Okay, maybe “superstar” is a too strong. But, if Shiel is supposed to be one of the best mids in the comp and he’s accepting $900,000 pa, then $800,0000 pa is still star player money.stonecold wrote: ↑Fri 12 Oct 2018 10:47amSuperstar Money?????SydneySainter wrote: ↑Fri 12 Oct 2018 10:44amGood get in terms of trading. The fact that we’re paying him superstar money is a big risk though.
Hopefully he adds what everyone is saying he’ll add.
That's about $1-$1.5mill per year, he's not even close to that!!!!!
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That's better'ish, Shiel is not playing an on field coaching role though either, you need to understand, it's not just about 'playing' when it comes to Dan and what he brings!!!!!SydneySainter wrote: ↑Fri 12 Oct 2018 10:55amOkay, maybe “superstar” is a too strong. But, if Shiel is supposed to be one of the best mids in the comp and he’s accepting $900,000 pa, then $800,0000 pa is still star player money.stonecold wrote: ↑Fri 12 Oct 2018 10:47amSuperstar Money?????SydneySainter wrote: ↑Fri 12 Oct 2018 10:44amGood get in terms of trading. The fact that we’re paying him superstar money is a big risk though.
Hopefully he adds what everyone is saying he’ll add.
That's about $1-$1.5mill per year, he's not even close to that!!!!!
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One of the things we truely lack is leadership. Hopefully Hanners can bring that aspect and the deal will be worth it. Assuming that our medical department can keep him on the park.
Will we ever keep a second round pick in the next year. Always seem to be trading them out.
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Excellent deal in the end. Well actually better than excellent. Dan Hannebery and pick #28 for pick #39 and 2019 second round pick (St Kilda).
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While I thought our trade for Hickey was a bit unders (mainly due the extra picks), it was what was required to gain Hannebery.
The deal is a little like where the Hawks paid overs to us (though the Hickey deal was not as unders as the pick swap was with the Hawks by a big margin) , but then got unders to gain JOM but the deal with us got the pick to satisfy the Suns.
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While I thought our trade for Hickey was a bit unders (mainly due the extra picks), it was what was required to gain Hannebery.
The deal is a little like where the Hawks paid overs to us (though the Hickey deal was not as unders as the pick swap was with the Hawks by a big margin) , but then got unders to gain JOM but the deal with us got the pick to satisfy the Suns.
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StoneCold is right. This is about a lot more than playing. He’ll have a good pre-season and get his body right. But just as important, after Roo and joey retired we got left with a bunch of kids. There isn’t enough in the way of seniority. There was no one to intimidate the younger players. By intimidate I mean a player of such stature that the others are scared not to put in 110% at training and on game day. Hanners will be that player. That’s all he knows from Sydney and our players know that. And even at Sydney he apparently stood out as a real driving force behind their work ethic and ruthlessness. This is a very good deal. If we could add Scully in addition to Pick 4 then I think the trade period will have exceeded our expectations,
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Dan's only costing us an extra 200 grand a year as Hickey was on 600 grand I believe.
We still have a massive salary gap space.
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Be a real worry to all supporters of the saints football club that the players may not be putting in 100% at training let alone game day. That is not on and how has it been allowed to get that way if that is actually what has happened? Is Hannebery going to fix that is he?
This will be a good deal if Hannebery can average 25 good quality possessions most of which should end up going to the 50m forward arc or beyond, that is what he should be getting paid for. Steven wont get any better, Steele is still an educated tagger and most posters on here reckons Ross cant cut it. So where is the major improvement going to come from?
Expectations seem to be very low, alarmingly low. I would think the expectations to be what North Melbourne have got or what Essendon has been building up to, that is what we should have aimed for. If pick 28 secures a good player, it gets better. Scully coming to the saints or could be!! even better but is that true? He has not even been officially linked to St Kilda to my knowledge. If, If, If
This will be a good deal if Hannebery can average 25 good quality possessions most of which should end up going to the 50m forward arc or beyond, that is what he should be getting paid for. Steven wont get any better, Steele is still an educated tagger and most posters on here reckons Ross cant cut it. So where is the major improvement going to come from?
Expectations seem to be very low, alarmingly low. I would think the expectations to be what North Melbourne have got or what Essendon has been building up to, that is what we should have aimed for. If pick 28 secures a good player, it gets better. Scully coming to the saints or could be!! even better but is that true? He has not even been officially linked to St Kilda to my knowledge. If, If, If
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You're consistent. Trollchico2001 wrote: ↑Fri 12 Oct 2018 12:19pm Be a real worry to all supporters of the saints football club that the players may not be putting in 100% at training let alone game day. That is not on and how has it been allowed to get that way if that is actually what has happened? Is Hannebery going to fix that is he?
This will be a good deal if Hannebery can average 25 good quality possessions most of which should end up going to the 50m forward arc or beyond, that is what he should be getting paid for. Steven wont get any better, Steele is still an educated tagger and most posters on here reckons Ross cant cut it. So where is the major improvement going to come from?
Expectations seem to be very low, alarmingly low. I would think the expectations to be what North Melbourne have got or what Essendon has been building up to, that is what we should have aimed for. If pick 28 secures a good player, it gets better. Scully coming to the saints or could be!! even better but is that true? He has not even been officially linked to St Kilda to my knowledge. If, If, If
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Whether Hannebery ends up being a gun or a dud matters a lot less now.
This had all the hallmarks of being a St Kilda get bent over trade and it has turned out positively.
We have heaps of cap space and Swans need to dump salary.
We dumped an average ruck and secured a former gun mid who may play some good footy but hopefully also brings leadership.
