should we take game versus cats seriously?
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should we take game versus cats seriously?
... and play our best available team on saturday?
or should we wait until we meet again in round 4 and hit them with everything then?
i'm in two minds.
on the one hand i'd like us to win everything we're in and an early victory over last year's premiers would sound a warning that we're coming for them.
plus the guys need some match conditioning.
on the other, it is only the NAB Cup and we don't want injuries. You'd like us at full strength for Round 1. the season proper is a marathon etc, etc.
you can mount good arguments for either approach.
what do you guys think?
or should we wait until we meet again in round 4 and hit them with everything then?
i'm in two minds.
on the one hand i'd like us to win everything we're in and an early victory over last year's premiers would sound a warning that we're coming for them.
plus the guys need some match conditioning.
on the other, it is only the NAB Cup and we don't want injuries. You'd like us at full strength for Round 1. the season proper is a marathon etc, etc.
you can mount good arguments for either approach.
what do you guys think?
Second that. Take ot seriously within reason. It's pretty simple, play players that are 100% ready and fit and don't play those who aren't. So, I'd expect it to be a similiar team as against Richmond xcept with 1 or 2 more senior players back.saint edward wrote:i think we should take every game seriosuly but with the same team as the tiges game.
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I trust the coaching staff and believe that we will go in to next week's game with the same attitude, player the best players available and fully fit and go in 100%, it will be a real indicator of whether or not our depth is the real deal this year...
A lot of this game will come down to coaching and psychological preparation, we can not allow our players to get shell shocked like Melbourne did, I want every player going out there thinking they are a great chance to bring it home...
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amen to that !!Armoooo wrote:I trust the coaching staff and believe that we will go in to next week's game with the same attitude, player the best players available and fully fit and go in 100%, it will be a real indicator of whether or not our depth is the real deal this year...
A lot of this game will come down to coaching and psychological preparation, we can not allow our players to get shell shocked like Melbourne did, I want every player going out there thinking they are a great chance to bring it home...
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Re: should we take game versus cats seriously?
As they will only have about 30 players available on Saturday they have no choice but to play their best side. If we win that one expect a heap of changes the following week including resting plenty of midfielders.bigcarl wrote:... and play our best available team on saturday?
or should we wait until we meet again in round 4 and hit them with everything then?
i'm in two minds.
on the one hand i'd like us to win everything we're in and an early victory over last year's premiers would sound a warning that we're coming for them.
plus the guys need some match conditioning.
on the other, it is only the NAB Cup and we don't want injuries. You'd like us at full strength for Round 1. the season proper is a marathon etc, etc.
you can mount good arguments for either approach.
what do you guys think?
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Re: should we take game versus cats seriously?
Ask yourself this.....if the Saints don't take the Cats seriously and get whipped will you be pissed off?bigcarl wrote:... and play our best available team on saturday?
or should we wait until we meet again in round 4 and hit them with everything then?
i'm in two minds.
on the one hand i'd like us to win everything we're in and an early victory over last year's premiers would sound a warning that we're coming for them.
plus the guys need some match conditioning.
on the other, it is only the NAB Cup and we don't want injuries. You'd like us at full strength for Round 1. the season proper is a marathon etc, etc.
you can mount good arguments for either approach.
what do you guys think?
If you answered yes or no, then why did you bother asking the question?
If you don't know why you asked the question then you need help!
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Re: should we take game versus cats seriously?
who'll have only 30 available? us or them?plugger66 wrote:As they will only have about 30 players available on Saturday they have no choice but to play their best side. If we win that one expect a heap of changes the following week including resting plenty of midfielders.
i thought we were just resting players with a bit of a niggle and if it were round 1 of the real season most would play
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Take it seriously - but only sort of.
Happy if a dozen of our best are "rested".
Keep playing the kids.
They did well.
And it is a good opportunity for them to represent the club at senior level.
And a good opportunity for us to see what they are capable of.
But give some of the senior players a rest.
For Chr1st sake - give Harve's a rest - I think after 20 seasons we now know he can play a bit.
Don't risk any players < 100% fit.
Experiment a bit.
Have a dip.
But if we lose - who cares ?
History shows that the results of these games (with the odd exception like the 20+ goal thrashing of Shimma's North Melb) count for nothing in the big picture.
Happy if a dozen of our best are "rested".
Keep playing the kids.
They did well.
And it is a good opportunity for them to represent the club at senior level.
And a good opportunity for us to see what they are capable of.
But give some of the senior players a rest.
For Chr1st sake - give Harve's a rest - I think after 20 seasons we now know he can play a bit.
Don't risk any players < 100% fit.
Experiment a bit.
Have a dip.
But if we lose - who cares ?
History shows that the results of these games (with the odd exception like the 20+ goal thrashing of Shimma's North Melb) count for nothing in the big picture.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
Yeah sums it up for me....Enrico_Misso wrote:Take it seriously - but only sort of.
Happy if a dozen of our best are "rested".
Keep playing the kids.
They did well.
