Nearest the pin - Geelong suspensions
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Nearest the pin - Geelong suspensions
Taylor or was it West on X. Deliberately took out a player who wasn't watching him and wasn't involved in play. Had to be worse than the Baker Farmer incident which ended up being seven weeks
Mooney with his trip of Montagna. Worse than Kosi's on Licuria a few years back which got two weeks
Gamble's punch to Dal Santo's jaw. Much harder than Gehrig's tap to the stomach of one of the Clokes. Did Fraser get two weeks for that?
Adding them all up, I'll say it will come to a total of zero weeks.
Mooney with his trip of Montagna. Worse than Kosi's on Licuria a few years back which got two weeks
Gamble's punch to Dal Santo's jaw. Much harder than Gehrig's tap to the stomach of one of the Clokes. Did Fraser get two weeks for that?
Adding them all up, I'll say it will come to a total of zero weeks.
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If there aren't three changes to Geelong this week then the system will destroy the game.
It will become too easy just to take players out (ala West on Clarke) to reduce the efficiency of the rotations.
If there aren't three geelong outs this week, just watch the snippers come out and take out the man for the sake of a win. That's not footy anymore. That's just thuggery and the biggest thugs win. Hardly a spectacle. I can watch that crap outside the local pub if I'm interested.
It will become too easy just to take players out (ala West on Clarke) to reduce the efficiency of the rotations.
If there aren't three geelong outs this week, just watch the snippers come out and take out the man for the sake of a win. That's not footy anymore. That's just thuggery and the biggest thugs win. Hardly a spectacle. I can watch that crap outside the local pub if I'm interested.
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There are few surer things in football.....
Seriously, I reckon Mooney will get one week for the trip, and the guy who hit Dal will be cited but get no suspension because of prior good record or whatever. West will get 2-3 weeks and win on appeal because X will be deemed to be at fault for not being sufficiently aware.
If West had pulled out a machine gun and shot X, there would presumably have been no case to answer because X should have had more awareness of what was going on around him.
The entire TV commentary team this arvo focused solely on how far away the ball was. The fact that it was a deliberate (or, at least, reckless) elbow to the head of a player who didn't have the ball apparently didn't enter into it.
Seriously, I reckon Mooney will get one week for the trip, and the guy who hit Dal will be cited but get no suspension because of prior good record or whatever. West will get 2-3 weeks and win on appeal because X will be deemed to be at fault for not being sufficiently aware.
If West had pulled out a machine gun and shot X, there would presumably have been no case to answer because X should have had more awareness of what was going on around him.
The entire TV commentary team this arvo focused solely on how far away the ball was. The fact that it was a deliberate (or, at least, reckless) elbow to the head of a player who didn't have the ball apparently didn't enter into it.
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Spot on.meher baba wrote:There are few surer things in football.....
Seriously, I reckon Mooney will get one week for the trip, and the guy who hit Dal will be cited but get no suspension because of prior good record or whatever. West will get 2-3 weeks and win on appeal because X will be deemed to be at fault for not being sufficiently aware.
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The umpire was right there for the X hit. He made no call at all. I didn't see what happened...was it caught on camera?meher baba wrote:There are few surer things in football.....
Seriously, I reckon Mooney will get one week for the trip, and the guy who hit Dal will be cited but get no suspension because of prior good record or whatever. West will get 2-3 weeks and win on appeal because X will be deemed to be at fault for not being sufficiently aware.
If West had pulled out a machine gun and shot X, there would presumably have been no case to answer because X should have had more awareness of what was going on around him.
The entire TV commentary team this arvo focused solely on how far away the ball was. The fact that it was a deliberate (or, at least, reckless) elbow to the head of a player who didn't have the ball apparently didn't enter into it.
there was another incident as well...kossi tummy taped a girlong mongrel only to get a harder one back whilst he was lying on the ground..
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Replayed several times on TV. If this was Bakes giving this, it would be 7 weeks for sure. But its Geelong so expect = 0 weeksLife Long Saint wrote:The umpire was right there for the X hit. He made no call at all. I didn't see what happened...was it caught on camera?meher baba wrote:There are few surer things in football.....
