Mindset of other Clubs
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10191
- Joined: Fri 16 Feb 2007 3:24pm
- Location: WARBURTON
- Has thanked: 145 times
- Been thanked: 1306 times
Mindset of other Clubs
When you know you can stretch the rules without infringing it’s far easier to defend. McKenzie giving up 12cm on King somehow did not infringe for a whole game. Constantly pushing him with both hands or just swinging round arms taking arms and at times head.
Membrey just got barreled constantly no free.
Butler dragged down chasing a loose ball into a open goal. Umpire allows it sapping scoring chances.
Our defenders play in front and make the slightest of contact and it’s a free.
How many times did Steele Jones or Crouch just get tackled to the ground before they got the ball. It’s a disgrace and clearly Fisher is part of the problem.
Membrey just got barreled constantly no free.
Butler dragged down chasing a loose ball into a open goal. Umpire allows it sapping scoring chances.
Our defenders play in front and make the slightest of contact and it’s a free.
How many times did Steele Jones or Crouch just get tackled to the ground before they got the ball. It’s a disgrace and clearly Fisher is part of the problem.
NO IFS OR BUTS HARVS IS KING OF THE AFL
- Sainter_Dad
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6316
- Joined: Thu 05 Jun 2008 1:04pm
- Has thanked: 262 times
- Been thanked: 1118 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
Whilst I don't agree that umpiring can cost the game - you should be good enough to beat the frees given against you - I do agree that it is the ones not paid that can affect a mindset - King, with the frees paid against our defenders, not only in this game but others as well, would be up there with GeorgiaDees.CURLY wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 5:35pm When you know you can stretch the rules without infringing it’s far easier to defend. McKenzie giving up 12cm on King somehow did not infringe for a whole game. Constantly pushing him with both hands or just swinging round arms taking arms and at times head.
Membrey just got barreled constantly no free.
Butler dragged down chasing a loose ball into a open goal. Umpire allows it sapping scoring chances.
Our defenders play in front and make the slightest of contact and it’s a free.
How many times did Steele Jones or Crouch just get tackled to the ground before they got the ball. It’s a disgrace and clearly Fisher is part of the problem.
“Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but stupid lasts forever.”
― Aristophanes
If you have a Bee in your Bonnet - I can assist you with that - but it WILL involve some smacking upside the head!
― Aristophanes
If you have a Bee in your Bonnet - I can assist you with that - but it WILL involve some smacking upside the head!
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1223
- Joined: Thu 22 Sep 2011 1:18pm
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 570 times
- Been thanked: 109 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
We shot ourselves in the foot Hill x 2,Butler x 1,Sinclair x 1 & Members by 1 all in the last qtr we must learn from these brain fades not the bloody umpires fault!![😡](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f621.svg)
PADDLEPOP1000
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4272
- Joined: Fri 15 Sep 2006 10:35am
- Location: earth
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 1409 times
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10598
- Joined: Tue 14 Jun 2005 7:04pm
- Location: North
- Has thanked: 1011 times
- Been thanked: 1055 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
You truly take obsession to a whole new level Curly.
What’s most telling about it is your complete and utter absence of self reflection.
It’s always, and only, that the umpires / AFL are out to get us.
Capacity to open two eyes simultaneously = zero
What’s most telling about it is your complete and utter absence of self reflection.
It’s always, and only, that the umpires / AFL are out to get us.
Capacity to open two eyes simultaneously = zero
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10191
- Joined: Fri 16 Feb 2007 3:24pm
- Location: WARBURTON
- Has thanked: 145 times
- Been thanked: 1306 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
Discuss players and game patterns as well this topic is a ongoing one. Just horrendous bias.
NO IFS OR BUTS HARVS IS KING OF THE AFL
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10598
- Joined: Tue 14 Jun 2005 7:04pm
- Location: North
- Has thanked: 1011 times
- Been thanked: 1055 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
Utter absence of self reflection - I rest my case.
