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Re: Saucy Lyon
Wow!
Hopefully we can do well out of it and get a win on Saturday night.
Hopefully we can do well out of it and get a win on Saturday night.
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His coaching was a small part of the reasons we had some success in 2009/2010. His influence on team selection and list management and his game plan were the main reasons we lost those Grand Finals. I was sick and tired of his excuses and his failures.
Seriously, this is fuuucked. I want the priiick to keep coaching so his win loss record more accurately reflects his coaching ability.
Seriously, this is fuuucked. I want the priiick to keep coaching so his win loss record more accurately reflects his coaching ability.
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Freo set to hold a press conference at 2.30 EST with Lyin.
Bet they are standing him down and the pricks will then come out and thrash us on Saturday night.
Bet they are standing him down and the pricks will then come out and thrash us on Saturday night.
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Plus one!saynta wrote:Two things I do know,
1. Tosser self reported his comments to management
2. 12 member board including 4 women are all supporting Tosser.
As I said I don't like the guy and don't know what was said but the guy ain't a sleaze IMHO.
This is what that ugly fat guy with a comb over in the white house would call fake news.
Am not happy with the deceitful way that Ro$$y walked out on the club that gave him his big chance, launched his budding career, and basically... made his name.
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I also think that his refusal to admit that he is the person at the centre of all this is pathetic.
That it took RoSSy till after the investigation to apologise to her is pathetic.
But...
Although IMHO the whole article is 'hazily written', the implication to me is that the 'other unidentified Purple Puke staff' are the biggest culprits of all, and should probably be the first to go. I reckon there's one hellova' lot of ducking and weaving going on here. Hopefully they get nailed.... Lyon reportedly apologised to the woman after the investigation was concluded. It is unclear if any further action was taken by the club.
One of the most eye-catching claims in the report alleges the woman continued to feel harassed and singled out by other unidentified Purple Puke staff following Lyon’s apology, prompting her resignation.
It is only then that the woman reportedly made a second complaint, prompting the AFL integrity unit’s own investigation.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/ross-l ... 6b88b7104a
Will also be interesting to see what those moral guardians and two of St Kilda's greatest friends in the media (i.e.; venom girl, and that bandana bloke) have to say about all this. As far as I know, 'surprisingly', to date it's been 'crickets'...
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Again another article today referring to Lyon as ex-St Kilda coach - why the need to link our club to this grubby affair??
Club should put in a complaint![Evil or Very Mad :evil:](./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif)
Club should put in a complaint
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https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/05/11/ ... s-silence/
“It’s a really difficult situation but at no stage have I questioned my coaching and commitment to this club.”
Wtf does that mean? Can someone interpret
Does that mean that maybe some people might think I am a knob and made an inappropriate comment or two, but that doesn't interfere with my coaching.
Or mabe; I am a sleazeball, but I am committed to the footy department.
What about when Lyon says; “I hold no fears. This is important as I’ve built a strong reputation over 22 years of coaching in the AFL that I am proud of and I will continue to protect it."
Maybe; I am committed to seeing out my contract and there's no way the club can back away from paying me out in full. Does it also highlight that no matter what he is responsible for he doesn't want to accept that he may be at fault.
Just like in both of the Saints GF losses he did not accept that he could have done anything differently. It was the bounce and the players bad kicking, that's all!!
“It’s a really difficult situation but at no stage have I questioned my coaching and commitment to this club.”
Wtf does that mean? Can someone interpret
Does that mean that maybe some people might think I am a knob and made an inappropriate comment or two, but that doesn't interfere with my coaching.
Or mabe; I am a sleazeball, but I am committed to the footy department.
What about when Lyon says; “I hold no fears. This is important as I’ve built a strong reputation over 22 years of coaching in the AFL that I am proud of and I will continue to protect it."
Maybe; I am committed to seeing out my contract and there's no way the club can back away from paying me out in full. Does it also highlight that no matter what he is responsible for he doesn't want to accept that he may be at fault.
Just like in both of the Saints GF losses he did not accept that he could have done anything differently. It was the bounce and the players bad kicking, that's all!!
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Yes, +1!!!!!saynta wrote:Good points.
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
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Re: Saucy Lyon
A second report in addition to a big pay out but the moral compasses assure us that Lyon is not a sleaze... seems pretty reasonable to suggest that the women are pbly to blame
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Re: Saucy Lyon
How would you know?
Lyon is old school. He was probably pissed and probably made an inappropriate remark.
It's called banter!!!
Not a hangable offence but in this day and age...
Lyon is old school. He was probably pissed and probably made an inappropriate remark.
It's called banter!!!
Not a hangable offence but in this day and age...
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He just said what we’re all thinking.
We’re all animals.
We’re all animals.
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I reckon he could be another big loss away from getting the arse.
One could say that it would be some sort of footy karma if that happened the week after a loss to the Saints.
One could.
One could say that it would be some sort of footy karma if that happened the week after a loss to the Saints.
One could.
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What a ridiculous and worthless press conference by Freo. What a disgrace really. No wonder everyone is asking WTF? Some clubs really don't care how they get results in the end.
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In this PC world you can’t do that anymore. It’s just reality.SaintPav wrote:He just said what we’re all thinking.
We’re all animals.