Seriously, I reckon Mooney will get one week for the trip, and the guy who hit Dal will be cited but get no suspension because of prior good record or whatever. West will get 2-3 weeks and win on appeal because X will be deemed to be at fault for not being sufficiently aware.
If West had pulled out a machine gun and shot X, there would presumably have been no case to answer because X should have had more awareness of what was going on around him.
The entire TV commentary team this arvo focused solely on how far away the ball was. The fact that it was a deliberate (or, at least, reckless) elbow to the head of a player who didn't have the ball apparently didn't enter into it.
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Re: Nearest the pin - Geelong suspensions
my les foote wrote:Taylor or was it West on X. Deliberately took out a player who wasn't watching him and wasn't involved in play. Had to be worse than the Baker Farmer incident which ended up being seven weeks - deemed in play no case to answer for
Mooney with his trip of Montagna. Worse than Kosi's on Licuria a few years back which got two weeks - deemed done just on instinct and with mooney turn around from being a naughty player to good boy now no case to answer
Gamble's punch to Dal Santo's jaw. Much harder than Gehrig's tap to the stomach of one of the Clokes. Did Fraser get two weeks for that? - not an integral part of the geelong team and no real history to his name given a one week smack on the wrist
Adding them all up, I'll say it will come to a total of zero weeks.
stinger wrote:there was another incident as well...kossi tummy taped a girlong mongrel only to get a harder one back whilst he was lying on the ground.. - Kosi will be reprimanded and with his track record will get a 2 week cause we are about to get Baker back allowance
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It was shocking, the whole reason for a third umpire is to spot these infringements. Regardless of whether it is or isn't a reportable offence it definetely warranted a free kick as it was a sheppard more than 10m from the ball.ralphysaints35 wrote:the hit on X that umpire NUMBER 21, needs to f*** off, he is a shame to the game all he did was walk off, when x was down for all he knew he could have been dead, should have heard the chant 'YOU ARE A WANKER'
Further is it just me or do Geelong players have an extraordinarilly long time to dispose of the ball when tackled?? Stokes in the middle of the ground (granted after we meekly turned over the ball) turned around 100 times before handballing.
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True he got 4 and weighting for a poor record increased it to 7.matrixcutter wrote:well for starters....baker didnt get seven weeks for his hit on farmer Les Foote.
I disagree that what he did deserved 4 in the first place, but you are 100% correct the tribunal did not issue Baker with a 7 match ban for that incident.
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Did anyone see the incident in the third quarter with play on the outer wing and I think it was Gilbert running 10 metres behind Gamble on the other wing. Gamble stopped, turned and coathangered Gilbert, putting him on the ground.
The emergency umpire went out to Gamble about half a minute later and looked at his number, but I haven't seen if he actually reported him.
Interested if anyone else saw it as it was about 80 metres off the ball.
Also, after the half time siren, as the players were walking off the ground, Mooney was walking behind Gilbert and hit him in the back of the head. It wasn't a hard hit, but was harder than some of these tummy taps they're getting suspended for these days (unless you play for Sydney)
The emergency umpire went out to Gamble about half a minute later and looked at his number, but I haven't seen if he actually reported him.
Interested if anyone else saw it as it was about 80 metres off the ball.
Also, after the half time siren, as the players were walking off the ground, Mooney was walking behind Gilbert and hit him in the back of the head. It wasn't a hard hit, but was harder than some of these tummy taps they're getting suspended for these days (unless you play for Sydney)
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I'm with you, free kicks on the day would have been more satisfying than seeing somebody else play Geelong minus these players.plugger66 wrote:Mooney one week but repremand if pleads guilty. West 2 weeks one if pleads guilty. Same for Gamble. That is how i see it but who knows and in my case I dont care because we dont play them next week.
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that was Dal he coathangered SainterX1 and he was reported by the said emergencySainterX1 wrote:Did anyone see the incident in the third quarter with play on the outer wing and I think it was Gilbert running 10 metres behind Gamble on the other wing. Gamble stopped, turned and coathangered Gilbert, putting him on the ground.
