Clayton Collard?
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
- SaintWodonga
- Club Player
- Posts: 1868
- Joined: Wed 04 Jul 2007 12:01am
- Location: Wodonga
- Contact:
Clayton Collard?
Anyone know why he was given the chop from Freo so quickly?
I remember a few posters here hoping we would draft him. He's very quck, but does he have a bad attitude?
Would he be worth a gamble in PSD?
I'd like to know more about him and why he was chopped before I make a call one way or the othe ron him.
I remember a few posters here hoping we would draft him. He's very quck, but does he have a bad attitude?
Would he be worth a gamble in PSD?
I'd like to know more about him and why he was chopped before I make a call one way or the othe ron him.
- Saints94
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3443
- Joined: Wed 31 Jan 2007 10:47am
- Location: NSW
- Has thanked: 5 times
- Been thanked: 1 time
- Contact:
Clayton Collard info
Collard was one of the most exciting juniors in the 2006 NAB AFL Draft and was surprisingly still available when the Dockers had their first selection at No.31. Originally from South Fremantle, Collard represented his state at junior level in 2004 (under-16s), as well as 2005-06 (under-18). Unlike most 2006 draftees, Collard played senior football in his state last season and booted 15 goals in his nine senior WAFL games including a bag of five on debut in Round 6. As a junior he performed best as a floating half-forward who won the ball through the midfield and pushed forward to be a scoreboard threat.
182cm
90kg
born: 4th december 1988
Collard was one of the most exciting juniors in the 2006 NAB AFL Draft and was surprisingly still available when the Dockers had their first selection at No.31. Originally from South Fremantle, Collard represented his state at junior level in 2004 (under-16s), as well as 2005-06 (under-18). Unlike most 2006 draftees, Collard played senior football in his state last season and booted 15 goals in his nine senior WAFL games including a bag of five on debut in Round 6. As a junior he performed best as a floating half-forward who won the ball through the midfield and pushed forward to be a scoreboard threat.
182cm
90kg
born: 4th december 1988
- Armoooo
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 7281
- Joined: Sun 26 Nov 2006 2:28pm
- Location: The Great South East
- Contact:
I would like us to have a go with him unless he does have a serious attitude problem or something like that, he has a lot of potential and I was expecting pretty big things from him but Freo probably delisted him for a reason...
If there's no better option he can always be a rookie.
If there's no better option he can always be a rookie.
ROBERT HARVEY A.K.A The Great Man, Banger, Harves, Ol' Man River...
384 games, 4 B&F's, 3 EJ Whitten Medals, St.Kilda Captain, 2 Time Brownlow Medalist, 8 Time All Australian, 2nd Highest Brownlow votes poller.... The greatest of ALL TIME!!
384 games, 4 B&F's, 3 EJ Whitten Medals, St.Kilda Captain, 2 Time Brownlow Medalist, 8 Time All Australian, 2nd Highest Brownlow votes poller.... The greatest of ALL TIME!!
- SaintWodonga
- Club Player
- Posts: 1868
- Joined: Wed 04 Jul 2007 12:01am
- Location: Wodonga
- Contact:
Reading the above, you'd have a crack wouldn't you? But reading between the lines something is missing for Freo to chop him.... Maybe less risk than Sampi?homework wrote:Clayton Collard info
Collard was one of the most exciting juniors in the 2006 NAB AFL Draft and was surprisingly still available when the Dockers had their first selection at No.31. Originally from South Fremantle, Collard represented his state at junior level in 2004 (under-16s), as well as 2005-06 (under-18). Unlike most 2006 draftees, Collard played senior football in his state last season and booted 15 goals in his nine senior WAFL games including a bag of five on debut in Round 6. As a junior he performed best as a floating half-forward who won the ball through the midfield and pushed forward to be a scoreboard threat.
182cm
90kg
born: 4th december 1988
- Oh When the Saints
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5621
- Joined: Wed 29 Mar 2006 4:25pm
- Location: QLD
- Contact:
Apparently after his debut (against the Saints in Round 8), he got really cocky and over-confident, and just believed he had it made.
Clearly Harvey wanted to send the message out by sacking him.
From what I've read, I don't believe there are other problems, just a poor attitude.
If Lyon was confident that he could straighten it out, then IMO Collard could be a good footballer for us.
Clearly Harvey wanted to send the message out by sacking him.
From what I've read, I don't believe there are other problems, just a poor attitude.
If Lyon was confident that he could straighten it out, then IMO Collard could be a good footballer for us.
They should only play AFL games now when it's raining. Slow games of footy are so much better to watch.