And it is a good opportunity for them to represent the club at senior level.
And a good opportunity for us to see what they are capable of.
But give some of the senior players a rest.
For Chr1st sake - give Harve's a rest - I think after 20 seasons we now know he can play a bit.
Don't risk any players < 100% fit.
Experiment a bit.
Have a dip.
But if we lose - who cares ?
History shows that the results of these games (with the odd exception like the 20+ goal thrashing of Shimma's North Melb) count for nothing in the big picture.
Looks like just Gram and Gilbo back for sure..maybe Roo and maybe Fish...so with Lenny/Bally still missing its a great time to give he likes of Armo, X and even Eddy quality midfield time agaisnt the benchmark of the comp..without 4 points at stake
It appears that Corey and Enright will return for them..so unless they rest blokes from last week they will field a pretty strong side.
So..throw Geary or Gilbert onto Steve Johnson...what have we got to lose? put Rix on Looney Mooney...will he handy to know what he can do if Goose doesnt come up straight away. Let Jones go head to head with Wojinski (sp)
Personally Im rapt we are playing Geelong rather than Melbourne, There are no real expectations, we will start at longish odds and unless we lose by 100 points theres no real damage done with a defeat
God..if we somehow pulled off a win up there though with a bunch of regulars out....the membership tent would need reinforcing the following Fri night at the Dome
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I'm gonna pretty much echo everything that everyone else has said:
Keep everyone who has even a slight niggle out, even rest some of the more senior players;
Include some of the senior players who need a bit of game time under their belt.
Other than that, play all these young kids!
I would love to see how our developing/depth players look against the team that, arguably, will be setting the standard this year.
If a team similar to the one we fielded against the Tigers can (big if!) beat Geelong, or even provide a close or decent contest I would be absoloutley over the moon.
Lastly, the result doesnt matter, it would be incredibly exciting to see this young team beat or be compeditive against Geelong, but if we lose, even if we do lose, by 10 points or by 100 points. If some of these kids get down on themselves from getting thrashed by last years premiers: I'm sorry, but you dont have the mental toughness to play afl![Confused :?](./images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
Keep everyone who has even a slight niggle out, even rest some of the more senior players;
Include some of the senior players who need a bit of game time under their belt.
Other than that, play all these young kids!
I would love to see how our developing/depth players look against the team that, arguably, will be setting the standard this year.
If a team similar to the one we fielded against the Tigers can (big if!) beat Geelong, or even provide a close or decent contest I would be absoloutley over the moon.
Lastly, the result doesnt matter, it would be incredibly exciting to see this young team beat or be compeditive against Geelong, but if we lose, even if we do lose, by 10 points or by 100 points. If some of these kids get down on themselves from getting thrashed by last years premiers: I'm sorry, but you dont have the mental toughness to play afl
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Re: should we take game versus cats seriously?
We will only have about 30 available. Gram and Gilbert should be right plus the 27 who were names on Friday plus maybe one or two others so from that we cannot make to many changes from last weeks side. Chivers probably out and then either Steven, Rix or Howard IMO.bigcarl wrote:who'll have only 30 available? us or them?plugger66 wrote:As they will only have about 30 players available on Saturday they have no choice but to play their best side. If we win that one expect a heap of changes the following week including resting plenty of midfielders.
i thought we were just resting players with a bit of a niggle and if it were round 1 of the real season most would play
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Can't say I'm really worried about the W or L element of this game, I agree with those looking at it as an opportunity for some of the kids to benchmark themselves.
Play to win, and focus on making it the Saints game that controls the scoreboard rather than the Cats game... without Lenny and Ball, the Saints likely struggle to match the Clearance power of the Cats (esp. if Corey is back), and that's going to make it a real struggle to win (certainly won't get away with wasting as many ops as we did against the Tigers), but if an Armo or a Geary or an Allen can beat (or even break even with) a quality opponent heads up then they can start making a case for getting some seniors time with 4 points on the line... otherwise, the experience will tell them where they need to be, so this game is all about young guys just outside the 22 for me.
Be very interesting to see how C Gardiner plays against his old side... he's been a pleasant surprise for me in both the Tiges game and the intrasquad... cleaner hands and a bit harder at the ball and he'd be in, I'm very happy with his disposal, speed and presentation.
Play to win, and focus on making it the Saints game that controls the scoreboard rather than the Cats game... without Lenny and Ball, the Saints likely struggle to match the Clearance power of the Cats (esp. if Corey is back), and that's going to make it a real struggle to win (certainly won't get away with wasting as many ops as we did against the Tigers), but if an Armo or a Geary or an Allen can beat (or even break even with) a quality opponent heads up then they can start making a case for getting some seniors time with 4 points on the line... otherwise, the experience will tell them where they need to be, so this game is all about young guys just outside the 22 for me.
Be very interesting to see how C Gardiner plays against his old side... he's been a pleasant surprise for me in both the Tiges game and the intrasquad... cleaner hands and a bit harder at the ball and he'd be in, I'm very happy with his disposal, speed and presentation.
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