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What are we missing....
I’m pretty happy with the sides balance but think there’s just a few gaps for us to be genuine top 4 material. We have a shot with this side and what we do over the next few trade periods will determine if we are genuine top 4 chances or sliders back down the ladder as oppositions improve.
With Coffield Clarke Wilki Dougs even Long (who makes error but give us hardness down back) we look ok - perhaps throw in another big defender to replace tradeable Carlyle and a Geary replacement and we are good?
Yes we need 2 big arsed mids who can step through traffic and deliver the footy or J Kelly as 1 and another solid citizen coming in at 2?
Rucks we look good - just hope Paddy can hang round for a season or two more.....I never truly rated him but have been super impressed. Marshall’s a star
Wings - Hill needs to improve but does gives us run we’ve lacked for years and doesn’t waste the footy....
So for me it’s
2 gun mids - priority
Another tall defender option to replace Fake Carlyle
Another lockdown small defender to replace Geary
Perhaps a genuine goal kicking HF?
Otherwise think we look ok?
Thoughts?
With Coffield Clarke Wilki Dougs even Long (who makes error but give us hardness down back) we look ok - perhaps throw in another big defender to replace tradeable Carlyle and a Geary replacement and we are good?
Yes we need 2 big arsed mids who can step through traffic and deliver the footy or J Kelly as 1 and another solid citizen coming in at 2?
Rucks we look good - just hope Paddy can hang round for a season or two more.....I never truly rated him but have been super impressed. Marshall’s a star
Wings - Hill needs to improve but does gives us run we’ve lacked for years and doesn’t waste the footy....
So for me it’s
2 gun mids - priority
Another tall defender option to replace Fake Carlyle
Another lockdown small defender to replace Geary
Perhaps a genuine goal kicking HF?
Otherwise think we look ok?
Thoughts?
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Re: What are we missing....
Agree two mids - one outside one inside - on top of what we have and not at the expense of giving away any of our current highly rated players to get these new mids as this will only cause more gaps
Agree Carlisle will soon need replacing or at least we need another tall defender
Battle can be that goal kicking HF
Mids will have to come through either giving up picks or thru free agency
Zac Williams as an outsider classy runner thru FA would be a good start or at least he would allow Clark or Coff to play thru the middle if he plays off HB.
We are still 2 years off being a bonafide Top 4 team
Agree Carlisle will soon need replacing or at least we need another tall defender
Battle can be that goal kicking HF
Mids will have to come through either giving up picks or thru free agency
Zac Williams as an outsider classy runner thru FA would be a good start or at least he would allow Clark or Coff to play thru the middle if he plays off HB.
We are still 2 years off being a bonafide Top 4 team
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Re: What are we missing....
Well, it would be nice to have 6 top mids, but no other team has that, nor can afford it. We have 4, but two of them are injured.
Our main problem is lack of physical strength on the back line and certainty in taking a contested mark. We had 20 shots against us to our 13. That has to reverse.
Our main problem is lack of physical strength on the back line and certainty in taking a contested mark. We had 20 shots against us to our 13. That has to reverse.
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Re: What are we missing....
Definitely a quality mid & we have Austin & Clav who are supposed to be up & coming tall defenders (but to be honest don't know too much about them). Get Ben King & Josh Kelly & we are genuine Premiership material 2022 IMO anyway
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Re: What are we missing....
Just get Jye Caldwell from GWS. Young inside/outside mid from GWS out of contract. Trade our first pick this year and get it done. He’d be perfect.
Clav or Austin replaces Jake in time.
Need a good pick and cap space for Ben King at end of season 2021.
Clav or Austin replaces Jake in time.
Need a good pick and cap space for Ben King at end of season 2021.
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Re: What are we missing....
Our injured mids include a chronically injured hannerburu disaster how can you say our problems defence ?perfectionist wrote: ↑Sun 23 Aug 2020 11:33pm Well, it would be nice to have 6 top mids, but no other team has that, nor can afford it. We have 4, but two of them are injured.
Our main problem is lack of physical strength on the back line and certainty in taking a contested mark. We had 20 shots against us to our 13. That has to reverse.
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Re: What are we missing....
