AFL announces Collingwood to get a one game head start

[Enrico_Misso]

Collingwood are a game ahead of us before a ball is even bounced.

Why ?
The corrupt AFL believe that the draw should be about maximising crowds.
So they put fairness in second place.
They have agreed that Collingwood will get 14 games at the G each year and 4 at Docklands = 18 in Melbourne.
And this means Collingwood can only travel 4 times a year - MAXIMUM.

Now the mathematics for melbourne clubs is that the average number of interstate trips = 4.4 = 11 away games x 6 interstate clubs / 15 other teams. (This excludes Melb teams that sell their home games).
So the teams not involved in the AFL's cosy little locked in blockbuster arrangements will have to travel more often.
And the stats show that ALL teams have a lower win rate outside of their home state.

So whilst all games are winnable Collingwood is much more likely to win two games at home whilst we make our 5th and 6th interstate trips.

So they effectively have a win on the board already.

Perhaps the AFL could explain how this constitutes a fair draw ?
Perhaps someone/anyone/even one of those Collingwood trolls can make a pathetic attempt to justify this ?

[Animal Enclosure]

I'm sure they'd bring out the old 'we bring in the money & prop up poor clubs like ... (insert Melbourne club excepting Coll, Ess)'.

Or the eternal favorite 'we play so many games in Melbourne because every club wants to play us', which conveniently forgets that WC, Freo, Adel, Port, Syd & Bris ALL request a home game against the filth.

With this new fixturing of not needing to play each team by round 15, there is no reason other than crowd numbers (Collingwood playing as many matches at the MCG as possible) and the morally unfair 'blockbuster' games for a more equitable draw regarding travelling interstate.

It's either a competition for a football premiership or a money making exercise... I know what Demetriou & co have 1st preference for.

[johnpeterbudgefanclub]

What a pisser....."Perhaps someone/anyone/even one of those Collingwood trolls can make a pathetic attempt to justify this ?" Yep that's me.

Ok...explanation time. Whilst I work at nor the AFL nor Collingwood the fact is we have an arrangement with the MCG, yes an arrangement in writing that we are to play a minimum number of games at the MCG. As far as the T$lstra Dome is concerned we play 4 there, 2 =home and 2 = away. For what it's worth I couldnt care if we never played at the phone box and played those 4 games interstate.


I know a lot of fellow supporters echo my sentiments.


Oh and as far as this statement is concerned "much more likely to win". Is that because of the draw solely or because we might be half decent team now????


I rest my case.........there is no agenda.

[Mr Magic]

What a pisser....."Perhaps someone/anyone/even one of those Collingwood trolls can make a pathetic attempt to justify this ?" Yep that's me.

As far as the T$lstra Dome is concerned we play 4 there, 2 =home and 2 = away. For what it's worth I couldnt care if we never played at the phone box and played those 4 games interstate.

Budgie, i and I'm sure many have no issue with your beloved Filth having all your 11 home games at the MCG, after all it is your home ground and you're entitled to play there. Just as we are entitled to play all our home games at TD, even when we are 'lucky enough' to have a home game against you.

I have no issue with you playing your fellow tennants at the MCG on their home games.

My issue is that there are 6 interstate Clubs and you get a draw, year after year, playing only against 4 of them in away games. Why? Aren't those interstate Clubs entitled to maximize their gate receipts with a game against the travelling Filth?
Why is it only you Filth are allowed to maximize your gate receipts?

Here's an idea. Throw all gate receipts into 1 'basket' and divide it equally between the 16 participating Clubs and then we will not have a request from all Clubs for a 'home game' against the Filth. Then maybe we would have a more fair and even draw?

[Oh When the Saints]

Only problem with that Mr Magic is that the clubs with high gate receipts - e.g. Collingwood - are effectively subsidising other clubs like the Bulldogs/Melbourne, who have low gate receipts.

Ideologically, I like your idea - distribute the income equally. I love it, in fact.


But in practice, it would never be accepted by half the clubs who pull in the big crowds.


The solution to this problem is to abolish the pre-season competition and play 30 rounds of football IMO.

[fonz_#15]

i tell you what..we all need to stop bitching and moaning about what collingwood's draw looks like. Yeah we travel 6 times, so what? if our team is good enough, it doesnt matter where we play.

geelongs travelling record this year was great.

collingwood get a favourable draw because they generate shitloads of revenue, that will not change. so the same tired argument every year will not change that fact.

All that aside, the useless pricks cant win a flag anyway.

[BallBanger]

I think everyone is missing the point and the AFL/Collingwood is pulling the wool over everyones eyes if their reasoning for C'wood not travelling is because all Vic clubs want to play them....logic (something AFL/C'Wood don't have/care for) suggests if you don't travel interstate then you have to play interstate teams here in Victoria...Fact is their reasoning of "well all vic clubs want to play us" should be sending C'wood/Ess interstate more than other vic clubs to minimize playing interstate teams here in victoria....these games should be saved to play vic teams.

[BallBanger]

i tell you what..we all need to stop bitching and moaning about what collingwood's draw looks like. Yeah we travel 6 times, so what? if our team is good enough, it doesnt matter where we play.

geelongs travelling record this year was great.

collingwood get a favourable draw because they generate shitloads of revenue, that will not change. so the same tired argument every year will not change that fact.

