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Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

Post: # 1882843Post skeptic »

It’s on the website

Sucks. Really sucks. Thought he made some really good progress this year and looked far more likely than most of our small forward brigade as player that could get touches in the middle and kick goals resting forward


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

Post: # 1882844Post The_Dud »

I think it's just a result of bad timing, as there are players half way through contracts who I would rather get rid of before Ed.


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

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Have to think Hawthorn will benefit from this, offering him a rookie list spot. The two brothers with huge motivation.

I agree he's unlucky. He's unlucky we erred in offering others contracts they did not / do not deserve.


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

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The_Dud wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:13am I think it's just a result of bad timing, as there are players half way through contracts who I would rather get rid of before Ed.
100% that’s it

Here’s the link
https://www.saints.com.au/news/836542/a ... ist-change


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

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He's no good and if he had a extra year that would be another year wasted for us.


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

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CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:18am He's no good and if he had a extra year that would be another year wasted for us.
And yet we gave a 3 year contract to Dan McKenzie...


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

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shrodes wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:25am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:18am He's no good and if he had a extra year that would be another year wasted for us.
And yet we gave a 3 year contract to Dan McKenzie...
Dan McKenzie is a much better player and he can't get a game.


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

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The length of DMac contract was stupid. Should have only been 2 years. Joyce also very lucky. This is the consequences.


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

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CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:29am
shrodes wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:25am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:18am He's no good and if he had a extra year that would be another year wasted for us.
And yet we gave a 3 year contract to Dan McKenzie...
Dan McKenzie is a much better player and he can't get a game.
Curly, are you related to Dan, is your name real name Barry ?


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

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Always hope.
He could be picked up as a delisted free agent, or if not, saints could rookie him if they really did not want to delist him but were forced by list numbers.


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

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I'm disappointed for him but IMO just didn't really have what it takes to be a regular player. Great athlete but don't think he had the football nous to go with it.


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

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Carlisle and Lonie have unsigned contracts on their tables.

Clavarino, Marsh and Savage may NOT have contracts on their tables.

At least one more must be delisted but could be reclaimed as rookies.


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CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:29am
shrodes wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:25am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:18am He's no good and if he had a extra year that would be another year wasted for us.
And yet we gave a 3 year contract to Dan McKenzie...
Dan McKenzie is a much better player and he can't get a game.
Tend to agree with you Curly. If I were to search back for my post from the bushfire appeal match v Hawks at Morwell in February (but I can't be tagged) I gave Phillips a pretty tough critique and didn't rate him as the standard we needed. He had his chances this season but came up short. A victim of the shrunken list.


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

Post: # 1882857Post CURLY »

Wayne42 wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:36am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:29am
shrodes wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:25am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:18am He's no good and if he had a extra year that would be another year wasted for us.
And yet we gave a 3 year contract to Dan McKenzie...
Dan McKenzie is a much better player and he can't get a game.
Curly, are you related to Dan, is your name real name Barry ?
Dan isn't great but he has more ability than Phillips. Phillips ball skills are terrible.


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

Post: # 1882861Post Beno88 »

15 games in four seasons is well below what's required to play a fifth.


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

Post: # 1882867Post SinCitySainter »

Dan Mc has finished top 10 in the BnF something Ed Phillips is simply not good enough to achieve IMO. Dan is likely to be delisted at the end of this contract as he has progressed from that top 10 finish.


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Savage being looked at by GWS , so that may well be the additional delisting which occurs.


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

Post: # 1882870Post Saintmatt »

CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 12:11pm
Wayne42 wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:36am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:29am
shrodes wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:25am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:18am He's no good and if he had a extra year that would be another year wasted for us.
And yet we gave a 3 year contract to Dan McKenzie...
Dan McKenzie is a much better player and he can't get a game.
Curly, are you related to Dan, is your name real name Barry ?
Dan isn't great but he has more ability than Phillips. Phillips ball skills are terrible.
Are you reading the tripe you're writing? You'd struggle to find another player in the entire AFL who is a worse kick than McKenzie


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

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Saintmatt wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 1:56pm
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 12:11pm
Wayne42 wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:36am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:29am
shrodes wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:25am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:18am He's no good and if he had a extra year that would be another year wasted for us.
And yet we gave a 3 year contract to Dan McKenzie...
Dan McKenzie is a much better player and he can't get a game.
Curly, are you related to Dan, is your name real name Barry ?
Dan isn't great but he has more ability than Phillips. Phillips ball skills are terrible.
Are you reading the tripe you're writing? You'd struggle to find another player in the entire AFL who is a worse kick than McKenzie

Phillips is putrid by hand and foot. McKenzie at least can play in multiple positions has pace and his good overhead.