Agree Ben King and J Kelly and I think we are set ......I can dream ..bangaulegend wrote: ↑Sun 23 Aug 2020 11:35pm Definitely a quality mid & we have Austin & Clav who are supposed to be up & coming tall defenders (but to be honest don't know too much about them). Get Ben King & Josh Kelly & we are genuine Premiership material 2022 IMO anyway
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Re: What are we missing....
Caldwell this year
Rozee next year
Ben King to replace Carlisle the year after that
Rozee next year
Ben King to replace Carlisle the year after that
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Re: What are we missing....
We are one by midfielder short IMO
Someone at the coalface who can win ball and use it well.
Steele and Jones are right up there.
We need one more to compete with the best.
Bytel could be very good, but an elite 24-26 year old ball winner with pace and skill is on the wishlist.
Fyfe, Cripps, Dangerfield, Dusty, Hind, Parker etc are untouchable
Maybe with throw the kitchen sink at GWS gun Kelly
Or for a 10 year player, Caldwell
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Someone at the coalface who can win ball and use it well.
Steele and Jones are right up there.
We need one more to compete with the best.
Bytel could be very good, but an elite 24-26 year old ball winner with pace and skill is on the wishlist.
Fyfe, Cripps, Dangerfield, Dusty, Hind, Parker etc are untouchable
Maybe with throw the kitchen sink at GWS gun Kelly
Or for a 10 year player, Caldwell
Go for a dynasty!
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Re: What are we missing....
Yep, can’t you just imagine the impact a Rob Harvey would have with this set up!!!
Alas, there would be no Dal, no Nicky, Joey, Lenny, etc., to work with so who else is there for us to imagine?
Perhaps, it is as good as it gets right now? Gresham and Dunstan? Hanners? Yo come back, notwithstanding.....but we know...
It’s gonna be a workman like midfield with talented B graders we have to build around.
Alas, there would be no Dal, no Nicky, Joey, Lenny, etc., to work with so who else is there for us to imagine?
Perhaps, it is as good as it gets right now? Gresham and Dunstan? Hanners? Yo come back, notwithstanding.....but we know...
It’s gonna be a workman like midfield with talented B graders we have to build around.
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Re: What are we missing....
Cadwell is realistically gettable as he is coming out of contract at the end of this year - good age as well
Must keep playing Bytel
Must keep playing Bytel
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Re: What are we missing....
What we are missing is a bit of F50 smarts. We had plenty of entries but the bombs don't work against the top sides. Tweek this and we'll go long into the finals.
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Re: What are we missing....
Yes that was all that was missing as the Cats took the ball from us at centre/stoppages at will ....SaintDippa wrote: ↑Mon 24 Aug 2020 12:29am What we are missing is a bit of F50 smarts. We had plenty of entries but the bombs don't work against the top sides. Tweek this and we'll go long into the finals.
Unbelievable are people on this forum nuts??
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Re: What are we missing....
If our midfield is reliant on broken down Dan and workmanlike grade as you put it.... we better close up shop now as we will never get near a GFshanegrambeau wrote: ↑Mon 24 Aug 2020 12:17am Yep, can’t you just imagine the impact a Rob Harvey would have with this set up!!!
Alas, there would be no Dal, no Nicky, Joey, Lenny, etc., to work with so who else is there for us to imagine?
Perhaps, it is as good as it gets right now? Gresham and Dunstan? Hanners? Yo come back, notwithstanding.....but we know...
It’s gonna be a workman like midfield with talented B graders we have to build around.
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Re: What are we missing....
Didn't say we'll beat Geelong. Cats see will probably win the flag. Don't fear others in the top 8.
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Re: What are we missing....
We won’t beat top 4 when the whips crackingSaintDippa wrote: ↑Mon 24 Aug 2020 12:42am Didn't say we'll beat Geelong. Cats see will probably win the flag. Don't fear others in the top 8.
If Lions kick straight today that games over at half time
We were massively left in the game by their misses let’s face reality we are dome way off the big boys and now battling to make finals
Side has potential but we must go hard this draft and trade period to bring in some quality
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Re: What are we missing....
Lions kicked behinds but you could argue if membrey left it, Sinclair can kick 25m chest high, King holds half the marks he got two hands to and - again I'll go on about it - more thinking about F50 entries we could have been many goals up at the half.