All that aside, the useless pricks cant win a flag anyway.

Then why do Carlton get a favourable draw? surely Geelong draw more revenue than them.

[saint66au]

The AFL let Collingwood do these stadium deals at the expense of a fair draw...they should be held to account also.

I dont agree with a 30 round season, but I dont think it would be any guarantee that it would mean each team playing each other twice anyway..just an excuse for THREE Pies v Bombers games and THREE Derbies/Showdowns

[Enrico_Misso]

the fact is we have an arrangement with the MCG, yes an arrangement in writing that we are to play a minimum number of games at the MCG. As far as the T$lstra Dome is concerned we play 4 there, 2 =home and 2 = away.

So you are saying if we or Richmond or any other club sign some contract with a stadium manager to play 14, 16 18 , whatever games - then the AFL should just blindly program that into the fixture
The AFL has a responsibility to come up with a fair draw.
It is they who should be telling clubs where and when they are playing, not being dictated to by Collingwood.

: Oh and as far as this statement is concerned "much more likely to win". Is that because of the draw solely or because we might be half decent team now????

Well, even remembering that we actually beat WCE in Perth last (this) year, students of the game know that EVERY team has a worse win rate outside of their home state.
This is a self evident fact.
So hence Collingwood having TWO extra games in Melbourne compared to us will most likely benefit from this which was the whole point of this thread.

And I am still waiting for someone to explain why this is fair.

[Mr Magic]

Only problem with that Mr Magic is that the clubs with high gate receipts - e.g. Collingwood - are effectively subsidising other clubs like the Bulldogs/Melbourne, who have low gate receipts.

Ideologically, I like your idea - distribute the income equally. I love it, in fact.


But in practice, it would never be accepted by half the clubs who pull in the big crowds.

OWTS, don't give them any option.
I don't see the 7/10 consortium dictating to the AFL who they must have playing at certain times on certain days.
Why should the AFL bend over for the Filth? No single Club is big enough to dictate to the AFL.

Just 'pool' all gate receipts and then the only questions on the draw will be who gets 'home ground advantage' and who gets short travel times between games.

The Filth will accept it because they will get to keep the money from Memberships and Reserved Seating that they generate. That is their reward for being so 'strong'.
It is only the money from punters buying tickets for that particular game that will be 'pooled' for distribution.

[Enrico_Misso]

But in practice, it would never be accepted by half the clubs who pull in the big crowds.

Well let's call their bluff.

Let Collingwood, The Corporate Criminals, Essendon and Richmond form their own little league and play each other each weekend at the G till the end of time.

Whilst the other 12 clubs form a new balanced and fair national competition with a H&A season where we each play each other twice.

[Leo.J]

...I rest my case.........there is no agenda.

That is very debatable, as giving Collingwood more home games to make more money and/or to keep the MCG happy is an agenda.

Despite that it is an unfair advantage, which I don't think is debatable... its too blatantly bloody obvious, only a moron or a Collingwood supporter could not see it for what it is.

[johnpeterbudgefanclub]

All that aside, the useless pricks cant win a flag anyway.

No comment.

[johnpeterbudgefanclub]

Oh and QB is a yearly home game for the Dreamons now. Nice little revenue raiser there.....

[saint66au]

The AFL has a responsibility to come up with a fair draw.
It is they who should be telling clubs where and when they are playing, not being dictated to by Collingwood.

We have a winner

The pooling of gate reciepts has merit but would be shouted down as rampant Socialism by the "Big" Clubs. Eddie is very philanthropic about Victorian teams...but only until it costs his Maggies one red cent..then hear the screaming start. The AFL would never go for it though. THe extra money to the struggling clubs would mean they are less likely to have to sell games interstate...therefore buggering up Dimwits push to send the AFL message to the far reaches of the land.

God forbid if the kangaroos or Bulldogs could play 11 home games in Melbourne eh???

[Behind Play]

they really are the lowest of the low.... dirty filth.

Piss the f..k off budge..... you follow a team which has the the league in their pocket..

Please do not use the excuse that teams want to play us.... that only proves to me that you are nothing but whores.

[The_Dud]

its disappointing how most sports now have been corrupted by money/greed...

[Go Sretnias Go]

Collingwood have had the favoured draw for a number of years now and in fact, when the AFL set the fixtures for the year, I understand the Filth draw is done first, Essendon second, the Interstate clubs next then the computer system does the rest (forget the name of the system).

Collingwood have the largest membership of the Melbourne Clubs only because they get the favoured draw which gives them a huge advantage in marketing and exposing their brand, therefore greater access to sponserships.

The three or is it four blockbusters handed to the Filth each year, which are promoted heavily by the AFL and the media at large, thus producing big crowds and big dollars to the Filth, is also a favoured position for them and their brand.

Collingwood will just about do anything to protect their favoured position with the AFL at the expense of the other Melbourne Clubs and Geelong because it means so much to their Sponsership levels and revenue base.

I don't care what spin Eddie, Dimwit and other Filth sympathisers come up with but the AFL COMPETITION IS DOCTORED TO SATISFY A FEW and it is about time that our Club, the Hawks, the Demons, the Bulldogs, the Kangaroos, the Tigers with support from the Interstate Clubs (leave Carlscum out) force the AFL into providing a "level playing field" competition.