- asiu
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10313
- Joined: Thu 08 Apr 2010 8:11pm
- Has thanked: 1327 times
- Been thanked: 932 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
well
thats not hard
the other clubs know that we are st kilda
and therefore , ipso facto , ALWAYS BEATABLE
what a bunch of butterboys
thats not hard
the other clubs know that we are st kilda
and therefore , ipso facto , ALWAYS BEATABLE
what a bunch of butterboys
![Image](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_iUpoNBZyaBc/R0zVk-1LCZI/AAAAAAAAAg0/9eeT7D6cnaA/s320/compass-blu-265x220.gif)
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
.tipara waranta kani nina-tu.
- asiu
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10313
- Joined: Thu 08 Apr 2010 8:11pm
- Has thanked: 1327 times
- Been thanked: 932 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
for all the would should 'n could
in the world of excuse making
its the same old same old
st kilda dont
absolute muppets
in the world of excuse making
its the same old same old
st kilda dont
absolute muppets
![Image](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_iUpoNBZyaBc/R0zVk-1LCZI/AAAAAAAAAg0/9eeT7D6cnaA/s320/compass-blu-265x220.gif)
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
.tipara waranta kani nina-tu.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10598
- Joined: Tue 14 Jun 2005 7:04pm
- Location: North
- Has thanked: 1011 times
- Been thanked: 1055 times
- Sanctorum
- Club Player
- Posts: 1895
- Joined: Sun 31 Aug 2014 10:08pm
- Has thanked: 1486 times
- Been thanked: 1024 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
I thought Trent McKenzie did a pretty good job on Max King, quite often out-positioned King to take a relieving mark - he's an experienced defender and knows how close he can play to the edge without infringing.CURLY wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 5:35pm When you know you can stretch the rules without infringing it’s far easier to defend. McKenzie giving up 12cm on King somehow did not infringe for a whole game. Constantly pushing him with both hands or just swinging round arms taking arms and at times head.
Membrey just got barreled constantly no free.
Butler dragged down chasing a loose ball into a open goal. Umpire allows it sapping scoring chances.
Our defenders play in front and make the slightest of contact and it’s a free.
How many times did Steele Jones or Crouch just get tackled to the ground before they got the ball. It’s a disgrace and clearly Fisher is part of the problem.
There's no point blaming poor umpiring, it's an inexact science, sometimes they get it wrong and it mostly cuts both ways - walk in their shoes and see how you go!
"To do good is noble. To tell others to do good is even nobler and much less trouble.."
Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) American writer and humorist
Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) American writer and humorist
- shanegrambeau
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5966
- Joined: Thu 25 Jan 2018 2:15pm
- Has thanked: 327 times
- Been thanked: 710 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
Ha!
That’s a sweet meme..it works.
You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
- shanegrambeau
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5966
- Joined: Thu 25 Jan 2018 2:15pm
- Has thanked: 327 times
- Been thanked: 710 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
Agreed..Sanctorum wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 9:16pmI thought Trent McKenzie did a pretty good job on Max King, quite often out-positioned King to take a relieving mark - he's an experienced defender and knows how close he can play to the edge without infringing.CURLY wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 5:35pm When you know you can stretch the rules without infringing it’s far easier to defend. McKenzie giving up 12cm on King somehow did not infringe for a whole game. Constantly pushing him with both hands or just swinging round arms taking arms and at times head.
Membrey just got barreled constantly no free.
Butler dragged down chasing a loose ball into a open goal. Umpire allows it sapping scoring chances.
Our defenders play in front and make the slightest of contact and it’s a free.
How many times did Steele Jones or Crouch just get tackled to the ground before they got the ball. It’s a disgrace and clearly Fisher is part of the problem.
There's no point blaming poor umpiring, it's an inexact science, sometimes they get it wrong and it mostly cuts both ways - walk in their shoes and see how you go!
Sanctorum, (which defaults to Sam Torrance on my predictive text)
You speak sense..
But we are emotionally driven..
But it calms to bruised bones, to be a realistic I suppose..
As Sainter Dad said, we are a middling team, caught a few on the hip and the slip, we are finishing the year as we thought we might…about 10-12 on the ladder.