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At one stage they had like 7 x our scoring shotsSaintDippa wrote: ↑Mon 24 Aug 2020 12:53am Lions kicked behinds but you could argue if membrey left it, Sinclair can kick 25m chest high, King holds half the marks he got two hands to and - again I'll go on about it - more thinking about F50 entries we could have been many goals up at the half.
Let’s not play IF only King (a first year colt) takes all his grabs
Lucky for us Hipworth is a goal kicking spud or we’d be down by 40 at half time and game over
We also fumbled and rushed into 50 cause they pressured us into like Cats did
We are nowhere near top 4 material that’s dreaming
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Re: What are we missing....
We had one more inside 50 - 39 to 38SaintDippa wrote: ↑Mon 24 Aug 2020 12:53am Lions kicked behinds but you could argue if membrey left it, Sinclair can kick 25m chest high, King holds half the marks he got two hands to and - again I'll go on about it - more thinking about F50 entries we could have been many goals up at the half.
But hey lets trade Billings cause he went missing for a few quarters trying to shake a hard tag
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Maybe the Bears should trade HipworthlessTeflon wrote: ↑Mon 24 Aug 2020 12:56amAt one stage they had like 7 x our scoring shotsSaintDippa wrote: ↑Mon 24 Aug 2020 12:53am Lions kicked behinds but you could argue if membrey left it, Sinclair can kick 25m chest high, King holds half the marks he got two hands to and - again I'll go on about it - more thinking about F50 entries we could have been many goals up at the half.
Let’s not play IF only King (a first year colt) takes all his grabs
Lucky for us Hipworth is a goal kicking spud or we’d be down by 40 at half time and game over
We also fumbled and rushed into 50 cause they pressured us into like Cats did
We are nowhere near top 4 material that’s dreaming
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Re: What are we missing....
Stats again!!Devilhead wrote: ↑Mon 24 Aug 2020 1:02amWe had one more inside 50 - 39 to 38SaintDippa wrote: ↑Mon 24 Aug 2020 12:53am Lions kicked behinds but you could argue if membrey left it, Sinclair can kick 25m chest high, King holds half the marks he got two hands to and - again I'll go on about it - more thinking about F50 entries we could have been many goals up at the half.
But hey lets trade Billings cause he went missing for a few quarters trying to shake a hard tag![]()
We had 1 more inside 50 so must’ve been an even contest all day cause the stats say so??
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Re: What are we missing....
Not knocking King. When he mussles up look out.
I'd argue most of our 50 entries weren't rushed. Although we need have a better strategy of long bombs to King and crumb.
Anyway we can continue this next week after we give Dees a touch up.
I'd argue most of our 50 entries weren't rushed. Although we need have a better strategy of long bombs to King and crumb.
Anyway we can continue this next week after we give Dees a touch up.
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I wouldn’t as a modern day mid he’s got J Kelly covered ...lolDevilhead wrote: ↑Mon 24 Aug 2020 1:03amMaybe the Bears should trade HipworthlessTeflon wrote: ↑Mon 24 Aug 2020 12:56amAt one stage they had like 7 x our scoring shotsSaintDippa wrote: ↑Mon 24 Aug 2020 12:53am Lions kicked behinds but you could argue if membrey left it, Sinclair can kick 25m chest high, King holds half the marks he got two hands to and - again I'll go on about it - more thinking about F50 entries we could have been many goals up at the half.
Let’s not play IF only King (a first year colt) takes all his grabs
Lucky for us Hipworth is a goal kicking spud or we’d be down by 40 at half time and game over
We also fumbled and rushed into 50 cause they pressured us into like Cats did
We are nowhere near top 4 material that’s dreaming
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Re: What are we missing....
Our entries into forward 50 especially in first half were ordinary we’ve actually bombed away a bit all year - it looks good when smalls kick crumbing goals but when they get shutdown aka Cats we struggleSaintDippa wrote: ↑Mon 24 Aug 2020 1:08am Not knocking King. When he mussles up look out.
I'd argue most of our 50 entries weren't rushed. Although we need have a better strategy of long bombs to King and crumb.
Anyway we can continue this next week after we give Dees a touch up.
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