Haven't been excited by the recruitment but the trading is almost as if we have picked him as a free agent.
Well worth the risk with that outcome, I was concerned early it would be a future 2nd rounder stand alone or a down grade of our pick #4 to Swans first rounder.
This had all the hallmarks of being a St Kilda get bent over trade and it has turned out positively.
We have heaps of cap space and Swans need to dump salary.
We dumped an average ruck and secured a former gun mid who may play some good footy but hopefully also brings leadership.
Haven't been excited by the recruitment but the trading is almost as if we have picked him as a free agent.
Well worth the risk with that outcome, I was concerned early it would be a future 2nd rounder stand alone or a down grade of our pick #4 to Swans first rounder.
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On the money again Teddysainter.....keep up the good worktedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: ↑Wed 10 Oct 2018 8:35pm Only hearing 2nd rounder. Maybe Hickey's pick or future 2nd rounder? I think thats fair.
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Bloody good deal. He will be the pseudo captain of the club. Geary should be grateful he has someone that can back him up. I'm sure training standards will go through the roof.
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Absolutely and now with Billy Slater on board as well I wouldn't be surprised to see us coming out breathing fire next year. We'll be a much fitter and well drilled team next year. Im starting to get a little bit excited...just a little.magnifisaint wrote: ↑Fri 12 Oct 2018 1:02pm Bloody good deal. He will be the pseudo captain of the club. Geary should be grateful he has someone that can back him up. I'm sure training standards will go through the roof.
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Don't you worry about that ...<edited by mods>derby Street wrote: ↑Fri 12 Oct 2018 12:33pmYou're consistent. Trollchico2001 wrote: ↑Fri 12 Oct 2018 12:19pm Be a real worry to all supporters of the saints football club that the players may not be putting in 100% at training let alone game day. That is not on and how has it been allowed to get that way if that is actually what has happened? Is Hannebery going to fix that is he?
This will be a good deal if Hannebery can average 25 good quality possessions most of which should end up going to the 50m forward arc or beyond, that is what he should be getting paid for. Steven wont get any better, Steele is still an educated tagger and most posters on here reckons Ross cant cut it. So where is the major improvement going to come from?
Expectations seem to be very low, alarmingly low. I would think the expectations to be what North Melbourne have got or what Essendon has been building up to, that is what we should have aimed for. If pick 28 secures a good player, it gets better. Scully coming to the saints or could be!! even better but is that true? He has not even been officially linked to St Kilda to my knowledge. If, If, If
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Yep, great deal getting pick 28 thrown in, clearly we’ll be paying all his salary now.stkfc1 wrote: ↑Fri 12 Oct 2018 1:35pmAbsolutely and now with Billy Slater on board as well I wouldn't be surprised to see us coming out breathing fire next year. We'll be a much fitter and well drilled team next year. Im starting to get a little bit excited...just a little.magnifisaint wrote: ↑Fri 12 Oct 2018 1:02pm Bloody good deal. He will be the pseudo captain of the club. Geary should be grateful he has someone that can back him up. I'm sure training standards will go through the roof.
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Wrong again , that's Carrrrllton. You are known as the filth.chico2001 wrote: ↑Fri 12 Oct 2018 1:43pmDon't you worry about that ...you piece of scumderby Street wrote: ↑Fri 12 Oct 2018 12:33pmYou're consistent. Trollchico2001 wrote: ↑Fri 12 Oct 2018 12:19pm Be a real worry to all supporters of the saints football club that the players may not be putting in 100% at training let alone game day. That is not on and how has it been allowed to get that way if that is actually what has happened? Is Hannebery going to fix that is he?
This will be a good deal if Hannebery can average 25 good quality possessions most of which should end up going to the 50m forward arc or beyond, that is what he should be getting paid for. Steven wont get any better, Steele is still an educated tagger and most posters on here reckons Ross cant cut it. So where is the major improvement going to come from?
Expectations seem to be very low, alarmingly low. I would think the expectations to be what North Melbourne have got or what Essendon has been building up to, that is what we should have aimed for. If pick 28 secures a good player, it gets better. Scully coming to the saints or could be!! even better but is that true? He has not even been officially linked to St Kilda to my knowledge. If, If, If
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I was wrong.. great deal and get.. credit where it’s due! Fantastic deal
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Love Dan already.
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I'm happy to admit I was lukewarm about Hannebery mainly due to his banged up body and dramatic loss of form in 2018.
However, now that he is a St Kilda player I will extend a very warm welcome, wish him well and offer my support and encouragement. The same goes for Dean Kent.
And while I have doubts about Hannebery's ability to play like the bull midfielder of a couple of seasons ago, Dan the man will bring some much needed professionalism to the playing group in terms of the way he goes about it. A bit like Sean Dempster in that respect.
Hannebery was at a yoga retreat when told he was now a St Kilda player. That is impressive in itself. While others are taking holidays, Hannebery is trying to get his body right for the pre season.
You have to admire that. Let's hope he can make a big difference in partnership with Seb, Jack and the man of Steele.
However, now that he is a St Kilda player I will extend a very warm welcome, wish him well and offer my support and encouragement. The same goes for Dean Kent.
And while I have doubts about Hannebery's ability to play like the bull midfielder of a couple of seasons ago, Dan the man will bring some much needed professionalism to the playing group in terms of the way he goes about it. A bit like Sean Dempster in that respect.
Hannebery was at a yoga retreat when told he was now a St Kilda player. That is impressive in itself. While others are taking holidays, Hannebery is trying to get his body right for the pre season.
You have to admire that. Let's hope he can make a big difference in partnership with Seb, Jack and the man of Steele.