You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
- shanegrambeau
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5966
- Joined: Thu 25 Jan 2018 2:15pm
- Has thanked: 327 times
- Been thanked: 710 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
Agreed..Sanctorum wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 9:16pmI thought Trent McKenzie did a pretty good job on Max King, quite often out-positioned King to take a relieving mark - he's an experienced defender and knows how close he can play to the edge without infringing.CURLY wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 5:35pm When you know you can stretch the rules without infringing it’s far easier to defend. McKenzie giving up 12cm on King somehow did not infringe for a whole game. Constantly pushing him with both hands or just swinging round arms taking arms and at times head.
Membrey just got barreled constantly no free.
Butler dragged down chasing a loose ball into a open goal. Umpire allows it sapping scoring chances.
Our defenders play in front and make the slightest of contact and it’s a free.
How many times did Steele Jones or Crouch just get tackled to the ground before they got the ball. It’s a disgrace and clearly Fisher is part of the problem.
There's no point blaming poor umpiring, it's an inexact science, sometimes they get it wrong and it mostly cuts both ways - walk in their shoes and see how you go!
Sanctorum, (which defaults to Sam Torrance on my predictive text)
You speak sense..
But we are emotionally driven..
But it calms to bruised bones, to be a realistic I suppose..
As Sainter Dad said, we are a middling team, caught a few on the hip and the slip, we are finishing the year as we thought we might…about 10-12 on the ladder.
You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 516
- Joined: Tue 16 Mar 2004 2:04pm
- Been thanked: 113 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
Where your theory falls apart curly, is you seem to think every other club is aware of this loophole and get dodgy frees every week against us, yet you can never acknowledge that a free should have been paid against the saints. Example being the butler ‘handball’ over his shoulder, everyone who has played or watched football knows that is a throw, but you just say pendlebury does it all the time and it’s allowed. So it is either a conspiracy against us or something that we also do but not as well?CURLY wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 5:35pm When you know you can stretch the rules without infringing it’s far easier to defend. McKenzie giving up 12cm on King somehow did not infringe for a whole game. Constantly pushing him with both hands or just swinging round arms taking arms and at times head.
Membrey just got barreled constantly no free.
Butler dragged down chasing a loose ball into a open goal. Umpire allows it sapping scoring chances.
Our defenders play in front and make the slightest of contact and it’s a free.
How many times did Steele Jones or Crouch just get tackled to the ground before they got the ball. It’s a disgrace and clearly Fisher is part of the problem.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10598
- Joined: Tue 14 Jun 2005 7:04pm
- Location: North
- Has thanked: 1011 times
- Been thanked: 1055 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
Is clinically unable to open both eyes at once.amusingname wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 10:03pmWhere your theory falls apart curly, is you seem to think every other club is aware of this loophole and get dodgy frees every week against us, yet you can never acknowledge that a free should have been paid against the saints. Example being the butler ‘handball’ over his shoulder, everyone who has played or watched football knows that is a throw, but you just say pendlebury does it all the time and it’s allowed. So it is either a conspiracy against us or something that we also do but not as well?CURLY wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 5:35pm When you know you can stretch the rules without infringing it’s far easier to defend. McKenzie giving up 12cm on King somehow did not infringe for a whole game. Constantly pushing him with both hands or just swinging round arms taking arms and at times head.
Membrey just got barreled constantly no free.
Butler dragged down chasing a loose ball into a open goal. Umpire allows it sapping scoring chances.
Our defenders play in front and make the slightest of contact and it’s a free.
How many times did Steele Jones or Crouch just get tackled to the ground before they got the ball. It’s a disgrace and clearly Fisher is part of the problem.
- SaintPav
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 18946
- Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
- Location: Alma Road
- Has thanked: 1587 times
- Been thanked: 1987 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
When has Saintsaitional ever been a forum about self reflection? Self reflection is a private endeavour.
Saintsaitional is forum for venting but some posters are just like a dog with a bone and just don’t know when to quit but he’s not the only one on here and at least he started a separate thread on it.