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Re: Saucy Lyon
i just wanna say
u can ... but one has to be a little smooth about it
the days of hittn em on the head and draggn em home passed
slurring out , ya coming for a root ? have passed
believing in treat em mean to keep em keen was suicidal behaviour
idiots
they're sittn on a fortune
n they know it
class things up a tad
they love a laugh n bit of discreet admiration
(a bit of stammer stutter n blush is a workable tactic)
humble up a bit
your not Gods Gift to the Vagina
they have Sisters for that
its not the pc world that the real problem
its the trogs from the swamp tryn to win a Princess
kiddn yourselves
u can ... but one has to be a little smooth about it
the days of hittn em on the head and draggn em home passed
slurring out , ya coming for a root ? have passed
believing in treat em mean to keep em keen was suicidal behaviour
idiots
they're sittn on a fortune
n they know it
class things up a tad
they love a laugh n bit of discreet admiration
(a bit of stammer stutter n blush is a workable tactic)
humble up a bit
your not Gods Gift to the Vagina
they have Sisters for that
its not the pc world that the real problem
its the trogs from the swamp tryn to win a Princess
kiddn yourselves
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I just laugh at this forum sometimes...
Some years ago the morality police here said I was victim blaming and sexist by suggesting that it wasn't safe in this day and age for women to walk home alone at night when discussing that tragedy in Brunswick...
Now we have RL reportedly making inappropriate comments on at least 2 occasions, one of which has resulted in a 6 figure payout and people are seriously suggesting, without the facts I should add, that the problem is the victim's are too sensitive.
Yeeeeeesh
Some years ago the morality police here said I was victim blaming and sexist by suggesting that it wasn't safe in this day and age for women to walk home alone at night when discussing that tragedy in Brunswick...
Now we have RL reportedly making inappropriate comments on at least 2 occasions, one of which has resulted in a 6 figure payout and people are seriously suggesting, without the facts I should add, that the problem is the victim's are too sensitive.
Yeeeeeesh
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By the same posters though, pettle?skeptic wrote:I just laugh at this forum sometimes...
Some years ago the morality police here said I was victim blaming and sexist by suggesting that it wasn't safe in this day and age for women to walk home alone at night when discussing that tragedy in Brunswick...
Now we have RL reportedly making inappropriate comments on at least 2 occasions, one of which has resulted in a 6 figure payout and people are seriously suggesting, without the facts I should add, that the problem is the victim's are too sensitive.
Yeeeeeesh
Ross Slimeon made an innapropriate remark but like you said, no one has the facts.
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Re: Saucy Lyon
god the ease with which the media push emotional triggers nowadays.
lyon made a few innappropriate sexist remarks to a fellow employee when he was drunk. years ago. it was amicably settled until the media saw a way to sell a story.
the latest incident was an aggrieved male employee who doesn't want to take it further. likely just someone a bit fragile that ross gave a scalding to.
people think this is worthy of losing his job?!half the world would be unemployed if this was applied evenly across all work environments. i've read far worse on here at times insulting genders, races, ideologies, religions, and individuals.
stone houses and all. some of us should check our emotions and think a bit. a bloke acts an arsehole there is a natural consequence. we all know he is an arsehole. happens too often bridges get burned. too equate this behavior with the brutal rape and murder of a woman is emotive claptrap. keep it real.
lyon made a few innappropriate sexist remarks to a fellow employee when he was drunk. years ago. it was amicably settled until the media saw a way to sell a story.
the latest incident was an aggrieved male employee who doesn't want to take it further. likely just someone a bit fragile that ross gave a scalding to.
people think this is worthy of losing his job?!half the world would be unemployed if this was applied evenly across all work environments. i've read far worse on here at times insulting genders, races, ideologies, religions, and individuals.
stone houses and all. some of us should check our emotions and think a bit. a bloke acts an arsehole there is a natural consequence. we all know he is an arsehole. happens too often bridges get burned. too equate this behavior with the brutal rape and murder of a woman is emotive claptrap. keep it real.
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There's supposed to be more to come... audio evidence of what was said and video of him following her around all night It wasn't just a couple of off the cuff comments... time will tell.
The lady concerned is pissed off that the club and AFL have tried to turn things around by saying she went home after work and dressed more provocatively.. that Lion fessed up self reported and apologized Her contacts claim apparently he apologized after her second reporting of the incident when the club took no action and was then targeted by the club to make life unpleasant enough for her to leave ....apparently
The lady concerned is pissed off that the club and AFL have tried to turn things around by saying she went home after work and dressed more provocatively.. that Lion fessed up self reported and apologized Her contacts claim apparently he apologized after her second reporting of the incident when the club took no action and was then targeted by the club to make life unpleasant enough for her to leave ....apparently
And the president said " I did not have sex with that woman"
And our former president said " Football is like golf"
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desertsaint wrote:. too equate this behavior with the brutal rape and murder of a woman is emotive claptrap. keep it real.
This.
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Be serious DS, I hardly did that or drew comparisons with RL and that. My comment was more a reflection on particular formumite attitudes based on a previous discussion... one in particular in this thread that appears to have changed their tune rather markedkydesertsaint wrote:too equate this behavior with the brutal rape and murder of a woman is emotive claptrap. keep it real.
My issue here is that based on very little evidence, ppl seem comfortable enough to dismiss the complaint and attribute it more to there being something wrong with or about the complaintent and that RL was just being a bloke. That attitude smells wrong to me. End of the day I have no idea what was or wasn’t done... what I know is that there’s been a large payout which suggests that there is at least a perception that this is bigger then just needing an apology... and I don’t understand why ppl are so quick to dismiss it