- Armoooo
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 7281
- Joined: Sun 26 Nov 2006 2:28pm
- Location: The Great South East
- Contact:
A 19 year old with his reputation... I'd be very surprised if he was availble at pick 9 in the PSD... or do we have pick 8 ![Confused :?](./images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
![Confused :?](./images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
ROBERT HARVEY A.K.A The Great Man, Banger, Harves, Ol' Man River...
384 games, 4 B&F's, 3 EJ Whitten Medals, St.Kilda Captain, 2 Time Brownlow Medalist, 8 Time All Australian, 2nd Highest Brownlow votes poller.... The greatest of ALL TIME!!
384 games, 4 B&F's, 3 EJ Whitten Medals, St.Kilda Captain, 2 Time Brownlow Medalist, 8 Time All Australian, 2nd Highest Brownlow votes poller.... The greatest of ALL TIME!!
id be very surprised if Fremantle dont repick him with one of their latter picks in the draft, or at the least with their PSD pickArmoooo wrote:A 19 year old with his reputation... I'd be very surprised if he was availble at pick 9 in the PSD... or do we have pick 8
I believe Collard is training with them at the moment?
- Armoooo
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 7281
- Joined: Sun 26 Nov 2006 2:28pm
- Location: The Great South East
- Contact:
Is he able to go in the national draft?SaintBot wrote:id be very surprised if Fremantle dont repick him with one of their latter picks in the draft, or at the least with their PSD pickArmoooo wrote:A 19 year old with his reputation... I'd be very surprised if he was availble at pick 9 in the PSD... or do we have pick 8
I believe Collard is training with them at the moment?
if so I wouldn't mind us taking him with pick 42 or whatever we have, if not then definately 58.
ROBERT HARVEY A.K.A The Great Man, Banger, Harves, Ol' Man River...
384 games, 4 B&F's, 3 EJ Whitten Medals, St.Kilda Captain, 2 Time Brownlow Medalist, 8 Time All Australian, 2nd Highest Brownlow votes poller.... The greatest of ALL TIME!!
384 games, 4 B&F's, 3 EJ Whitten Medals, St.Kilda Captain, 2 Time Brownlow Medalist, 8 Time All Australian, 2nd Highest Brownlow votes poller.... The greatest of ALL TIME!!
- SaintWodonga
- Club Player
- Posts: 1868
- Joined: Wed 04 Jul 2007 12:01am
- Location: Wodonga
- Contact:
- Brian Collis
- Club Player
- Posts: 1353
- Joined: Thu 06 May 2004 2:47pm
- Location: Light her up babe
After getting 1 kick for the match?Oh When the Saints wrote:Apparently after his debut (against the Saints in Round 8), he got really cocky and over-confident, and just believed he had it made.
Clearly Harvey wanted to send the message out by sacking him.
From what I've read, I don't believe there are other problems, just a poor attitude.
If Lyon was confident that he could straighten it out, then IMO Collard could be a good footballer for us.
- Saints Premiers 2008
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4335
- Joined: Thu 27 Oct 2005 11:21pm
- Location: Brisbane
a football team is not going to BRING him into the side due to the colour of skin or the nature of the themed roundhomework wrote:He didn't play that well in the W.A.F.L I think freo brang him in the side because of aboriginal round (9)
to think that is just laughable
"It's a work in progress," Lyon said.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1906
- Joined: Fri 19 Mar 2004 5:47pm
- Has thanked: 4 times
- Been thanked: 17 times
But it was a goal... so good efficiency rating..Brian Collis wrote:After getting 1 kick for the match?Oh When the Saints wrote:Apparently after his debut (against the Saints in Round 8), he got really cocky and over-confident, and just believed he had it made.
Clearly Harvey wanted to send the message out by sacking him.
From what I've read, I don't believe there are other problems, just a poor attitude.
If Lyon was confident that he could straighten it out, then IMO Collard could be a good footballer for us.
![Cool 8-)](./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif)
The Saints are coming!
Well thats what the Bulldogs did it in Round 9 bringing in Cam Faulkner because it was Aboriginal RoundSaints Premiers 2006 wrote:a football team is not going to BRING him into the side due to the colour of skin or the nature of the themed roundhomework wrote:He didn't play that well in the W.A.F.L I think freo brang him in the side because of aboriginal round (9)
to think that is just laughable
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
- Oh When the Saints
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5621
- Joined: Wed 29 Mar 2006 4:25pm
- Location: QLD
- Contact:
ATTITUDE = LESS RISK THAN alcohol issues, drug issues, homesickness issues, injury issues, mental illness issues, violence issues etc.Eastern wrote:It sounds like Collard has some pretty big attitude issues that need to be addressed:
ATTITUDE = RISK = NO !!