Does King get mauled and is he protected by the umpires?
I think it’s a fair question.
Saintsaitional is forum for venting but some posters are just like a dog with a bone and just don’t know when to quit but he’s not the only one on here and at least he started a separate thread on it.
Does King get mauled and is he protected by the umpires?
I think it’s a fair question.
Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
- The_Dud
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 13878
- Joined: Sun 27 May 2007 9:53pm
- Location: Bendigo
- Has thanked: 1313 times
- Been thanked: 2075 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
It’s interesting that last year on occasions when we had to travel on game-day certain sections on here carried on like pork chops saying it wasn’t fair and the AFL were cheating against us as it’s an unfair disadvantage that gives you almost no chance of winning, yet Port did it today pretty comfortably.
Almost like that (and this) carry on is baseless.
Almost like that (and this) carry on is baseless.
All posters are equal, but some posters are more equal than others.
- shanegrambeau
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5966
- Joined: Thu 25 Jan 2018 2:15pm
- Has thanked: 327 times
- Been thanked: 710 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
This dog is self-reflectingSaintPav wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 10:51pm When has Saintsaitional ever been a forum about self reflection? Self reflection is a private endeavour.
Saintsaitional is forum for venting but some posters are just like a dog with a bone and just don’t know when to quit but he’s not the only one on here and at least he started a separate thread on it.
Does King get mauled and is he protected by the umpires?
I think it’s a fair question.
You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10191
- Joined: Fri 16 Feb 2007 3:24pm
- Location: WARBURTON
- Has thanked: 145 times
- Been thanked: 1306 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
Didn’t say it shouldn’t have been paid a free I simply commented that they allow the old over head handball. Flicked the WB v GC game on and Bont let go a ripper. All called throw other than the umpires.amusingname wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 10:03pmWhere your theory falls apart curly, is you seem to think every other club is aware of this loophole and get dodgy frees every week against us, yet you can never acknowledge that a free should have been paid against the saints. Example being the butler ‘handball’ over his shoulder, everyone who has played or watched football knows that is a throw, but you just say pendlebury does it all the time and it’s allowed. So it is either a conspiracy against us or something that we also do but not as well?CURLY wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 5:35pm When you know you can stretch the rules without infringing it’s far easier to defend. McKenzie giving up 12cm on King somehow did not infringe for a whole game. Constantly pushing him with both hands or just swinging round arms taking arms and at times head.
Membrey just got barreled constantly no free.
Butler dragged down chasing a loose ball into a open goal. Umpire allows it sapping scoring chances.
Our defenders play in front and make the slightest of contact and it’s a free.
How many times did Steele Jones or Crouch just get tackled to the ground before they got the ball. It’s a disgrace and clearly Fisher is part of the problem.
NO IFS OR BUTS HARVS IS KING OF THE AFL
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10191
- Joined: Fri 16 Feb 2007 3:24pm
- Location: WARBURTON
- Has thanked: 145 times
- Been thanked: 1306 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
Are you comparing the two hour plus bus trip from Noosa to the Gabba to the 20 minutes from Tullamarine to Etihad?The_Dud wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 11:13pm It’s interesting that last year on occasions when we had to travel on game-day certain sections on here carried on like pork chops saying it wasn’t fair and the AFL were cheating against us as it’s an unfair disadvantage that gives you almost no chance of winning, yet Port did it today pretty comfortably.
Almost like that (and this) carry on is baseless.