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

Post: # 1882876Post Saintmatt »

CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 2:03pm
Saintmatt wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 1:56pm
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 12:11pm
Wayne42 wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:36am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:29am
shrodes wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:25am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:18am He's no good and if he had a extra year that would be another year wasted for us.
And yet we gave a 3 year contract to Dan McKenzie...
Dan McKenzie is a much better player and he can't get a game.
Curly, are you related to Dan, is your name real name Barry ?
Dan isn't great but he has more ability than Phillips. Phillips ball skills are terrible.
Are you reading the tripe you're writing? You'd struggle to find another player in the entire AFL who is a worse kick than McKenzie

Phillips is putrid by hand and foot. McKenzie at least can play in multiple positions has pace and his good overhead.
... who then gives it straight back to the oppo. Given both McKenzie and Phillips were both fit to play all year ... why did Phillips get picked 4 times this year and McKenzie none?


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

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Saintmatt wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 2:29pm
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 2:03pm
Saintmatt wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 1:56pm
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 12:11pm
Wayne42 wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:36am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:29am
shrodes wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:25am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:18am He's no good and if he had a extra year that would be another year wasted for us.
And yet we gave a 3 year contract to Dan McKenzie...
Dan McKenzie is a much better player and he can't get a game.
Curly, are you related to Dan, is your name real name Barry ?
Dan isn't great but he has more ability than Phillips. Phillips ball skills are terrible.
Are you reading the tripe you're writing? You'd struggle to find another player in the entire AFL who is a worse kick than McKenzie

Phillips is putrid by hand and foot. McKenzie at least can play in multiple positions has pace and his good overhead.
... who then gives it straight back to the oppo. Given both McKenzie and Phillips were both fit to play all year ... why did Phillips get picked 4 times this year and McKenzie none?
Different roles I assume.


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Post: # 1882884Post saint6709 »

I dont like posting negatively about saints players - but I would be moving Mckenenzie on and just paying his wage - we will need the $$ in two years to keep the kids together


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

Post: # 1882888Post Sanctorum »

As with all these decisions, we have to rely on the coaches and list managers to decide what is best for the club, and as much as we may have liked what few games we saw Ed Phillips play this year, they are in a far better position to make these judgments than armchair critics.

Yes he could be rookied in the event that he is not picked up by another club, time will tell....

And yes, times like this we can shake our heads and wonder why Daniel McKenzie was given another 3 years in 2019, but it would not make sense to delist him if he is still entitled to be paid to end 2022. Doubt if he's on a big pay packet....


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Re: Official - Ed Phillips not offered a contract for 2021

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CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 2:44pm
Saintmatt wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 2:29pm
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 2:03pm
Saintmatt wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 1:56pm
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 12:11pm
Wayne42 wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:36am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:29am
shrodes wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:25am
CURLY wrote: Tue 17 Nov 2020 11:18am He's no good and if he had a extra year that would be another year wasted for us.
And yet we gave a 3 year contract to Dan McKenzie...
Dan McKenzie is a much better player and he can't get a game.
Curly, are you related to Dan, is your name real name Barry ?
Dan isn't great but he has more ability than Phillips. Phillips ball skills are terrible.
Are you reading the tripe you're writing? You'd struggle to find another player in the entire AFL who is a worse kick than McKenzie

Phillips is putrid by hand and foot. McKenzie at least can play in multiple positions has pace and his good overhead.
... who then gives it straight back to the oppo. Given both McKenzie and Phillips were both fit to play all year ... why did Phillips get picked 4 times this year and McKenzie none?
Different roles I assume.
I think you are right Curly. Bad luck for Phillips, but imo McKenzie is a better player, and if Savage goes, could well be needed.

DMac is certainly capable of some clangers, and that is what supporters seem to remember, plus the day he was beaten by Cameron, which has happened to plenty of defenders. His disposal efficiency is the second highest at the club for those who average over 10 disposals, behind Wilkie. So not often straight back to the opposition. Top 10 in the B & F with only 13 games. He may yet surprise some supporters, I hope he gets a good go at it. Was emergency quite often in 2020. Has better stats than Long, who really needs to settle down a bit to avoid suspensions. DMac is facing an uphill battle, but is quite capable of replacing Long for instance. Anyway, when Geary goes, we will need someone to execute the dangerous chaos kick into our fast forward line - DMac.


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Meh


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