The emergency umpire went out to Gamble about half a minute later and looked at his number, but I haven't seen if he actually reported him.
Interested if anyone else saw it as it was about 80 metres off the ball.
Also, after the half time siren, as the players were walking off the ground, Mooney was walking behind Gilbert and hit him in the back of the head. It wasn't a hard hit, but was harder than some of these tummy taps they're getting suspended for these days (unless you play for Sydney)
someone else said Matty M was kicked by the moonster as well.
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Dal was punched by Gamble in the second quarter, so unless there was another incident between those 2 in the third I think you have got the wrong one SaintBrat.saintbrat wrote:that was Dal he coathangered SainterX1 and he was reported by the said emergencySainterX1 wrote:Did anyone see the incident in the third quarter with play on the outer wing and I think it was Gilbert running 10 metres behind Gamble on the other wing. Gamble stopped, turned and coathangered Gilbert, putting him on the ground.
The emergency umpire went out to Gamble about half a minute later and looked at his number, but I haven't seen if he actually reported him.
Interested if anyone else saw it as it was about 80 metres off the ball.
Also, after the half time siren, as the players were walking off the ground, Mooney was walking behind Gilbert and hit him in the back of the head. It wasn't a hard hit, but was harder than some of these tummy taps they're getting suspended for these days (unless you play for Sydney)
someone else said Matty M was kicked by the moonster as well.
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I was going on the incident shown on media outlets yesterday-
and from what I saw from where I sat-
there may well have been another.
and from what I saw from where I sat-
there may well have been another.
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Actually he did get seven weeks. If Farmer had not run into him, he would not have missed a match.matrixcutter wrote:well for starters....baker didnt get seven weeks for his hit on farmer Les Foote.
Somehow the AFL contrived to give him more activation points (325 or 350) for stopping and allowing someone to collide with him than any incident since that, including a couple of very nasty head high hits.
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Gambles punch on Dal was definitely in the second qtr -about 6 minutes before half time - I just checked it on the replay.saintbrat wrote:I was going on the incident shown on media outlets yesterday-
and from what I saw from where I sat-
there may well have been another.
As for Mooney, if attempted strikes were counted for anybody other than Baks he would have at least half a dozen charges from Saturday's game to answer.
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This was a previous post of mine on a dead-end thread:SainterX1 wrote:Did anyone see the incident in the third quarter with play on the outer wing and I think it was Gilbert running 10 metres behind Gamble on the other wing. Gamble stopped, turned and coathangered Gilbert, putting him on the ground.
The emergency umpire went out to Gamble about half a minute later and looked at his number, but I haven't seen if he actually reported him.
Interested if anyone else saw it as it was about 80 metres off the ball.
Also, after the half time siren, as the players were walking off the ground, Mooney was walking behind Gilbert and hit him in the back of the head. It wasn't a hard hit, but was harder than some of these tummy taps they're getting suspended for these days (unless you play for Sydney)
On that last point -- I saw Mooney hit Gilbo in the head too, followed immediately by kicking him in the leg. More childish than viscious, but I expected it would be followed up by replays, slo-mo analysis, character analysis, an AFL report etc. Not a peep.
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On the other hand, this from another lost thread:
I was watching X as he jogged along behind the play. (He might have been hurt a little in the previous passage.) He didn't see the guy coming -- just like Kosi! I reckon the Geelong player was as surprised as anyone that he'd had that much impact. It looked like a run of the mill minor bump to me, maybe with an unfortunate accidental impact, like a head clash -- like Kosi. X's total lack of awareness I'm afraid.
Of course there was no evience whatsoever that Baker's "hit" on Farmer was any more sinister.
I was watching X as he jogged along behind the play. (He might have been hurt a little in the previous passage.) He didn't see the guy coming -- just like Kosi! I reckon the Geelong player was as surprised as anyone that he'd had that much impact. It looked like a run of the mill minor bump to me, maybe with an unfortunate accidental impact, like a head clash -- like Kosi. X's total lack of awareness I'm afraid.
Of course there was no evience whatsoever that Baker's "hit" on Farmer was any more sinister.