: Lloyd, Monfries, Welsh
Out: Sam Lonergan (hamstring), Mark McVeigh (hamstring), Damien Peveril