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Well that was Insipid

Post: # 1914780Post Sainter_Dad »

Don't get me wrong - I love the Saints - but after the last two weeks, today felt like I was dancing with my sister.

No Urgency
No Flow
No KILLER INSTINCT

We are a middle of the road team, who caught a couple of teams on the hop - there is no way this team takes us to the promised land....

St Kilda - prove me wrong!


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 17 Jul 2021 6:31pm Don't get me wrong - I love the Saints - but after the last two weeks, today felt like I was dancing with my sister.

No Urgency
No Flow
No KILLER INSTINCT

We are a middle of the road team, who caught a couple of teams on the hop - there is no way this team takes us to the promised land....

St Kilda - prove me wrong!
The promised land,close one week,miles away the next.This side has a history of failing when within touch of making it.We need to get some real hard edge personal.on and off the field.Enough soft c**k efforts


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Re: Well that was Insipid

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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 17 Jul 2021 6:31pm Don't get me wrong - I love the Saints - but after the last two weeks, today felt like I was dancing with my sister.

No Urgency
No Flow
No KILLER INSTINCT

We are a middle of the road team, who caught a couple of teams on the hop - there is no way this team takes us to the promised land....

St Kilda - prove me wrong!
Fair call mate we have a long way to go to be a genuine contender & we do have some very handy players but we need to bring a way better than what we saw today to be taken seriously IMO anyway


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Re: Well that was Insipid

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A couple of shots on goal that went the other way, and it would have been a different story.


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Otiman wrote: Sat 17 Jul 2021 9:25pm A couple of shots on goal that went the other way, and it would have been a different story.
If if if if ....the st kilda story...


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Otiman wrote: Sat 17 Jul 2021 9:25pm A couple of shots on goal that went the other way, and it would have been a different story.
They had more than us so I don't see that was a defining factor but it would have been handy if it happened unfortunately it didn't :wink:


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Teflon wrote: Sat 17 Jul 2021 9:59pm
Otiman wrote: Sat 17 Jul 2021 9:25pm A couple of shots on goal that went the other way, and it would have been a different story.
If if if if ....the st kilda story...
2009, Hawkins hits the post but goal ump calls it a goal.
2010, Milne zigs and the footy zags...


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It's a tough period during the pandemic and with a team like ours where they get told a few hours or a day before the match that they'll need to fly out straight away after the Port game, it had to have an affect on the players. It's not just about excuses or looking at adversity and saying it will make them build resilience, because I think there are genuine unique circumstances that the players haven't experienced and the uncertainty wouldn't be good.

Can you imagine if you have to tell your partner and your family that you'll be staying away for a week and it's at very short notice?

What about pets? Who looks after parents or kids or sick friends?

The other bad luck in my opinion would be the fact that we are back at Marvel after an outstanding win against Brisbane and there's no crowd to cheer on our boys...

Port didn't really have that hostile opposition crowd like we would have experienced if we'd gone over there...

Our boys certainly were flat. Maybe if they had us there to cheer them on we could have lifted them. Seems the only Victorian team with a home ground advantage is bloody Geelong!!


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Seriously? We lost because some of the players were worried about their cats? And the others couldn't play properly because no one was clapping? In that case, we REALLY deserved to lose.


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We fought the game pretty hard. Their stars were better than our stars. Can't win em all.


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We weren't insipid. We were a bit constipated with our ball movement and weren't able to slingshot out of defence too many times. When we did, we were dangerous, as they were when they did the same. It was a game of stoppages and therefore an ugly spectacle. Don't underestimate the value of Port's talls. Their ruckman is a beast and was influential in their win. Our defenders were pushed in the back numerous times by the Port forwards, too. King was pushed out of contests illegally at times and we forget that he's a skinny pup. At the other end of the ground they had a behemoth...the biggest key forward in the game who splattered his opponents


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The difference was that a few of the PA players clearly won their positions. Marshall did reasonably well, but although others got a bit of the ball, they didn't do much with it and were too slow in moving the ball on. The forwards just need to work a whole lot harder to get front position. We probably missed DMac's manic run and carry later in the match.


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No DMac, No St Kilda

He's the barometer

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Post: # 1914951Post Yorkeys »

it certainly was insipid. In important consequence games against committed opponents too many of our men simply go through the motions, look to others to show initiative and make terrible decisions. Its a pattern, unfortunately. Have to win one of those to break the spell and that's a catch 22. Must drive coaches spare. Of course we don't really get too many important consequences games and can be insipid against teams like Adelaide as well so not sure how the culture will change in foreseeable. Sides know if pressured long enough we fold. Another we 'should" have won (see also Geelong) but we wobble when we should stand firm. Skilled footballers but timid decision makers in heat.