They should only play AFL games now when it's raining. Slow games of footy are so much better to watch.
- Eastern
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 14357
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 1:46pm
- Location: 3132
- Been thanked: 1 time
But, if ATTITUDE includes any of these it spells trouble. I don't know either way !!Oh When the Saints wrote:ATTITUDE = LESS RISK THAN alcohol issues, drug issues, homesickness issues, injury issues, mental illness issues, violence issues etc.Eastern wrote:It sounds like Collard has some pretty big attitude issues that need to be addressed:
ATTITUDE = RISK = NO !!
- Armoooo
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 7281
- Joined: Sun 26 Nov 2006 2:28pm
- Location: The Great South East
- Contact:
S.Johnson and G.Ablett had attitude issues before this season.
ROBERT HARVEY A.K.A The Great Man, Banger, Harves, Ol' Man River...
384 games, 4 B&F's, 3 EJ Whitten Medals, St.Kilda Captain, 2 Time Brownlow Medalist, 8 Time All Australian, 2nd Highest Brownlow votes poller.... The greatest of ALL TIME!!
384 games, 4 B&F's, 3 EJ Whitten Medals, St.Kilda Captain, 2 Time Brownlow Medalist, 8 Time All Australian, 2nd Highest Brownlow votes poller.... The greatest of ALL TIME!!
- Armoooo
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 7281
- Joined: Sun 26 Nov 2006 2:28pm
- Location: The Great South East
- Contact:
No risk = no return...Eastern wrote:For every Johnson or Ablett there is a Beetham !!Armoooo wrote:S.Johnson and G.Ablett had attitude issues before this season.
ROBERT HARVEY A.K.A The Great Man, Banger, Harves, Ol' Man River...
384 games, 4 B&F's, 3 EJ Whitten Medals, St.Kilda Captain, 2 Time Brownlow Medalist, 8 Time All Australian, 2nd Highest Brownlow votes poller.... The greatest of ALL TIME!!
384 games, 4 B&F's, 3 EJ Whitten Medals, St.Kilda Captain, 2 Time Brownlow Medalist, 8 Time All Australian, 2nd Highest Brownlow votes poller.... The greatest of ALL TIME!!
- saintsRrising
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 30089
- Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 711 times
- Been thanked: 1233 times
This years draft offers a lot of talented, but flawed players that can be recycled...
Indeed this year in particular presents an unusual quantity of such players.
Some will be given second chances.....Collard I expect to be one of them.
Some may even be given third chances....ie maybe Watts.
Such players needed to be treated with caution and obtained at a cheap price.
So far with Schneider, King, Dempster and C Gardiner we have done extremely well in terms of quality gained for the price paid.
As there are so many rejected players...as long as you are not fixated on any one particular player their should be some value on offer....but no need to waste either of our first two picks which should be kept for kids but yes pick 58 on (and the PSD) could be used for such a player.
Collard at 58......would bea good pick up provided RL believes he can get on top of his attitude problems.
However I think Ross has clearly laid his cards on the table that there is no room at the Saints for ANY player that is not prepared to work his guts out.
Players with a poor work ethic and/or workrate have featured strongly in the clean out....and in my view players with such traits would not be likely to feature in RL's pick ups.
We do know that Ross is keen to have another mid or two.....and that he would like someone if possible that is ready to play now. We know that he entertained getting Cousins....
Indeed this year in particular presents an unusual quantity of such players.
Some will be given second chances.....Collard I expect to be one of them.
Some may even be given third chances....ie maybe Watts.
Such players needed to be treated with caution and obtained at a cheap price.
So far with Schneider, King, Dempster and C Gardiner we have done extremely well in terms of quality gained for the price paid.
As there are so many rejected players...as long as you are not fixated on any one particular player their should be some value on offer....but no need to waste either of our first two picks which should be kept for kids but yes pick 58 on (and the PSD) could be used for such a player.
Collard at 58......would bea good pick up provided RL believes he can get on top of his attitude problems.
However I think Ross has clearly laid his cards on the table that there is no room at the Saints for ANY player that is not prepared to work his guts out.
Players with a poor work ethic and/or workrate have featured strongly in the clean out....and in my view players with such traits would not be likely to feature in RL's pick ups.
We do know that Ross is keen to have another mid or two.....and that he would like someone if possible that is ready to play now. We know that he entertained getting Cousins....
Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....