NO IFS OR BUTS HARVS IS KING OF THE AFL
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 516
- Joined: Tue 16 Mar 2004 2:04pm
- Been thanked: 113 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
So that argument could be made for every free kick that you complain about being paid or not paid couldn’t it? Decisions are made by human beings and sometimes they are missed or paid in error. Where it gets frustrating in a game thread is where you point out everything you think is wrong (when the saints are penalized or disadvantaged) but rationalize anyone that goes to the saints advantage as being what other teams get so it’s fine.CURLY wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 11:25pmDidn’t say it shouldn’t have been paid a free I simply commented that they allow the old over head handball. Flicked the WB v GC game on and Bont let go a ripper. All called throw other than the umpires.amusingname wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 10:03pmWhere your theory falls apart curly, is you seem to think every other club is aware of this loophole and get dodgy frees every week against us, yet you can never acknowledge that a free should have been paid against the saints. Example being the butler ‘handball’ over his shoulder, everyone who has played or watched football knows that is a throw, but you just say pendlebury does it all the time and it’s allowed. So it is either a conspiracy against us or something that we also do but not as well?CURLY wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 5:35pm When you know you can stretch the rules without infringing it’s far easier to defend. McKenzie giving up 12cm on King somehow did not infringe for a whole game. Constantly pushing him with both hands or just swinging round arms taking arms and at times head.
Membrey just got barreled constantly no free.
Butler dragged down chasing a loose ball into a open goal. Umpire allows it sapping scoring chances.
Our defenders play in front and make the slightest of contact and it’s a free.
How many times did Steele Jones or Crouch just get tackled to the ground before they got the ball. It’s a disgrace and clearly Fisher is part of the problem.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10191
- Joined: Fri 16 Feb 2007 3:24pm
- Location: WARBURTON
- Has thanked: 145 times
- Been thanked: 1306 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
No I rationalised one decision that went our way one no other free we got away with was discussed. On the flip side two marks directly in front should have been awardees weren’t discussed. Also Butler being tackled by Alir as he ran down a loose ball 20 out was left alone.amusingname wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 11:31pmSo that argument could be made for every free kick that you complain about being paid or not paid couldn’t it? Decisions are made by human beings and sometimes they are missed or paid in error. Where it gets frustrating in a game thread is where you point out everything you think is wrong (when the saints are penalized or disadvantaged) but rationalize anyone that goes to the saints advantage as being what other teams get so it’s fine.CURLY wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 11:25pmDidn’t say it shouldn’t have been paid a free I simply commented that they allow the old over head handball. Flicked the WB v GC game on and Bont let go a ripper. All called throw other than the umpires.amusingname wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 10:03pmWhere your theory falls apart curly, is you seem to think every other club is aware of this loophole and get dodgy frees every week against us, yet you can never acknowledge that a free should have been paid against the saints. Example being the butler ‘handball’ over his shoulder, everyone who has played or watched football knows that is a throw, but you just say pendlebury does it all the time and it’s allowed. So it is either a conspiracy against us or something that we also do but not as well?CURLY wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 5:35pm When you know you can stretch the rules without infringing it’s far easier to defend. McKenzie giving up 12cm on King somehow did not infringe for a whole game. Constantly pushing him with both hands or just swinging round arms taking arms and at times head.
Membrey just got barreled constantly no free.
Butler dragged down chasing a loose ball into a open goal. Umpire allows it sapping scoring chances.
Our defenders play in front and make the slightest of contact and it’s a free.
How many times did Steele Jones or Crouch just get tackled to the ground before they got the ball. It’s a disgrace and clearly Fisher is part of the problem.
NO IFS OR BUTS HARVS IS KING OF THE AFL
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 516
- Joined: Tue 16 Mar 2004 2:04pm
- Been thanked: 113 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
Ok, clearly it is not something that has started this game and you are committed to your stance now so I am not going to bother going back and forth on this. I hope that you can actually enjoy watching footy at some point, as I can’t see how you can now (regardless of results).
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10191
- Joined: Fri 16 Feb 2007 3:24pm
- Location: WARBURTON
- Has thanked: 145 times
- Been thanked: 1306 times
Re: Mindset of other Clubs
Until we get a decent consistent run like WB I will call it out.amusingname wrote: ↑Sat 17 Jul 2021 11:45pm Ok, clearly it is not something that has started this game and you are committed to your stance now so I am not going to bother going back and forth on this. I hope that you can actually enjoy watching footy at some point, as I can’t see how you can now (regardless of results).
NO IFS OR BUTS HARVS IS KING OF THE AFL