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:D

(i just woke up from mine)

and i'm not finding things st kilda style
much betterer !!!


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true that

IF ... there was a crowd
(of saints tragics)

we possibly/probably would have carried them home


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cwrcyn wrote: Sun 18 Jul 2021 7:38am We weren't insipid. We were a bit constipated with our ball movement and weren't able to slingshot out of defence too many times. When we did, we were dangerous, as they were when they did the same. It was a game of stoppages and therefore an ugly spectacle. Don't underestimate the value of Port's talls. Their ruckman is a beast and was influential in their win. Our defenders were pushed in the back numerous times by the Port forwards, too. King was pushed out of contests illegally at times and we forget that he's a skinny pup. At the other end of the ground they had a behemoth...the biggest key forward in the game who splattered his opponents
Good post. Anyone who thinks we were insipid needs to watch it again. Both teams were out to negate the fast attacking style of the opposition and for a lot of the game it worked, a lot of stoppages. High pressure. We had more inside 50's by some margin, but the difference was Georgiades, who clunked his marks, helped by Dixon, whose main influence was getting to the contest and attracting attention from opponents. Saints did not have that in their forward line, King tried, but simply does not have the strength at the moment. He was also infringed against a number of times and not paid a free, but so was Dixon.

King, Marshall, and Membrey also did not hold onto some marks within goal scoring range that they probably should have. Membrey in particular, who usually holds on to them.


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We desperately need to recruit a key tall forward. King is mostly insipid and gives us glimpses of what he might become but until then we need a plan B.

A key tall forward just has to be our number one recruiting priority.


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Post: # 1914976Post MC Gusto »

We had them in the last and the commentators knew it. They were definitely thinking we were going to overrun them.

Connolly then pinpointed an unbelievable pass to Brad Hill out of the back pocket to hbf which opened things right up.

From there we had 4 absolutely shocking turnovers that finally ended in a goal and meant we were 7 points down again
It went Hill, Hill, Webster, Sinclair with absolutely shocking turnovers off the back line.

Lost us the match without a doubt. Unacceptable IMO


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MC Gusto wrote: Sun 18 Jul 2021 11:14am We had them in the last and the commentators knew it. They were definitely thinking we were going to overrun them.

Connolly then pinpointed an unbelievable pass to Brad Hill out of the back pocket to hbf which opened things right up.

From there we had 4 absolutely shocking turnovers that finally ended in a goal and meant we were 7 points down again
It went Hill, Hill, Webster, Sinclair with absolutely shocking turnovers off the back line.

Lost us the match without a doubt. Unacceptable IMO
So much for signing a player with elite footskills who was the cream on top- Connolly looks more likely than Hill, or anyone else to hit a teammate by foot on the chest in his few games so far.


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Post: # 1914981Post Vortex »

We lost it in the second quarter. Playing 4 quarters is still an issue for some individual players and as a team.


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Vortex wrote: Sun 18 Jul 2021 11:26am We lost it in the second quarter. Playing 4 quarters is still an issue for some individual players and as a team.
Yep, that and poor f****** kicking for goal


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And we remain Port’s bitches, for another year!

We almost never play them at Marvel and after 10 years, still can’t beat them on the odd occasion we play them on our own dung heap.


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Post: # 1915061Post Scollop »

At half time I wasn't worried with the score 3.5 to 4.6.

First ten minutes of the 3rd quarter we had 3 set shots to even the score (first from RoMa - then Dunny and then Kunty) and they all missed.

The backs and mids were working hard and these were all beautiful passages of play that ended in marks inside 50.

We were outplaying them up to this point but they had their noses in front. I think most of us thought we were still right in the game.

We had chances again in the last quarter and only really lost it in the last 2 minutes.

I don't often blame set shot kicking as a reason for losing, but I reckon that was the main reason we didn't get over the line.
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Scollop wrote: Sun 18 Jul 2021 3:07pm At half time I wasn't worried with the score 3.5 to 4.6. First five minutes of the 3rd quarter both Dunny and RoMa missed set shots to even the score

I think most of us thought we were still right in the game. We had a chance in the last quarter and only really lost it in the last 2 minutes.

I don't often blame set shot kicking as a reason for losing, but I reckon that was the main reason we didn't get over the line.
Watch the second quarter, I think that's where the game was lost.

Players going missing is still a massive issue.

Dunny's stats looked good on paper but was gifted possessions on the outside and was caught cheating often trying to get forward of the ball rather than defending. He should have had the maturity to keep his eyes on Wines more.

Not saying it was Dunny's fault we lost because we had a lot of players who weren't switched on for parts of the game.

Not putting in 4 quarters is what is costing us games.


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